Do the red pill tactics even work with women who know about them ? Wouldn't those women be like : "Aha,now he's using dread game" , or "wait , that was a neg , wasn't it?" or "aww , now he treats me like a child because he read it on reddit, isn't it cute ?" or "hey look at him acting all alpha male".

Doesn't it kinda ruin the whole thing ? Also , doesn't being so calculating in your moves basically destroy the romance ?