What was your biggest RP realization?

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March 31, 2020

What scenario happened that made you think - fuck this I need a change?

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Title What was your biggest RP realization?
Author slippersweatpants
Upvotes 93
Comments 166
Date 31 March 2020 04:47 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/359889
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[–]Fabulous-Craft216 points217 points  (20 children) | Copy

Probably the same as most:

Everything you were taught about women is a lie.

[–]iwviw115 points116 points  (5 children) | Copy

My biggest are 1. putting women on a pedestal makes you look worthless in their eyes 2. Women are attracted to men they admire 3. Take care of your own garden and flowers will grow. Take care of your life and handle your shit and that will attract others. chasing them is counterproductive

[–]MrAnderzon40 points41 points  (3 children) | Copy

Once you put a women on a pedestal they have no choice but to look down on you.

[–]Casanova-Quinn20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

You got it. Treat her like a Queen and she’ll treat you like a peasant. To paraphrase Patrice O’Neal, “Who’s the Queen? She’s the King’s bitch.”

[–]iwviw6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was a man who named a mountain after his wife, he name it, Mrs. Oswald Norton

[–]iwviw8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. They want a man they can look up to. At least in some way, in as many ways as possible. Aka admire.... smarts, physical strength, tenacity, social skillls, singing ability, how popular you are, knowledge of wine, whatever it maybe be.

[–]HeartbreakHotline3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This, nothing else is relevant

[–]SavvyVolley69 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much.

[–]slippersweatpants[S] 10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

Sounds about right - seems to be a common trend.

Anything in particular? Love a good post when they're cheated on and makes everything click into place

[–]Fabulous-Craft37 points38 points  (10 children) | Copy

No real tragedies from me. I was lucky to learn and internalize RP early on.

In my late teens I really put in effort and bumped up my SMV. It was very clear how different my interactions with women became. Meeting and attracting them became super easy. I was meeting a lot of women and having fun.

Then I met a girl, who for me at the time, was like a 10. For whatever reason, probably because I thought she was the hottest girl I've ever dated, I wanted a serious relationship with her. Did all the beta things you were taught to do in order to woo a woman.

You can guess what happened next. She lost attraction and dumped me. I had no idea what I did wrong until I was redpilled.

[–]skibbidywibbidy5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

Got any bullet points on what has worked for you as far as attracting women?

[–]jja22126 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

lift weights, stay well groomed, and get properly fitted clothes. Goes a really really long way.

[–]atrejomtnz22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

Assume attraction and be witty af

[–]Alcatraz-121 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

wym by witty ?

[–]Why_Did_I_Sign_Up1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy


[–]Alcatraz-121 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

yes but funny how ? I'm assuming witty means some type of funny, right ?

[–]Kal_sai0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


Bruce wayne kind of funny,It's clever humor

[–]Alcatraz-120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

bruce wayne is mostly serious though I probably forgot what he's like

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Be spontaneous with your mouth. Women love it, in, and outside the bedroom.

[–]Fabulous-Craft1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing different than what's on the sidebar.

-I lifted weights and got lean

-I dressed like a guy in really good shape

-I initiated with women yet never pursued them

[–]throwawaycunt19970 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Everything I was taught about life* was a lie

[–]FormerBradFutureChad49 points50 points  (6 children) | Copy

I was your 100% typical nice guy who was told all these things by friends (who I wasn't attracted to, but nevertheless) how I'm such a good guy and my future girl will be so lucky and all this bullshit I ate up. Met this other chick around a month ago which was also the same time I learned about TRP and started soaking up all this stuff about how women think emotionally and not logically and how hypergamy and comes into play. I'm not saying I'm no longer a nice guy, but I'm steering away from that sinking boat as best I can and it all just comes with time and focusing on yourself. I'm just happy that even though this chick is "perfect and I relate with her so well", I've been able to lump her in with all the other women and if shit doesn't work out, on to the next plate which is something 1 year old me would not be able to do (wouldn't be able to let go so easily)

I think the best thing I've ever read (apparent to my situation) came from Models by Mark Manson where to paraphrase he wrote something along the lines of: "Set out to find the emotional knots in yourself that you may not be aware of. It can be simple things or bigger traumas such as being bullied when you were younger, a divorce, **a death of a loved one** (in this case my mom) and how these small/big things are emotional baggage that tie you down and motivate you to over-invest and receive validation from one specific source or multiple in your life...... **and that source is sometimes women**

Boom. Of course I fucking miss my mom, but I failed to see that I was anxious and seeking out women to replace that emotional piece in my life which supported me, but this mentality from what I know now is a turnoff and will never get you in the door.

