Good guys finish last always.

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November 8, 2020

So yesterday one of my top plates calls me and asks to meet up for lunch. Calendar empty, why not? So we meet up at this nice restaurant and she arrives ten minutes after me. She is dropped off by some dude literally. So we get to talking how she has been. Hadn’t seen her in like three weeks. Get some drinks and lunch.

Now here is the funny thing, about an hour in, she gets a call from a delivery driver, a package at the door. Hmmmm, curious as to what it is... she goes out and comes back with a bouquet of red and white roses. Like 30 of them plus chocolates. The dude who dropped her at the door, sent them as a romantic gesture. She told him she is meeting some good friends for lunch.

She comes back with the roses and chocolate. I was like “heck yeah, you finally landed a romantic dude to take care of you.” She was half smiling. Then she said something that shocked even me. She told me, ”don’t you think this is kinda creepy??!” then put them on the floor. I told her not to be to harsh on the dude as he was trying to impress her. She proceeded to say how he had been getting her things and now was starting to get creeped out. And asked why dude was well off, 30 years and didn’t have a girlfriend? She was basically writing the sidebar herself as I sat there intrigued. She used words like “seems weak” and “doesn’t seem to be in charge” and “she wants a man who would dominate her”... am guessing his idea was to impress her friends she was meeting.

Listened to her ramble for a bit and proceeded to take her to a salsa dance place then took her to my place and fucked her brains out. She left me one rose as I called her an Uber. Texted me to say dude is taking her out of town for an overnight staycation at some resort. Asked me if she should bring me a bottle of whiskey as dude likes to buy. Sure...

I was this dude some years back. Dropping off a chic at a restaurant as she goes in to meet her friends after spending money on her. I was into the romance game. Now am on the other side of the curtain and one thing is for sure, it is fun to watch.

Edit: forgot to mention, she still hasn’t fucked him.

Because some of y’all are skeptics, here is the rose she left in my couch

struggle is real and out there, just came across this poor dude

Stay safe

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Title Good guys finish last always.
Author babybopp
Upvotes 771
Comments 179
Date 08 November 2020 11:23 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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[–]1BlondeHornyElf176 points177 points  (15 children) | Copy

so she finds him "creepy", but is still going with him to an overnight staycation resort...

[–]Oppressions95 points96 points  (2 children) | Copy

Watch what women do not what they say, she’s likely just puffing herself up by saying that shit and probably doesn’t actually believe it.

[–]1BlondeHornyElf68 points69 points  (0 children) | Copy

sure ya but i've had a problem with chicks calling guys "creepy" since the beginning... to be called creepy is to imply that he might be a rapist. it's subtle but i rly dislike it it's a more serious accusation than calling the guy lame or unattractive, can actually hurt a guy's reputation.

[–]Iwashere1111129 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women talk a lot but it’s mostly meaningless. No one says “I’m a woman of my word”. Like you said, watch their actions, ignore their words

[–]1319Skew117 points118 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's saying he's creepy because OP is there and she knows he's going to fuck her. It's just the hamster talking making what comes next as OK.

[–]tropicislandexplorer61 points62 points  (0 children) | Copy

My thought exactly! She's telling the OP what she thinks he wants to hear, just like she'll tell the nice guy what she thinks he wants to hear.

[–]I-respect-females58 points59 points  (1 child) | Copy

This, also the part about her not sleeping with him might also be bullshit

[–]red__Man46 points47 points  (3 children) | Copy

she is probably fucking the "creepy" dude too, but who cares

[–]yaboyebeatz25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely, as long as OP keeps the dates cheap as fuck and continues to dig her guts, he’s good. These hoes will always be hopping on multiple sticks.

[–]facepunchbowl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s letting him eat her snatch lol

[–]3LiveAFTSOV14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah free vacation in an upscale environment. Of course she will go. Not like she has to sleep with him for it, simps will pay 100,000's of dollars just for a woman's company alone

[–]bitesizechicken15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

She might go with him but they ain’t fuckin

[–]East_Assignment22592 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This plate if fucking both dudes.

