I am truly fascinated by a females natural ability to create an assemblage of orbiters, betas and alphas to tend to her different "needs".

p3ndulum · 2015-02-10T21:21:24+00:00

Men evolved to manipulate the environment. Women evolved to manipulate men.

2comment · 2015-02-11T00:35:59+00:00

The way most men act these days makes me cringe. Everyone thinks they are the only nice guy in the world when nice guys grow on trees. Especially the emphasis on not being a douche or asshole, basically not being the blade of grass sticking out, will promote even more of this shit.

Long story short, if you ain't getting something out of a relationship or are not happy with what you're getting, renegotiate. If that doesn't work, drop it for greener pastures.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-02-11T01:26:43+00:00

There is this girl over at facebook, she always posts selfies and compares herself to queens etc. What I noticed the other day, when I would comment on my guy friend's post, she would show up, comment on the post, and then her orbiters would flock to the same post and shower her with praise and likes. It's like, wherever she goes, there is an entourage of betas sucking her ass and loving it.

the_red_scimitar · 2015-02-11T01:23:08+00:00

Yeah, you wanna see beta orbiters? Check out who always "likes" everything cute girl X ever posts on FB. And if they are serious orbiters, they will always find a way to add a compliment.

IllimitableMan · 2015-02-10T21:48:11+00:00

Often times the female is very clear they don't want to be "the girlfriend" but the beta figures as long as he has her attention he can win her over. Its easy to be angry and blame females for a male fantasy.

In his defense, why wouldn't he think its a good strategy? It works in the movies.

RunawayGrain · 2015-02-10T22:03:16+00:00

Usually the girls that have clouds of guys around them in high school fade fast though. They know this on an uncoscious level, that's why she's keeping number four around.

He even took her on a full fledged highschool prom experience. Guess how she repaid him prom night? She fucked a alpha she met, in a bathroom.

Good on you for getting that toxin out of your life.

occupythekitchen · 2015-02-10T23:37:40+00:00

Personally, I like orbiters. They serve a useful purpose by setting the bar low and making it easier for the rest of us.

fap_the_pain_away · 2015-02-11T04:53:34+00:00

Don't forget the worst beta role ever: the BODYGUARD orbiter. He will fight guys and endanger his own life just for a chance* at some pussy. Sometimes it's not even for her defense, but her amusement. Sometimes they don't even KNOW her, and it's 100% white knighting. ("Hey, is this guy bothering you?")

*Admittedly, this type of orbiter does enjoy some higher success rates.

zephyrprime · 2015-02-11T16:55:02+00:00

It is indeed interesting that girls tend to naturally use these guys for such specific and highly differentiated reasons. However, it's pretty easy for a girl to assemble a group of guys like this. Guys are just naturally attracted to pretty girls so they will associate with such girls of their own volition without the girl having to have to do anything.

This was a good report though because it was so detailed. It specified exactly what the role of the different guys was.

"There wasn't a competition between us at all." - yes, this is definitely the worst part. Being in a competition isn't so bad. Sure, I would rather just win easily but in real life, you expect to have to compete for the elite things - the elite college, the elite jobs, etc. However, the truth is you were just used in this situation and so were the other guys which you now realize. I've been there too. It actually a small emotional and relationship betrayal. Your whole relationship was a lie and she never really liked you. She just was using you for her own ends and you never had a shot.

Yes, women learn the manipulation naturally. It is never taught by society or school. Even the stuff you see on tv is nothing compared with reality. TV and film don't do well at conveying subtlety so whenever they show manipulation, it's really obvious and blunt. It would never work in real life where subtlety is required. Also, any character that did that would immediately earn the enmity of the audience. In reality, all girls do it who can get away with it. The pretty girls do it and the ugly girls turn into feminists and manipulate men less directly in that way.

Wolf_A · 2015-02-10T21:46:51+00:00

It just blows my mind how females do this and betas just let it happen.

Beta orbiters to a female are equivalent to plates of a male. Except the former is more cringe worthy.

leftajar · 2015-02-11T18:23:33+00:00

Only physical escalation can save you from false interest.

Girls will flirt 'til they're blue in the face, but if you want to force her hand (no pun intended), put your hand on her hip and leave it there for a few seconds. Her reaction will tell you everything.