[–]FemtoG10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

being relatively free of emotional knots cannot be understated

[–]babybopp5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am 35, 5’5 and have an n count of plus one hundred. This is not a brag. It is a product of freeing my emotional knots as you say. I see guys here bitching about their height and just shake my head. I am currently plating three girls and two of whom are 5’9 and 5’11. One is an “aspiring” model. And they know about each other. I just stopped giving a fuck one day. Funny thing, I wouldn’t even admit this number to my friends because they would t believe me, but, many girls I have met flat out of the blue asked me how many girls I have fucked because I look like trouble...

I used to carry that load of being a shorter guy till my 20’s. I seriously lost my virginity at age 23. I didn’t realize it but it was something I thought held me back. The day I stopped giving a fuck is when I met a shorter Mexican dude who seriously dgaf. But he was slaying. I watched him take home a chic who had thrown IOis all night on another dude who was an athletic 5’10 that fucked up by putting the pussy on a pedestal.

Bear with me, it was a house party he was being social out there, joking, getting some girls laughing. One girl however threw a nuclear shit test on him in front of everyone. She told him that he had short man syndrome. Lil dude didn’t flinch, it was child’s play to him. He had been there numerous times before. He flatly told that girl in front of everyone “it a good thing because when you in my bed tonite, you gonna love how short I am as I won’t hog all the blanket...!”

Jesus...! I would have at that point started telling her that it was not good to bully people for things they can’t control blah blah blah bullshit, panty clamping pussy drying mantras.

Everyone loved it and he took home some girl that night from that dude while I went home and jerked off myself to sleep. I watched him and was blown away how little this dude emotionally invested in girls. How much pussy he was slaying. How he took shit tests after shit test. One day like a knock on the head I went up to a girl and asked to sit next to her. We started small talk and of course the shit test came. I don’t date short guys.... I just looked her squarely in the face and told her, when we lying horizontal in my bed, you gonna be taller than me because those titties on you are looking goood..! I swear, it was just nonsensical bullshit. And she fucking laughed and told me thaaank you, then went on to talk about how it is her greatest asset blah... my moment of zen happened when she as a matter of factory asked me, you got condoms .. right? I could not believe it.

Long story short I did end up starting to plate. That is how I found TRP. I played soccer so was relatively fit. And in the process shed my emotional baggage completely. I padded my Instagram well, shit post on reddit to help with shit tests and how to anticipate them, deleted Facebook a long time ago, and occasionally Snapchat activities me and my best friend do. Like a moth to a flame, the DMs always pop up.

Emotional knots are a state of mind. There are no excuses. One good friend of mine is an albino. He gets the pussy mad. He embraced this a long time ago. I learnt that there is nothing more disappointing to a woman, than a man who physically has it all... who hit the genetic jackpot, but doesn’t give her the tingle when all indicators are, that he should. What’s even more confusing is that she gets that serious tingle, pussy wetting feeling, from a hobbit, like me.

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What a beautiful comment you have here. Thank you for these words and not only I, but others will let this marinate and become brainwashed with greatness.

Keep on writing friend, this is amazing.

[–]ev3rynightfireworks0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

and then what? How do you become "relatively free" of them.

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You acknowledge them consciously. You don’t deny them. But you label them. Then set them in a box and put it down. “Let them pass through you”.

Mindfulness is using your modern forebrain to ID the dark things that activate the lizard brain- which was useful for true death fight/flight scenarios of our evolutionary past, but which is actually counterproductive and limiting in modern times and with most modern challenges.

The fear and tension and cortisol you feel when approaching a women is a example of this, your old brains’ overreaction to a non threatening modern situation.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's your gf and not a plate, if she's the only one you're seeing

[–]seniorgrassfed93 points94 points  (8 children) | Copy

As soon as you think you can relax and have a relationship with a girl, you better smarten the fuck up and just keep doing what you've been doing.