[–]Rkingpin309 points310 points  (35 children) | Copy

Dual mating strategy in full display here. Newbies take notes and dont be a flower boy

[–]babybopp[S] 139 points140 points  (18 children) | Copy

Worst part, she still hasn’t fucked him...

[–]KylieJennersbutthole179 points180 points  (13 children) | Copy

One thing I’ve noticed about girls is all of them have at least 10 unopened chats on their snap from guys and at least 50+ matches on tinder. One night I was in bed with one of my plates and she was scrolling through she opened a couple snaps and some of the guys were offering her drinks, coke, weed for her to come over. Others were trying to take her out to dinner.

There I was laying there thinking about how I nutted in her mouth within two hours the first night we met without giving her anything and there’s guys out there offering her hundreds of dollars worth of shit just to get in the same room as this 6/10.

She told me she talks to some of them because they’re “so sweet”. Meaning she keeps them around for their non sexual energy and I remembered how I used to be one of those sweet guys until I found the red pill and realised being sweet wasn’t getting me anywhere.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven30 points31 points  (5 children) | Copy

Whats really diagusting, atleast imo, is the modern way of every little thing being named and broken down so they can justify things as "needs" to themself.

[–]KylieJennersbutthole44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy

It’s not disgusting, it’s their nature and they are needs though. Attention and validation are everything to a woman. Of course you’ll rarely get a girl that’ll outright admit it because she wouldn’t want to seem as shallow as the next girl.

[–]babybopp[S] 29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude , it is amazing when u are IDGAF. Update: She refused the staycation... wants to meet up for drinks with me. I told her no, got stuff to do... she is planning for tomorrow

[–]KylieJennersbutthole37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy

They become almost obsessed with you when you don’t care, it’s funny

[–]send_it_for_the_boys27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes then the tables turn and she becomes the creepy beta guy lol

[–]Acceptable-Term48231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Saying its their nature is excusing bad behavior. Just because i wanna fuck every attractive female doesn't mean i try and act upon it.

[–]2Simptopimp-co-uk22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is so true that I know you actually fuck. Every one of my plates has that "10 unopened chat" phenomenon. And here I am, I don't even save their numbers in my phone, text them literally one word to organise a fuck. I used to be that unopened snap guy, thank you rp.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What exactly is the difference?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well What made you different? Im sure you just told her to come over, just like those 10 other unopened snaps.

[–]mrbabZ2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He probably stopped being a cringelord and started going to the gym.

That's usually how u change.

[–]sixseven892 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought that was implied

[–]ChodeBonch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

According to her. And women never lie.

[–]RemyPrice13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Flower boy has to be the best name for a blue piller I’ve ever heard.

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[–]ProdigyPizza[🍰] 23 points24 points  (10 children) | Copy

Had almost the same shit happen to me. The biggest mistake was thinking she was different. Never wasting my time on a bitch like that again. TRP is a lifesaver!

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[–]ProdigyPizza[🍰] 33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy

I see you are still in the anger phase brother. It's in their nature to act the way they do. You can't hate a fish for swimming right? So get over it and start building yourself up. Learn from your mistakes and move forward. You can't change them but you can change yourself. I wish you the best in getting over the hardest part of the pill.

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[–]ProdigyPizza[🍰] 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

It is what it is however hard it is to comprehend. Drop the nice guy attitude, it gets you nowhere. Never think you've improved enough but always consider yourself enough. There is always room to grow but you have to let these bitches accept you for who you are then and there otherwise it won't work. I recommend reading up on some stoicism and watching some AMS videos, that shit helped me a ton not so long ago.

[–]8trius6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Favorite line: Never think you’ve improved enough but always consider yourself enough.”

Meaning, I haven’t improved enough to achieve my next set of goals. But good enough to get a girl wet?

Hell yeah.

[–]ProdigyPizza[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meaning, I haven’t improved enough to achieve my next set of goals. But good enough to get a girl wet?

Exactly, you can always be a better version of yourself but never consider yourself not good enough for a girl.

[–]FAKH890 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yoh mate what did tge comment say ?