IllimitableMan · 2015-02-10T22:31:33+00:00

They create an "interest" from these guys, a sense of hope. They convince them that it's possible. These relationships work in an emotional level. Females love attention. An it's an ego boost to know that they are desired by so many males.

She was doing this: http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-27-play-on-peoples-need-to-believe.html

Also check law 27 from the 48 laws superthread on the sidebar.

sigmayogi · 2015-02-11T23:02:12+00:00

After swallowing the pill and have it take effect in last 6 months, seeing it in action consciously, I've become fairly disgusted with the female species as a result. Maybe its just a passing stage.

What you describe is exactly the behaviors I've observed and am repulsed by - now that the goggles are off. Its vomit inducing. I am tall, really good looking, smart, healthy with good life and income. I can't even bring myself to feel compassion to most used up women because given the same choice in sexual selection I would be extremely selective. I have had many opportunities for sex I've passed on because I felt monogamy with the right person is key, starting in high school, where at the time I thought casual sex was dirty and saw a parade of willing females offering themselves. They repulsed me then. None of it of course compares to the parade of willing cocks an average vagina owner experiences in her life.

I can see direct effect RP mindset has brought so far. I treat women like I treat everyone else now. If you take away their vaginal benefits (which exist in the mind only) there is usually not much left to admire. Just entitled, bratty, dumb consumer that experiences the world through fleeting vapid emotions. 99% of the time there is nothing but a total generic human animal with addict like dependency on their feelz.

Here is the weird part. I never cared about or respected the female species less than now, and I am getting the most attention from them than ever before.. Its a parade of kino, flirting, playing with their hair, stares when I am not looking and when I am. And it doesn't make me appreciate them any more.

I am in a long LTR, and the effects of RP are seen at home too. She warships me now, is scared to lose me, etc etc. I talk openly to her about her biology and have almost completely eliminated hysterics and nagging, keeping shit-tests becuse they are fun. She is the 1% of highly intelligent females and is fascinated by this topic.

Not sure where all this leads, for both myself and for the species in general. I can't nor do I want to exactly untake the pill, but it is a little unsettling seeing all this societal conditioning go exposing the ugly truth.

Cyralea · 2015-02-11T02:57:53+00:00

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Makati-Kills · 2015-02-11T14:25:09+00:00

Interesting that the average woman has thousands of Facebook friends.

So while there are IRL orbiters, they now have an international pool of real time worker bees... salivating to provide any service possible, from ego stoking to tax return help...

men are truly cattle..

TurduckenII · 2015-02-11T16:49:07+00:00

Reminds me of this, "But If We Started Dating It Would Ruin Our Friendship Where I Ask You To Do Things And You Do Them"

Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth · 2015-02-11T01:45:23+00:00

You just give me a flashback to a point where I think I was in your shoes. Although 6 months after High School, I was working and going to Community College Full Time and she went off to a northern New Your private college.

I gave the orbiters a nickname, the "Girl's Name Changed Fan Club".

Saw her at a bar like 4 years later when I was on leave from the service during New Years, she had a table with THREE other dudes all vying for her attention. I said, "Hi" and engaged in minimal small talk, but concentrated on the crew I was with and had a great night.

One of the other orbiters, rich, good looking dude from a Prep School, I think, was actually cool. We ran into each other a couple times via mutual friends and he was working on other chicks, so he was not a full Beta.

Here I am 15 years later, and it turns out she did this shit with two other good friends over the time period of like 10 years. One guy has money, the other lives in Hawaii.

Females can be just diabolical sometimes.

Cyralea · 2015-02-11T03:49:49+00:00

I sometimes wonder if women are necessarily even AWARE that they're creating their own "soft harem" of betas. It's usually so ingrained in them that I feel like they do it just because they know how. It's not always malicious but the results are the same.

A fascinating creature, the human female.

Slothlemur · 2015-02-10T22:08:07+00:00

Patrice from Black Phillip once said "women use us for our time" (and our wallets), but can't use us the way a guy will use her (for sex). It goes back to what IllimitableMan said about how betas become the plates. It seems easy to fall into the friendzone trap, but it's never fun. My last friendzone experience was when I was 17. The pain of that blue-pill failure on my part, helped open my eyes to how i gave my time to women. The only real female friends i have, are the ones i don't wanna fuck. It's sad that it has 2 be that way, but that's how it is lol

Murcus · 2015-02-11T00:09:52+00:00

This must be why some of my Tinder matches have the Line "Not looking for a hookup, just looking for guy friends".