[–]Pharmatt28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

Went from 5+ girls to 1 to 0 lmao

[–]babybopp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is at this comfort zone that most men get cheated on

[–]Strigon11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is how I got dumped

[–]DJ-MBENGA5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

how? afaik, women love when you’re independent and don’t take shit from them with the occasional blue pill behavior sprinkled on top. push and pull.

were you doing too much of one side or?

[–]dpgproductions5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’m guessing he meant the first part about thinking he could relax and get into a relationship.

Love the username btw lol. Tacooooos!

[–]DJ-MBENGA2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

you already know, lakeshow!

[–]dpgproductions1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Took my dad to the Bucks game earlier this month for his bday and splurged for some floor seats. Thankfully it was a week before they suspended the season or I would’ve been pissed lmao

[–]DJ-MBENGA1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would’ve been pissed in that situation too lmao, that Lakers/Bucks game was incredible! That’s sick you got to see it live and court side haha

[–]2319Skew43 points44 points  (4 children) | Copy

She can't love you like you want to be loved

[–]RedPill_Dragon14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen. When I learned that I will never be loved as I wanted, nor as I gave love, it was like all time and space opened up around me and I was only left with truth.

[–]ycthrow0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is something I never truly understood, what does this mean? How do we/i want to be loved and why can't they love I/us the way we want?

Seriously asking

[–]2319Skew1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know how you love your parents, close friends, your girlfriend, your dog or just the feeling that you get when you hit a new PR at the gym?

Each love is different. It's still love but there are different aspects to it.

Women love in an opportunistic kind of way. She will love you for what you bring and can bring to the table. You can read it up on books like the rational male or the side bar for details.

But if you want an example imagine this scenario.

You are going to school. You are fit, good looking, social and are going to go to school to be a doctor. You are also charming and carefree.

You marry that HB 9 gym bunny that's going to school to become psychiatrist.

She drops out since it's too hard and decides to become a hairstylist. She doesn't change any other aspect of her life.

Most guys would say "follow your heart" and carry on. She still pays the bills and everything goes forward as usual.

Reverse the role.

You drop out of medschool to pursue a dream you've had of being a cobbler and make shoes all day. You can pay the bills and are very happy with your life.

She WILL have an issue with it. If you have a solid frame, she'll hamster that it's your dream and she has to accept it or she'll hamster that this is a phase and you'll grow out of it.

If you have a shit frame then you'll spend a lot of nights arguing. She will throw words like "stability and immature and 'real man'" around because it's not a career that society has put value on. She can't brag to her friends about it.

No other aspect of yourself has changed. The only thing that's changed is the value and potential you have.

This is why divorce is so high and 70% of the time started by women.

[–]znikrep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is so accurate it hurts a bit.

[–]Snowboard1879 points80 points  (14 children) | Copy

The craziest realization ime, is that ignore a female doesn’t lower attraction like I always thought, it actually raises it most of the time.

Girl acting up, ignore for a while. Not seeming as interested, ignore for a while. It’s awesome and soo easy.

[–]Kidterrific27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Intermittent reinforcement

[–]y0ussefhesham11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Old simp me thought that chasing a girl made her like you more lmao. Wish I could bury the old me and forget about that shit

[–]Tousen718 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Greenergrass210 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

I’m pretty new to RP so still learning some things, this is where I can’t find a ton of info on. I read through bitch management on the sidebar, but it doesn’t explain how you ignore. Like do you tell them why you ignored them or what do you say when they ask why did you ignore me? It feels they’ll think you’re mad and that’s breaking frame? Example would be bitch does something you didn’t like while you were together, do you tell her then and ignore later or how does the situation actually play out?

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

You don’t tell them why you do shit. Have you read the book of pook? How about Rationale Male vol’s 1-3?

Your question has been asked and answers 3x this week.

[–]Greenergrass211 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Currently reading models, I tried book of pook from the library database on here cus amazon wont let me buy it for some reason, but the version I downloaded is unreadable. Each word is like a letter and it’s just a random alphabet down the page for whatever reason. Rational male is up next, I only saw 1 copy though where do you find vol 2-3?

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Models is very very good. But I would not read it as my first book as it assumes a lot is already understood by the reader. (I would not stop reading it but I would go back and read it later after you’ve read some of the other more foundational texts) “The way of the superior man” by David Deida is another one that I would read later after the other texts.

