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PUA dissection, have you ladies noticed the same thing?

nothing998

March 2, 2021
105 upvotes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy

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Title PUA dissection, have you ladies noticed the same thing?
Author

nothing998

Upvotes 105
Comments 33
Date March 2, 2021 4:53 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/lw6nfs/pua_dissection_have_you_ladies_noticed_the_same/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/pua-dissection-have-you-ladies-noticed-the-same.752585
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[–]SerenaFitPickmeisha™️93 points94 points95 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree with this. Why not just play it fair? Value a woman. Why so much fear of women ? Instead of trying to push a woman down so a man can feel “higher” why don’t these men just concentrate on being better people? We can do this the same way good women do it. Educate yourself. Work hard. Treat people with respect. Don’t cheat. Tell the truth. Show loyalty. Be kind.

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie[S] 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's easier to neg someone than it is to improve. Plus they get inferiority complexes very easily.

[–]helloitsmesatanFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crab in a bucket mentality 👌🏻

[–]sleepysiriFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They don’t see women as humans with thoughts and feelings, worthy of respect and equality.

[–]honeybeerollFDS Disciple31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TRUTH. any man who is so occupied with thinking about how much pussy he can get and how much he's missing out on if he's in a relationship, has got NOTHING going on in his life. These "reformed" guys who want a tradwife type don't care about marriage or being in love. They're now getting up there age-wise, therefore feeling lonely, and realizing the vapid life they lived for the last how ever many years was meaningless and super unfulfilling for their mind and soul. Like wow, what an absolute SHOCKER that valuing sex with as many "hot" women as possible over love, emotional intimacy, and fulfilling deep relationships with women and other human beings would lead to a life of emptiness. Who would've thought that attempting to live life in a constant state bacchanalia could have any negative consequences 🙄

I am sure some former PUAs eventually realized the errors of their ways and made the change to value more fulfilling things and treat women w/ basic human dignity. However, I am sure such cases are few and far between and clearly the OP isn't talking about such guys in their post.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The fact that they even reformed at all is telling. Men never change unless there is a massive personal loss to their own quality of life. PUA lifestyle probably unraveled into other dark mess.

[–]EarthKveikFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's a coincidence that many of them also bought into the idea that they could spend their 20s and 30s utterly devoted to their careers and then catch up on the rest of their lives in their 40s and 50s. Now they're waking up to the fact that they don't have much in the way to show for their efforts, and the women they thought they'd have their pick of have better options and know it.

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree overall, but I have to quibble a bit. I don't think the manosphere guys ever valued women, or will value women in any way, which I think she's about 98% of the way to understanding. I also don't think most women turned into thots, but the few thots who exist are highly visible thanks to men obsessing over them.

She's right, the men who grew up with proto-manosphere crap have started to turn 40. They thought they would be playboys until 35-40, then snatch up a teen trophy bride. Their high paying miracle jobs didn't happen, the teen trophy bride won't happen, and they spent their adulthoods turning the women their ages into emotionally exhausted divorcees who never even got married.

Of course these users want to create a revisionist history, and pretend that women were all eternal party girls, who turned them down. Women did come out ahead, though. These men would never have been good husbands.

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[–]nothing998FDS Newbie[S] 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I already hear them coping by saying once they reach middle age they'll have their pick of thousands of young bachelorettes...

Another awakening is on the horizon lol.

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[–]coolestgirlyouevermeFDS Apprentice49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think this is pretty insightfull.

The part about looking for commitment in the early 2010s spoke to me. I was in a relationship then with a guy who was by society's standards physically unattractive, short, no style, and even had a somewhat disagreeable personality, but I truly loved him, thought he was intelligent, and wanted to get married, have kids, the whole white picket fence thing. I was in my early 20s and only dated two other guys before him. I had multiple people comment why I was dating him because of this less than ideal qualities....

Anyways, this f*cker wanted to "play the field." When a single opportunity to cheat presented itself to him, he took it. I dumped him immediately. He wanted to stay friends explaining that he just wanted experience dating "more women." I blocked him out of my life.

Years later I heard from some mutual friends some things about how his life turned out: got cheated on himself, not much success dating, depression, crippling debt, and unemployment.

If he was influenced but the PUA movement, then honestly it did me a favor because I'm free instead of married to a lvm.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

years later I heard about how his life turned out

Wow, I loved reading that paragraph. Thank you.