[–]ProdigyPizza[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Doesn't even matter, the conclusion is:

[–]FAKH893 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly I hope your my ex rebound 🤣🤣

[–]Magicus1112 points113 points  (15 children) | Copy

The crazy part about this is when you fast forward to The Wall.

You can clearly see “slut” & “whore” written on their foreheads as they inch closer to the wall.

They get desperate & then try to turn to you thinking you’d take them in. And you laugh and laugh and laugh.

Girl, no. I saw all your sins. I saw how you cheated & flaked on other dudes. I was watching the whole time.

I was only willing to fuck you. I wouldn’t marry you. Nobody in their right mind wants to marry you.

You’re a semen repository, not wifey.

You can barely cook, you don’t like to clean, and you’ve got more miles on you than an old dump truck.

Then they send you selfies in bed (I wanna cuddle) & you laugh.

They only want romance when they’re tired of the CC & realize that there’s nothing at the end & they’ve wasted their time.

I know one like this right now. High mileage, low value, & literally only brings sex to the table. And she’s not even that hot, just a cute face with large knockers & plenty of debt.

I know another at 32 basically asking all the marriage type questions. She’s not bad & by her own admission is “simple”.

It’s crazy, but romance, to them, has become an indicator of weakness. Never confuse kindness with weakness.

But if they knew better, they wouldn’t be in their 30s panicking.

[–]1BlondeHornyElf133 points134 points  (12 children) | Copy

"chivalry is dead, and women killed it"

~ Dave Chappelle

[–]a14deadpool27 points28 points  (9 children) | Copy

I’m glad chivalry is dead who the fuck cares about being a gentleman.

[–]red-reality15 points16 points  (8 children) | Copy

When average dudes become literal savages again, women will def want the "gentleman".

[–]a14deadpool6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

But why will that happen? Men won’t become “savages” unless society collapses but that thing won’t happen. And if you’re a man why do you want to be chivalrous that’s simp bro.

[–]red-reality10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every society that ever has been has collapsed eventually.

[–]Existing_Nature_87768 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

Look around you and you will see it most of the nations and this world are on the way to collapse either financially, economically, socially and definitely collapse caused by climate change and ecological destruction.

[–]jbird6696 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Ugh, this climate crap again. Let's keep that out this forum, please.

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_III2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Why are you triggered by the mention of climate change.

[–]jbird6694 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

1) What is this triggered you speak of? 2) It's not the forum for it 3) Read climate skeptics here on reddit

[–]jbird6691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This ain't the forum for it. Check out climate skeptics on reddit for more.

[–]TheYellows20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy


[–]1BlondeHornyElf14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

you are absolutely not a whore, no question, not a whore that's inappropriate...

...but you're sure as hell wearing a whore's uniform!

[–]Rock_Granite6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

& plenty of debt.

YES!!! And all from buying stupid worthless shit that they can't even remember why they bought it.

Save some money?? No F-ing way they're doing that.

[–]floppyjabjab30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

This has to always be a plate and never anything beyond that.

She calls it creepy but keeps on going places with him and let him buy her shit, she knows what she's doing very well.
Isn't it amazing how a woman can be right off the bat "I have a boyfriend" but when they have something to gain out of it they're always like "oh darn I had no idea you like me"

Never lose your frame, #1 golden rule of the top tier males

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[–]BrownGummyBear3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree, being romantic can work for the right girl (one who really wants to be with you). If your SMV is not high enough in her eyes you’ll just be a creep

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


  • less is more
  • let it be an exception, not the rule
  • not when she expects it
  • give as an expression of positive emotion (thanks, warmth, etc) but NOT with a covert contract- expect nothing else in return, other than a thank you.

[–]RedKingRising21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll take it even further. DOn't do it unless she does something special for you outside of fucking her. Fucking her is a gift. You're the one doing the fucking work here. She's laying on her back on maybe riding it a little. 80% is you. So she doesn't get flowers and shit for your hard work. If she comes by and cleans your place, cooks you dinner, goes the extra mile,finds girls for the threesome, she gets romantic shit.