On the rational male there are definitely three volumes I think two are red and one has a green cover or the other way around.


50 shades of red is another side bar link you should read.

[–]Greenergrass211 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

That makes sense cus models does talk about more so how to act and doesn’t explain the basics so much. I’ll read the book of pook and rational male next after I finish this. Then I can reread this along with superior man. Everything’s making sense, I’m just still learning how to apply it to my life without being cringy or try hard.

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m just still learning how to apply it to my life without being cringy or try hard

just internalize it, reflect, keep absorbing and improving yourself. YOU are your own longest LTR remember that.

[–]chaar__log0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is an app on playstore Anybook which has "the book of pook" and many other books for free and it is same as amazon Kindle. I don't know about ios though.

[–]sbkbrah0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Book of Pook: https://bookofpook.neocities.org/

Has a pdf download if you need it.

[–]Greenergrass210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Awesome thanks dude I’ll save that. Would you happen to know where to find sex god method? That did the same thing on kindle as pook did I’m not sure why. I’m not sure it’s worth $900 on amazon lol

[–]Project_Zero_Betas72 points73 points  (4 children) | Copy

"The only guy girls want to fuck less than an ugly guy is a fat ugly guy so I better start losing this weight"

[–]y0ussefhesham13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

Exactly. I literally can't find one single attractive fat dude. Crazy how much weight can change how attractive someone is.

I lost a lot of weight and I'm on the road to the leanest I've ever been. Let's goo!

[–]Project_Zero_Betas17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Some fat guys can get laid. But I'm not one of them.

[–]znikrep5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

True, but it is in spite of that. They could lose that and make their own lives easier.

[–]MysticalMike19902 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

this kind of thinking is what got me out of listening to Burt Kreischer. I can't stand someone who just keeps up excuses about how they can't stop drinking and not working towards. losing all that weight. A healthy mind doesn't happen in an unhealthy body very often.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (4 children) | Copy

Was naturally redpilled by my dad after watching him get divorce raped, watched him being an asshole which attracted playboy models etc.

Nooo this wasn’t enough for my dumbass to see what worked. I had to go find a good “Christian girl” who ended up being the biggest whore game player I’d ever met leaked porn and all. I’d fucked strippers in my past with more class(can you tell I’m still salty?).

Anyway this is about a year and a half ago and it’s forever cemented in my head. In the end led me here and it was every thought I had ever realized written on paper with millions who agree.

The end

[–]babybopp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am much better now that I left an unhealthy relationship is woman speak for she was caught cheating. Don’t get caught in that ever...

[–]hopingforclearskin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate on your dad being an asshole

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy


Narcissistic, impulsive, borderline psychopathic, literally doesn’t care about anyone beyond what they can do for him.

Is able to read cues and know exactly what a woman wants to hear within seconds of meeting them, and as soon as she gets out of line discards them, because he always has four or five on tap. I remember having a playboy magazine and looking downstairs and there she was. She stayed for a week until he got bored just one of many examples.

This was all about 15 years ago he’s slowed down but damn if my thirties are half like his my dick is going to fall off.

He was the trifecta and what I aspire to be. Looks, game, and money. My mom tore his soul out and used the kids as pawns. I’ll never let anyone have that kind of leverage on me, I’m glad I got hurt before it got to that level.

I’m bored in quarantine so I may have wrote too much lol.

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m bored in quarantine so I may have wrote too much lol.

If you had wrote too little, this would not have as big of an impact for our understanding.

[–]BruhMoment4588630 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had a lot of those. I didnt get respected at work. I was made fun of and disrespected a lot.

I was beta af and put my ex on a pedestal while at the same time she was losing interest. I allowed her to use me and abuse me.

I actually looked up to blue pilled guys because I thought they were nice and I thought Alpha males were assholes. Basic media/blue pilled conditioning.

I look back at disgust with how weak and desperate I was. How insecure and immature I was. I knew I had to change. Currently in the process but just knowing how the world works makes me feel better than before when I'd repress everything I didnt like

[–]DTron233227 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

When I lost everyone, all my friends, my girlfriend who I thought was the “one” and that would always be by my side. When I stopped thinking for myself, and let others think for me. When I supported women more than I supported myself. When I was a pushover, a loser, that was isolated in video games, porn, and self pity.