Just checked one of them to try and get the wording right, and that line has disappeared from her profile...

Or the classic text message I got last night "...honestly, I'm on Tinder to make guy friends. I don't have the time for a relationship, I just wanna make friends outside of grad school. And I don't do FWB. Just so we're clear."
Sigh.

beastmoderage · 2015-02-11T01:37:06+00:00

Guess how she repaid him prom night? She fucked a alpha she met, in a bathroom.

Gotta give that dude his fucking props. Unlike the betas in the story, he knows how to get what he wants

RedTheFuckUp · 2015-02-11T05:46:11+00:00

I like your thought but don't we do the same exact thing with plates? I have a girl or two to fuck, girls to have fun with, a girl to have an emotional release. What's the difference?

furtardo · 2015-02-11T02:29:48+00:00

Don't blame women.. If a guy allows himself to be manipulated, he will be manipulated.

dabrah1 · 2015-02-10T22:43:45+00:00

It is an interesting phenomenon . At the end of the day you just need to realize why you became an orbiter , and what you need to do to ensure you never become one again.

NightwingTRP · 2015-02-11T11:56:40+00:00

This was a fascinating read. Do any other guys have observations/stories similar to this? I haven't spotted any from a skim of the comments.

KinYamaKen · 2015-02-11T21:08:23+00:00

Hey OP, you didn't happen to go to high school in Texas did you?

fhghg · 2015-02-11T02:05:35+00:00

Boys play sports and build leggos. Girls play house with dolls.

LeGrandDiableBlanc · 2015-02-11T17:54:10+00:00

The extent to which girls do this coupled with the extent to which girls deny that they do this leads me to believe that in part they often don't even consciously realize that they're doing it.

zhu_ · 2015-02-12T12:23:14+00:00

When I realised this, I ejected and went no contact.

Now I am labelled as a jerk for "ignoring" her.

women.

occupythekitchen · 2015-02-11T00:34:27+00:00

Truth is as a male I've used male betas and I've been the beta role too. Manipulation is part of the human experience she just established her skills early in life.

My point is this she was a lesson to the 4 of us. Men want to please who they like so women can naturally take advantage of it. Men have to work be it on themselves to use women. I have had relationship with women that they put all the effort of course I gave them what they desired but never what they wanted. That's the wold we live in

juanqunt · 2015-02-11T17:31:21+00:00

This is really just the top 20% of women. The bottom 80% of women are basically invisible to me. Every time I go to a typical grocery store, I am almost always the most attractive person there. The average person is just pathetic and disgusting and I never notice them in everyday life.

I don't think average female has this ability, they are so socially awkward and boring. You're talking about only the popular girls who had the time to practice this throughout childhood.

ROIVeritas · 2015-02-12T06:07:35+00:00

Behind every great man, is a woman who is manipulating that man's greatness to work in her favor.

A man's face is his autobiography.

A woman's face is a work of fiction.

Listen to Slipknot's "Vermillion"

Take their advice, and don't let this build up inside of you.

2015-02-11T15:04:04+00:00

I don't think it's appropriate to discuss shit that happened in high school. Y'all were kids and most people want to forget that period of their life anyway. As far as I'm concerned you don't show up on my radar unless you have graduated university or are at least 25.

relationshipdownvote · 2015-02-11T16:23:31+00:00

It wasn't her, the four of you did all the work, all she had to do was be friendly and say yes or no when you invited her out. She didn't have any sort of nefarious plot to use the four of you, you just begged her to do it and she said yes. The fault isn't on her for not being what you wanted, the fault is on you for not asking for what you really wanted and moving on if you didn't get it.

theshadowonthewall · 2015-02-11T00:16:24+00:00

I am truly fascinated by a females natural ability to create an assemblage of orbiters, betas and alphas to tend to her different "needs".

I am fascinated by all human behaviour including my own.

It used to upset me that girls "use" guys as tools.

Anger is caused by a discontinuity between one's beliefs and reality.

aazav · 2015-02-11T11:20:52+00:00

a female's* natural ability

 females = more than one female

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