As DMX said, "I gave you what you gave me, a nut". Or for my weeb bros, It's the law of equivalent exchange.

[–]IAmCoochieMan9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wouldn't say romance is equal to sex though. Romance goes a tad farther than fucking in my opinion.

[–]red-reality8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with you. But we sure do live in fucked up times don't we.

[–]red-reality3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, or do the romantic stuff if you're legitimately happy with her. The problem is though, most average guys' standard for "happiness" with a woman is getting a text back nowadays.

[–]red-reality10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Totally. But like Sun Tzu says, if you know yourself and know your enemy, you'll win 100% of the time. Problem is, 90% of guys don't know their true nature or the true nature of their woman. And if that is the case, roses certainly ain't gonna help your cause.

[–]LibertarianLibertine18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

They love it after you started fucking them and they dream about an LTR with you. So that they feel special and not like another one of your hoes.

[–]Lurkingnopost5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was coming in to add that. For the right woman, with the right romantic frame, romantic gestures can be the best kind of lubricant.

[–]anonimo421 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you. You can definitely still be an alpha and romantic.

[–]CoeurDeLion-Sag40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

Happened to me as well. When lying in the bed naked, she takes her phone out shows me some selfies taken by a man who is having feelings for her in her office and told me the things he would do for her, how he takes care her short comings at work, lunches and dinners he causally buys her at work just to impress her. Now I really don't know whether she told me all these things to make me jealous or how should I be like ,I kind of felt little bad for the guy.

[–]babybopp[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I stopped feeling bad... remember how whipped before you were about a chics feelings and being romantic and always wonder why she would fuck u

[–]kaikaipanda6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I remembered reading an article on this sub about how women who fuck you casually will open up to you more than her husband/future husband. I had the same experience where chicks will tell me how some other guys will do things that made them cringed or creeped out, and indirectly go on about how they see me as a guy for fucking and it was a moment of epiphany where you realized TRP principles struck like a cord.

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[–]acceler8td11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

You went salsa dancing after lunch????

[–]babybopp[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude been doing keto and fat dropping so had a salad for lunch...

[–]MarsWasTakenWasTaken26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

New guys take notes and do not be a flower boy. Not every person deserves what you can do

[–]boy_named_su26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

Man gives girl flower. "Don't you think this is kinda creepy?"

Same girl gives you flower

Dat cognitive dissonance

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[–]3LiveAFTSOV2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

An alpha gives a girlfriend flowers because he wants to

A beta gives a girl flowers to set up a covert contract where compensation from her part is expected by him

[–]AshyLarry2742 points43 points  (6 children) | Copy

”don’t you think this is kinda creepy??!” then put them on the floor. I told her not to be to harsh on the dude as he was trying to impress her.

Its funny how most guys will think women are being very cocky or pompous when they start going on about how creepy or "not the right fit" some nice guy is. Its once you ask if she is being too harsh that they avalanche out a myriad of supporting stories after. Women live a different life from us. If a guy were to say this, he might be trying to humble brag. When a woman does it, it is coming from a place of legitimate concern for her safety and and nose diving lack of attraction for the guy.

[–]babybopp[S] 16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

She is afraid he will propose...

[–]atifhere36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tl;dr OP is FWB with a low quality woman, who one day will stop giving him pussy and say to a new dude that OP have now become weak.

As long as you are not investing anything other than condoms for her, then kudos to you for fucking a slut that don't ask for money.

[–]FinancialThanks16 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your title is the wrong conclusion. The guy is not good. There’s nothing virtuous about trying to buy a girls affection.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She told me, ”don’t you think this is kinda creepy??!”

OP: be warned. Women are experts at telling you what you want to hear. She will understand instinctively that she can just call this guy "nice / creepy" and you won't take him seriously as a threat.

Why do you think that she is being honest with you? She's leading this guy on, but you think that because she's fucking you that you're getting the truth?

Texted me to say dude is taking her out of town for an overnight staycation at some resort

So now you are happy that she's overnighthing with another guy, while you laugh that he's buying your whiskey?