I lost and gave up my passion in highschool, I hated myself, to the point that I disliked how I looked. Everything about myself, including my family, I did not want to be a part of. I was extremely desensitized to everything, and I would dissociate so much it was insane.

Eventually after sitting in my room alone, with no one, I decided that it was time for a change. I started hitting the gym everyday, quit smoking weed, quit masterbating, and eventually I found the red pill. It took me awhile to come out of a blue pill state, I would say 1-2 years. Eventually I found the motivation to read, and what helped me the most was bodybuilding.

Since bodybuilding is the sole purpose of focusing on yourself, and pushing yourself to the limit. I quickly became addicted. This self idealization made me focus less on women, and always put myself first. Doing so didn’t come without consequences, I lost friends, I went through a lot of pain, I had meaningless sex with a lot of women, many times I felt depressed.

But no matter what I always remind myself at the end of the day the only person you have is yourself, and the only way you grow in life is through pain, the one thing we try and avoid the most. Life is too short, the red pill is solely about yourself.

[–]Kidterrific6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

thank you for sharing this.

[–]sniper19051 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You must have been hurt a lot because of abandonment. You must be a truly strong person because of the adversities that you faced, head on, and became what you are today according to your post.

I however hope that you can somehow, someway help someone else who is vulnerable to the same situation you once were. It doesn't have to be an e-mail with this reddit as a link, but even someone who needs a mentor, a big bro to the gym since they're losers just like you explicitly said in your post.

I think you will be in an even better place because in life, spiritually and emotionally because you didn't have a big bro to lend you a hand, but because you have now lent someone who had the potential to become great, they become great, because, you made an impact on someone.

Hope all is well!

[–]DTron23321 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you, I’ve made many mistakes and have been fucked times. Life gets hard, but that doesn’t give me an excuse to every give up. While I don’t like what I’ve been through, it has made me who I am today, and gave me the knowledge that I wouldn’t have without it.

I never had a hand, but I don’t mind helping others out they truly want help from me. If there is one thing I like more than winning, is helping others that win that truly deserve it.

[–]0kool7428 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

“She’s not yours, it’s just your turn.”

That to me was the biggest colossal slap in the face. Once I internalized that and realized that no woman out there can navigate a meaningful and long lasting relationship, it turned into get the pussy as long as it’s available and move on after it’s done.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being nice doesn't help you to get your way. It's actually working the opposite.

[–]DarkRedSpace24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

After hours of texting every late night, she still knew more about Shawn Mendes.

[–]notaselfdrivingcar7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]IndianaBW21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

1) You are truly on your own. Your mother loves you, hopefully your father does too. Your closest 1 or 2 friends will fold when pressure gets too hard but should be fairly reliable. A women will never come within a mile of the security/reliability of your closest male friend, or your family. Not even a marriage of 5.. 10 years. Men commit suicide every day from their lifelong "soulmate" leaving in a heartbeat and ruining their life, just at a moments notice. You're on your own in this life, this isn't a fucking hyperbole.

2) Nobody likes people who are weak, down, or publicly defeated.. they subconsciously tell themselves to run from them. Suffer in private or in the midst of the closest connections (mother, best friend) in your life to work you through or you will lose respect exponentially. Zero exceptions.

3) "Be yourself", in a traditional context, is a lie. I have watched people embrace this as a last hail mary to find their identity, or stand out, and time and time again become turned on as social outcasts/become weirdos. Your public image & reception from those around you is one of your strongest assets in life, quit making an ass/character of yourself publicly (social media & elsewhere) as a form of desperate self expression.

[–]Chadster11319 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

That what I wanted out of women was sex and not a relationship. I use to think the relationship came before sex and would act that way. Now I have experienced different

[–]Hungboy696942017 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

See this in alot of guys. They think they need to show how committed they are to her before sex. Nope.

[–]According-Cod0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm so guilty

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (4 children) | Copy

The average person's intelligence is below that of house cats

[–]Project_Zero_Betas7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Discovering so many people daydream was my equivalent realization

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is daydreaming a bad thing?

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's more constructive ways to spend your cognitive powers in the middle of the day than on beam struggles.

[–]secureMPC10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]theUnBannableHulk70 points71 points  (4 children) | Copy

Save your Love NOT for the woman but for your children she’ll bear you

[–]Whitefarmer18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s a rough day when she accuses you of that lol

[–]PM_ME_CASH-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Still bluepilled I see.

[–]orishasinc2[🍰] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whores are the only honest women you will ever meet.

[–]BigDickEnergy12337 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

This one I haven't seen in RP, yet.

But the longer you date a girl/the more emotionally invested she is in you the less she's willing to do for you sexually.

All my married friends and even though I have a great girlfriend, I can tell the longer we date the less sexually liberated she is.

Sidenote: If any girl is willing to have a threesome with you, dating her is probably the worst outcome for that to change.

Conclusion: Once women know they have you, they're different in bed. They aren't willing to do half the shit they would to keep some rando.

Conclusion 2: Dating women is generally a terrible idea if you want to keep having kinky sex.

Also, arguments are good. Being an asshole to her is basically essential. If you have the ability to leave at any time and prove it she'll be upset at the time, but I guaran fucking tee you she'll do whatever to keep you.

Maybe this is basic RP shit, but I'm a little tipsy so fuck it.

[–]Whitefarmer10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Second last paragraph is so on the money! Keep drinking my man

[–]EqualFaithlessness6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree 100% that’s for anything tho not only sex, once they know they have you they give no effort into anything. It’s like the chase is over so why try. Once you put them 4th or 5th in your life she’ll scratch and claw to climb the ranks.

[–]gsp95114 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That wasn't the case for me with my last LTR. We had sex every time we met. I did end up dumping her after 1 year and 6 months in, though. I think with the right frame you can keep her always crazy for more (but it also depends on the chick). Though it seems those kind of girls are rarely trustworthy...

[–]pepskino1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Truest shit I’ve ever read

[–]dbshne11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of people aren’t genuinely happy (internally validated). And how is more important than what.

[–]cfbovernfl9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I was better looking than the guys who kept getting with girls I liked in high school. I knew it was a "me" problem. If you can't pull a girl, that's on you, not her.

[–]hanzkloss10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Being friends with club chicks, only to go out with them for lunch one day to then listen to their disgusting sexcapades, needless to say, the goggles came off that day.

[–]hopingforclearskin2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Care to share what they told you?

[–]hanzkloss1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Basically, the degenerate shit you see in porn, two dudes fucking them in the ass at the same time. Mind you, I’m eating lunch and trying to enjoy my food. And then I’m thinking, “These people are going to be moms one day....?”

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Learning about hypergamy. Duh

[–]mravek3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always tought there exist only good girls and gold diggers. Once I learned about hypergamy I realized there are far more different girls other then gold diggers.

[–]dkod0669 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Light switch effect is the biggest, you will not realise how fast a person can absolutely forget you and act like you never existed but when you see it a few times, you proper swallow red pill

[–]Wheysteve1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Saw this on TRP quite a few times, never read much into it or knew it was a thing. Then it happened to me...light switch effect is real and be ready for it always.

[–]dkod0660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, same goes for me. You truly only see the light switch effect in action when it is you, having your light switched off...

[–]FrenCan3166 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was never getting what I wanted, or even knowing what I wanted, because I was a passive NiceGuy who drank the koolaid and used covert contracts. It was getting kinda traumatic how much things were always going the wrong way and I was getting walked all over by women who I considered to be on my level or lower. What I didn't understand was that I was operating in a self-conflicting way by following what I was socialized (by women) to do. The "realization" that I think crystallizes all RP knowledge/philosophy with your real world experience as a man is: don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

[–]omega_dawg937 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

girls get fucked a lot!

no I'm not talking about the popular pretty girl, I'm talking about all of them.

they fuck waaaaay more than you'll ever know. they take their true number to the grave... and trust me. your ego can't handle the number or the size they've encountered.

source = 3 older sisters and their friends who showed me how women truly operate.

[–]cfbovernfl4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know, I totally wish I had an older sister. Learning all this growing up in my teens would've been so eye-opening and helpful.

[–]omega_dawg934 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy


not only did my 3 sisters all do the same shit, but all of their friends played men the SAME, EXACT way.

i thought it was some mad scheme they devised, but nope... it was just how girls operate and BELIEVED that they should operate.

keep the spare tire inflated and ready.