She's laughing too... probably to her friends...."One guy buys the other whisky, I tell the nice guy that I hate bad boys, I tell the bad boy that I hate nice guys, and meanwhile I'm getting double dicked and they're both happy with it..... I even tell one guy that I overnight with the other, and he believes we're not having sex!".

Here's a word of advice: women who habitually manipulate men (for attention, money, whoring, simping, meals, drinks) are not women worthy of your time. They'll turn it on you sooner or later, if they haven't already.

TLDR: Don't believe what women say just because it agrees with your newfound TRP knowledge.

[–]1arakouzo11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

The big lie men are raised to believe is that women need to feel emotionally connected in order to have sex, so you need to spend weeks if not months dating to build a connection with her for her to fall in love with you so the sexual relationship can begin.

Sex and love are connected, yes, but it is the REVERSE of what men are told when they are young.

Women need to feel sexually attracted to you in order to become connected emotionally. They can have sex whenever they feel like having sex, with or without an emotional connection. Some women are down with casual sex and don't even want to be taken out on dates. They're having too much fun hooking up. Some women will hold out for a few dates to put on a good show.

But anyway, the emotional connection is not a prerequisite to sex. Sex is a prerequisite to the emotional connection. If you are not the kind of guy she would hook up with at a bar the night she met you, there is NO route to anything with this woman. And a guy trying to buy and impress his way into a woman's pants when a guy who gets it is supposed to know better is really, really creepy.

[–]barnowl50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not quite sure why this hasn't got more points... A brilliant summary really.

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[–]blokia_31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

She was basically writing the sidebar herself as I sat there intrigued. She used words like “seems weak” and “doesn’t seem to be in charge” and “she wants a man who would dominate her”

Also this, women are usually very vague about what they want, it's very strange language she used there.

Also salsa dancing in the middle of the day?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Also salsa dancing in the middle of the day?

There are high-end Salsa learning groups where elegant professionals like lawyers, doctors, etc go to meet up, dance, sip drinks and socialize.

My brother attended them for a while and met a model who he dated for a short time.

[–]BrownGummyBear5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m Latino. Salsa is not just a nightclub thing lol you can find Salsa classes in the morning and no one would think it’s weird

[–]acoltismypassport9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's basically 101 level TRP LARPing. It has all the memes common to this sub: a salsa club/themed establishment, guy buying roses, an overt and incredibly contrived display of male supplication, and of course OP getting laid in the most typical circumstances ever. The only thing OP left out was the fact that he's jacked, 6'4", and makes 6 figures.

The message is sound, but I really can't be bothered reading the same old half-assed fanfiction on here.

[–]Drawman1217 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've had a bitch who also gets her boyfriend to give her a ride to my home. She told him that i was a close friend of hers. I played along. It made me feel like shit sometimes but "If i don't fuck her, someone else is going to" was my defence.

You need to wake up man, there are married women out there who gets spit roasted by mutual friends of her husband.

There are women out there who gives her husband a dead bedroom, but let their lover to fuck her ass in public.

There are women out there who rape their little brothers.

There are women out there whom are still riding the cock carousel.

And it is not like all of these women are known to be sluts. They may be your catholic neighbours, they may be that cute and naive cashier that u saw last week. They may be that goth girl in your local bar.

You never know. My mom cheated on my dad for example, do you think i would have guessed that shit?

That shit became one of the things which made me realise how shitty and illogical people can be.

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[–]Drawman128 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't really care if the stories here are real or not tbh. As long as they are not giving the wrong message. Some people needs stories, some needs rules, some needs to live and learn.

And some never learn...

[–]Returnofthemack31 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I have stories from my personal life that would seem like fan fiction, I feel like. A lot of girls are fucking savage and cheat without remorse

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most of the time the guy that gets cheated on is a weakling.

[–]babybopp[S] 10 points11 points  (17 children) | Copy

Dude I can have the girl send me a pic of the roses... I am dead serious this happened yesterday. Whether you believe it or not is not really my problem. Been here long enough to know not to post fake shit.. that dude really did send her a bouquet of roses in the restaurant. After that I switched venues because next thing I knew that he might be walking in with a band to propose or some shit like that.