[–]imtheoneimmortal8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can do everything in your life and nobody gives a shit

[–]Zapche13 points14 points  (28 children) | Copy

I’m a very very good looking man. I was getting turned away for fat guys. I had to understand why

[–]Lostfate0924 points25 points  (10 children) | Copy

You're very modest also

[–]Zapche7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy

Probably would say I’m humble if you saw what I looked like

[–]cfbovernfl0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

So you're a model, then. Link us to pics from your most recent shoot.

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy


[–]cfbovernfl7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're definitely good looking, lot more than most guys here would prob give credit for, but the way you talked I expected you to be a Sean O'Pry lookalike lol. Props for actually replying back though.

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I respect you

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Actually laughed at this - love it man

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I love you man

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Stay safe out there comrade

[–]SZDK2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The war is over comrade

[–]mayer971 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not only you're not very very good looking, you're also kinda ugly (face wise). If you get it on a lot, it's because you're big + got good game. So what you say is actually true "That it doesn’t matter what a MAN looks like. At all. For starters"

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t even matter what I look like

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

Well? What did you understand?

[–]Zapche2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

That it doesn’t matter what a MAN looks like. At all. For starters.

MOST guys are cool & can get ANY female. Though that same said guy is the only reason he’s not getting what he TRULY wants.

[–]kenpachitz1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

That it doesn't matter what a MAN looks like. At all.

I'm going to need you to elaborate on that… quite a bit. People have gotten famous purely for their looks.

I'm wondering what you've gone through to make you say that.

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Patrice O’Neal is all the proof and example I need. What I’ve seen with my own eyes works too. I’ve see far too many ugly out of shape dudes with banging bitches.

Men have skills to offer Women only have body to offer

Women just simply don’t care about looks it’s not what they were designed to go for. They love very very differently than we do.

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Some men are pure eye candy for women and entertainment. 10 years ago, Taylor Lautner was the fucking man and only had that position because of his looks (face and body).

Looks do matter for us men, but game and frame is even more important. That is a statement that I am fully committed for.

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

No looks matter for media and corporate marketing. Looks don’t matter as far as fucking women goes. You could be fat black 300 lbs diabetic and get top tier women that are hot with careers. I.e Patrice O’Neal.

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Remember him? He was a criminal viral because of his mugshot, and married the daughter of a billionaire.

[–]Zapche0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

There’s always fringes, anomalies & exceptions

[–]sniper19050 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's what I'm trying to get at you.

In your comment you had said that looks don't matter at all. They do, just not as much my guy.

Hope all is well and have a good rest of the night!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

All women are the same. You just need to find one who has the same interests as you and you'll be okay.

[–]Nergaal5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

The exact moment I've opened up, I could see disgust in everything she said after. I've treated her like shit and she always came back. But the moment I opened up, she never came back.

[–]hopingforclearskin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]SupremeBBC5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That she's not mine, it's only my turn.

[–]jizzonmypants4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Woman only care about their feelings and their image

[–]Transport1274 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most women have little or nothing to offer into the table and yet they feel entitled.

And realized how women quickly get bored of you no matter how much they love you at first

[–]hockeyaddict8712 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women want sex just as much as us but they aren’t open about it for fear of being called a slut. But once it’s you and her in her room everything changes

[–]MotiMorphosys3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women will continue to give you their best when they know you have other options, and that fact only makes them want you more.

[–]RivenHalf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was raised nice, not a single mom but might as well be. Fawned over women. Tried to be the "good dude" meanwhile I hung out with absolute scumbags and yet they all had a steady stream of very attractive girlfriends and I was always single. A man gets tired eventually. Started seeking out what the fuck I was going wrong online and here I am.

[–]Howdoiusesync2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking married women. You don't really see how women are until they're chasing your validation. They can act well when in your frame.

[–]ItzFizzy12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Biggest realization was seeing the sub I guess. You know a bunch of redditors label this as an incel place or think it’s harmful/ lies, so I checked it out and was just reading through TRP. Then I saw the sidebar and posts about things girls do, and thought to myself “hey, I have seen all these problems and encountered the same stuff with girls... wait... holy shit. This all makes sense”

[–]pepskino2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn shame that all these comments are true

[–]ThatCub3K1d2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a little different than probably mosts, but that in every single aspect of your life you really aren't shit until you earn it and prove it. And once you've earned it and proved it, you can go back to being nothing if you don't continue to prove it.

[–]1RedPillFusion2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bill Burr does a bit about how women argue. It's truly a masterpiece and a microcosm for many inconvenient truths.

[–]FAKH892 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My break up , with a girl that I actually treated her well, like waayy too well , but then after our first real big fight , well she tried to ruin my future at uni , sabotage my relationship with mutual friends, rebounded with a pansy looking guy . And well I couldn't believe someone I loved could actually treat me like that , so Im trying to change , but fuck, it's really hard to love myself and take care of it. Especially ,after being thrown away this easily like trash , still not 100% over it tbh , my pride still suffer sometimes , and I have this undying rage inside me . But Im trying to be better , and implement some of red pill teaching but Fuck it's hard to read something and actually doing it !!!

[–]redvelvet_oreo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All of it. Its amazing how far social conditioning can make you believe something that isnt real. People live there whole lives believeing a lie. Its incredible. Other have mentioned most things I found revealing but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Men have the upper hand when it comes to commitment. Its the women who craves and seeks exclusivity. We have always been taught to lock down a good girl but the reality is she should be chasing you looking to lock you down because of your high value.

The other was stop being so nice to people and breaking the social contract. I always thought I was trying to be respectful but I really was pedstilizing and overvaluing other people. I was giving them respect they haven't earned. Big mistake. Glad I was able to learn it. Funny I just picked up a fighting book that talks about this in the preface.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This girl “Friend” of mine told me that in my hall I’m the guy that everyone wants to marry but nobody wants to date.

Translation: MAX BETA

[–]writersfromtheorient2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I beg to differ - it will be the rise of hipsters that lead to me questioning things more; there’s liberal and then there’s what actually goes against your own best interests. Also the stupid fashions among peers that you deep down feel are just shit; you wonder if there’s some kind of force or agenda behind it. Being a bit rural and ‘backward’ has its advantages sometimes, because you hold back before jumping straight into whatever degeneracy is pushed this week.

Full blown red pills about immigration, feminism, LGBT, vegans etc came later. Not that I never had a bad girlfriend on the way to make me to learn a thing about the reality of women. There’s no point getting angry forever though.

[–]RedPill_Dragon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Although women had huge value to me, I had no value to women. ZERO. When I figured that one out, and accepted it, my chains were lifted and I was free.

[–]superomar131 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My biggest RP realization had nothing to do with me, it had all to do with women. The bull vs the cuck idea, the idea that women get a kick out of dominating the boyfriends with another guy, the idea that women get a kick out of seeing their boyfriends being tooled, etc. And learning how to become strong through that adversity and still loving them all the same.

[–]1InformalCriticism1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anytime the government intervenes in romantic situations.

[–]Rememberthecodex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That almost all the suffering you experience is something that make you grow stronger if you act accordingly.

Not acting makes you stagnate.

[–]GlobalArachnid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Looking at most guys past thirty and realising how shit their lives are. They work jobs they hate and don't believe they can get another job, they neglect their health and watch their bodies fall apart and don't bother to maintain their health, they neglect dating and marrying while they're young and are forced to take up relationships with women that high-SMV men didn't want to marry since they think that getting a good job will make them more attractive.

[–]EvelynnSpoiler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Chick mocked a beta dude for getting raped

The realization that women can easily not give a fuck about men they don't respect really stuck with me.

[–]Zero-Milk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That my bloodline likely ends with me.

I had a several paragraphs elaborating on this statement, but I deleted them. Those of you that truly understand the state of things will already understand why I feel this way.

[–]chaar__log0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That girls aren't the most pure and innocent creature in the world, and they want it as much as you do if not more. Wanting to fuck them is perfectly normal and not perverted as I used to think.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That I was right from the beginning <

[–]mikkeldaman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That the most successful guy with women is someone creative. You always need to find new ways to compliment them, challenge them, tease them, gain an emotional reaction from them in general. Granted, the same script works for all the women because I can pride myself with my novelty, but the same script won't work for the same woman for long. Also balance between flirtation and comfort... too much flirtation and you'll end up labeled as a walking sex toy... too much comfort and you'll end up in the dreaded friendzone.

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[–]hopingforclearskin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Give some examples of what you changed

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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