Here is a pic of the rose she left in my couch...

What the fuck benefit do I have to get by making up some shit like this..?

[–]1BlondeHornyElf27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

anyone on here who's been around enough will believe your story.. it's not even a weird story imo. i'll share a weirder story with the same message..

this one time i literally stumbled into a plate's basement apartment while i was partying downtown one night and saw another guy in her bedroom from the kitchen until she shoved me into the washroom and forced him out.. then i fucked her stupid. this chick (a hot blonde university educated chick) literally kicked out some guy she brought to her bedroom becuz she thought i was more sexy or whatever. the brutality of these chicks is off the charts, they give zero fucks about nice guys.

[–]babybopp[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

It is a basic story dunno why someone would think I made this shit up... they seriously don’t give a rats ass about nice guys...

[–]superman1271 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't doubt you but I'm curious why you took her salsa dancing in the middle of the day if it was a done deal already? Personally I never put anywhere near this much effort in for a plate I've already been hooking up with.

[–]babybopp[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude met her at around two pm. Went to salsa around 6pm. Nothing wrong with a night out... I treat my girls good.

[–]1BlondeHornyElf8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

/asktrp guys be like "is having fun beta?"

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[–]1BlondeHornyElf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i had no illusions about it.. she was obviously dating other guys

[–]2Simptopimp-co-uk8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

the guys who think you're lying are the ones who think casual sex is rare because it's not happening to them. ignore

[–]babybopp[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t even understand why someone here would think a gesture of affection to a girl is fake... dude we did that shit before..

[–]Notfuckingcannon6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Appreciation from random strangers online? It's on very high demand these days.

[–]monadyne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The real random strangers online are the friends you make along the way.

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[–]babybopp[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude this fucking shit just happened to me... am not karma whoring. What bothers me is the number of people here that think such a mild story of beta behavior is fake or me karma whoring... I mean seriously!

[–]Returnofthemack30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've heard girls express sentiments like this.

[–]reborn-phoenix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude I had girls saying exact these words to me. If you fuck them good and dont act like a simp they will tell you why they didn’t fuck the beta orbiter and fucked you 2 hours after meeting.

[–]Returnofthemack30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not gonna say I can personally attest to the veracity if his story, but I've seen coworkers get flowers delivered to them by dude's they've just met outside of their own residence. That part isn't entirely ubelievanle

[–]vegeta_bless13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Entire post reads like bad redpill fanfic

[–]xiom009 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The story might be but the message is def true, DONT BE A FLOWER BOY/NICE GUY

[–]bitesizechicken1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Story might be a lie but the concept is true. Multiple people here are able to confirm it

[–]ProFriendZoner3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was a lot of us some years back. That's why we are here. You say she still hasn't fucked him. She won't. I know you know that, just the way you worded it. The sad part is when he realizes she won't he's going to get aggressive and turn her off entirely (as well as scare the shit out of her). I learned a long time ago to let someone else give them the flowers. I just give them to dead people.

[–]TigerTamingSword4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

She left me one rose as I called her an Uber

You should've told her you found that a little creepy

[–]kaikaipanda4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once upon a time, I had raw sex with a girl in her dad's car on our first date, we were pissed drunk so none of us could drive her car back. She told me to go first while she phoned her male bff to come pick her up and send her home. We cut contact after.

Fast forward 3 months later, she had to quit her air stewardess job due to pregnancy.

and she also married that poor dude.

[–]Dudewheresmymoto13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The guys getting getting defensive and angry at the woman here should self-reflect. Like, it's a great advice post. The takeaway shouldn't be wow all girls are sluts fuck them MGTOW for life. If anything, it's made me realize where I've been investing too much in chicks who didn't really care about me. Any effort in a chick thats not invested is worth zero, you may as well throw that shit in the trash like this girl did with this mans flowers. Hell, she even implied that a romantic/good-will gesture was creepy bc she wasn't interested.

A man's romantic expressions (no matter how good/bad) are taken for granted if she does not care for you. I bet Picasso during his simp phase painted a masterpiece for some hoe and she probly gave it to the alpha she was fucking while laughing. Hell, that same alpha could shit on a canvas and give it to her as a "painting" and she would go on to her friends about how "thoughtful" and "deep" it is. Hoes are a bad barometer for artistic expression

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[–]jrr6415sun2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I bought a girl flowers on Valentine’s Day and it drove her emotions crazy, she fucked me that night

[–]N0BadVibez6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where is open for salsa dancing rn lol

[–]MicksPickle6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love how this slut manages to make the guy doing a nice thing out to be a creep when she's actually morally bankrupt, top tier deflection. If she's going to escort herself she may add well charge a few hundred dollars an hour, selling her self cheap for some roses and a bottle of whiskey

[–]lovatoariana4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was the guy with 3 plates spinning(i literally dont even know how… just pure luck) and then chose 1 of them i liked the most for a relationship. After we broke up after 2 years, i just cant get a girlfriend or even a plate for that matter for over 2 years. And i dont know what has changed about me...

Had a few hookups here and there, but nothing even remotely regular. When girls meet me it seems to go smooth, but the more we talk and if i invite them to meet up a few days after, it never goes as i plan.

Feels really weird having sex with 2 girls at the same time when u are 25, and being single for 2 years when ur 28.

[–]stevecapw7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You aren't missing out. Dry spells happen. Focus on yourself, and not "getting" (being burdened with) a gf.

[–]paulkersey19992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

i used to try the flower-sending gambit when i was young and stupid. it NEVER worked and actually had the opposite effect. it makes you look like a needy stalker. it's probably okay AFTER you have fucked her several times, but by then I'm usually looking for the exit.

[–]i_amtheice2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's better to have nothing than be the rose guy.

[–]Mustang10112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I remember some girl had me help her pick out her clothes and then has me walk her to the car of the guy she was going out on a date with. She also made out with a friend of mine. All of that from both of them to teach me some lesson because I was an asshole. Fast forward 10+ yrs. He's still at home with his parents, she's a mom with a shitty job. Lesson learned? Self-value and selfishness. I've never once looked back.

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good guys don't always finish last. Its just not true. But the thing is, a good guy wouldn't be sending her bullshit like flowers. They aren't worth shit. They don't address any significant problem in her life, or the world at large, and they certainly wouldn't support any mission that the man has. They are a waste of resources. It was weak of him to send them; she's right. He's trying to buy her affection by validating and inflating her ego. As we know, this is problematic.

The last thing she needs is more ego and validation. A good man would have compassion for her and cure her of these diseases. A good man wouldn't waste resources while simultaneously being needy and "creepy".

I don't think I need to go on...

[–]drgonzo175 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never be nice if she's hot, if she's not then it's ok to be nice, beautiful people who are also nice are rare and will destroy anything in their path.

[–]RealityBitesU6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every time my interest in this sub is slacking someone comes along with a wonderful self-aggrandizing, half-bullshit pile of autistic drivel camouflaged as life advice.

Simply fantastic.

[–]INNASKILLZ2K184 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's funny, hey?

The longer I went on and internalized red pill teaching, I now see how so much of guy's behaviour is interpreted.

Those flowers and chocolates? Back in the day, I would think that was great. 'Romantic', 'gentleman', blah blah.

Now I know right away that shit is creepy. Why? Because it IS creepy. Sending someone gifts and things because you want them to like you? That whole deal is creepy.

Being straight up, going for what you want, not buying gifts and dinner and other bullshit is cool because it shows you have high self esteem, have a standard, don't buy affection, acceptance or attraction.

Simps and fags hate the dudes who don't do the 'romantic' bullshit. Women love it because it's the opposite of being a creep. .

If it were the other way around, and girls were sending me flowers I can imagine it could be creepy. Like 'ugh...just fucking call me and invite me to do something fun'.

[–]Big_Balla693 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m a nice guy. I get girls whenever the hell u want. It’s not hard to not be an asshole, be a nice guy, and still find quality women. Hell I’d even say I find better women not being a dousche This post is nonsense

[–]Creampieguy4201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

pretty sure the song is nice guys finish last

[–]feeling_ehh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn I remember being the rose guy, crazy to see how far you’ve come since then

[–]maybe_bass1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The red pill is truly the best exemple

Open your dumb eyes

Realize how they are

[–]asvender1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

One thing I have noticed is that everyone here would like to find a situation or hope to be a one, when the chick doesn't care for another guy and cheating on with him. They say this in a informative fashion, but deep down I can sense a huge smile and satisfaction they get to narrate this, the same women tend to brag and compete with each other.

[–]Sickem_roy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m glad my simping days are over

[–]thecarryone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sad. But hey at least we are aware of it, right?

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[–]CharlieDowncast1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A female friend I used to talk to is in her 30's and it was very interesting to observe her through how she would speak. Of course I was her simp, but luckily red pill content made things so clear. She was an alpha widow, allowing no other guy, no matter how nice or sincere, into her life unless they were "the perfect guy". Basically the Disney prince. In a way she's like Tommy Lauren's all men are trash. Yet she continues to fuck this one guy who does not want to commit. While there are other guys that would im sure would want to give her everything.

This post reminded me of her and reminded myself of an old me im trying to kill.

[–]whiteindia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You know, I have an LTR, but I could always go back to this single life just fine.

[–]UndifferentiatedHoe1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

One thing I find crazy is she is OK with doing what she is doing. I wouldn't do that to a chick. Lead her on and use her. Maybe avoid that chick haha

[–]stevecapw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Their perception of reality is such that they don't see it like you or I do.

[–]Bone_Coat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

women have no sense of honour

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn to be fair this guys isn’t really a “good guy” his simply a guy with zero backbone. Being overly investing with someone that you just met will creep them out. The poor dude is probably overweight too.

[–]Fun-Guy210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuuuuuccckkkkkkk Brooooo, thats completely, fucking Utterly FUCKED!!!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You should show all this to the dude simping for her and then ditch her. Watch as she loses her sugar daddy.

[–]lolyups0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

new here, can somebody explain "Plates"? lmao

[–]griz3lda0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He sent her delivery items TO A RESTAURANT? Never heard of such a thing. Yes, that's creepy.

[–]pieredforlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To sum it up, don’t put the pussy on a pedestal

[–]1halfback9100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wait... They... Delivered flowers... To the restaurant?

I am super confused.

[–]erikmalkavian0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You might wanna correct that link to "rose" as oppose to "rise" OP (I thought, "Maybe that's intentional because he was talking about the "rise" of her ASS" :)

but apparently not...

[–]erikmalkavian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you OP for the illustration of the sidebar come to life!

Excellent and more confirmation that The Red Pill is the ONE True Pill!

[–]drv120210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Any advice or links of what I should look into to improve my redpill concentration?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Correction: Unattractive Nice guys finish last

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

She'll probably end up with him once she realizes you can't commit, then you won't be laughing so hard.

[–]blackstreetxy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think that he will be laughing even harder that the other guys is getting is scraps.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let me be the comment you remember one day during your crisis. It is not good to hurt other people for fun.

[–]blackstreetxy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude I feel so sad for the flower boy. Women are savages.

[–]classicliberal10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She comes back with the roses and chocolate... She told me, ”don’t you think this is kinda creepy??!”

Throughout history, a man sending flowers to a woman was considered romantic. Today it's considered creepy. Enough said.

[–]ChrimsonChin9880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like the top comment in the post you linked mentioned; you should only (consider) doing this while already in a relationship. Doing this shit to get laid or get into a ltr means youre socially retarded...

[–]rad_dynamic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Legend, keep on slaying bro

[–]hearse223-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy


The correct phrase is nice guys finish last.

Look up the etymology of the word nice to see why that is.

[–]TrenWarrior-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hahahahahahah, ahhhhh man what a time to be alive... My goal Is to break every single one of these bitches hearts and laugh in there face... The rotation doesn't stop... Fuck and ghost fuck and ghost... My name should’ve been ”Magic” Like Houdini now you see me now you don't...


[–]HeftyNugs4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lmfao this has to be a troll account

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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