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so true.

[–]Throwawayrightaway28FDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is gospel.

[–]HeavyMetalLobsterFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahahahaha holy wow. They figured it out

[–]ReignOnYou9540 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"her personality (how submissive or naive she is)." And thats what they think womens personalities are. This post is spot on.

[–]burpleseaurchinFDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Explains the rising number of pedos as well. Swear to god there are just hordes of men who, if they were born in a time period where they weren't coddled and they were expected to provide literally ANY value, they wouldn't be such creepy pedophilic coomers. They would've ended up at least marginally better and probably succeeded enough to get a girlfriend/wife their own age.

[–]greenbagmaria35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Men are less sexually valuable” actually if you think about it, it goes beyond that, they actually normally give negative value to a woman’s life historically by way of impregnating her and thus, making her less mobile (more prone to dying in every way imaginable).

So men really need to bring a lot to the table in order to offset that very big negative thing they do to us (historically, now not so much anymore but still) just to bring them to zero level status, never mind high value status.

The absolute audacity of these incels to think they would end up with any woman at all...

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’ve absolutely noticed this. I’ve dated a couple of aesthetically challenged nerds who seemed nice enough (that was where the bar has been lowered) at first. But once they realized I was giving them an actual shot, they started doing weird PUA stuff that turned me off. It’s like they just couldn’t leave well enough alone. A hot woman is giving you a chance. Be kind. Simple. Honestly, they screw themselves out of sex 99.9% of the time.

[–]coolestgirlyouevermeFDS Apprentice20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's why I don't buy their whole "she didn't look at me twice in my youth, and now that I'm a successful 40+yo she's messaging me" trope.

In my late teens/early 20s, I did give ugly nerds a chance. I did give nice guys a chance. I did the whole coolgirl thing. Quite pathetic.

But it was never enough for them. The grass was always greener. They wanted experience dating more women. One of them even told me his plan was to find someone 10+ years younger than him once he's older. The greed.

I wish I knew then what I know now.

[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aesthetically challenged!! I love it 😂😂

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Interesting read. Notice it took the guys one decade to reform. It makes sense, try tried all the pua garbage in their 20s and 30s and then got old and realized it’s not where it’s at. I think this will happen to the incel/redpill/mgtow men. Don’t be there to catch them in their come to jesus moment.

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I am so excited to see the reckoning. These idiots cost me my fertility window with their avoidant bullshit.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Gynecologists and online research points to the fact that 40+ is the age to worry about fertility. Having kids in your thirties is still fine.

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I had a window, though. There was a time when I was open and ready to meet The Guy, get married, and pregnant. I was receptive, active, and did all the things the “experts” say you should do. I met so many men during this period, and they thought I was just wonderful, but they just didn’t want the same thing...with me. They mostly managed to get married and/or knock up the women they met after me. I had so many breakups with decent guys over the baby thing, too, and I can’t even have one now. I know it’s popular to turn an unplanned pregnancy into a relationship, but I don’t want that. I know it’s popular to meet and get pregnant and cohabitate in under six months. I don’t want that, either. I want a courtship period of reasonable length to properly vet each other, leading into marriage. I don’t have the privilege of “let’s just see where it goes”. I wasted my mid-30s on that energy. Men aged 35-39 do not commit to women the same age. It’s a wasteland. If I were 31 or 32, I could easily find a 37-year-old willing to get married and have a baby with me. Men my age who want kids think I’m too old, because I don’t have 3-4 years to dick around while they decide if they want to commit or not. I’ve actually had men match with me on OLD just to try to change my mind about seeking marriage and kids. I’m seeing women my age who don’t want either having it just fall into their laps. So maybe that was the key? All these years instead of being emotionally available, I should’ve been all “Marriage is just a piece of paper and I don’t want kids” and some guy would’ve knocked me up and proposed on the same day. That’s what my FB feed looks like, anyway.

I have no desire to be pregnant, recovering from pregnancy, or changing diapers in my 40s. Nor do I want to go through pregnancy, birth, postpartum, etc as a single woman so sperm bank is out. COVID has now taken a second year of precious dating/fertility time away from me. So my time really is up, I’m afraid. I’m distracting myself with hobbies and travel. It ain’t much, but it’s honest work. Maybe I’ll get my picket fence in the next lifetime.

[–]GlamorKissFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

woAh 😦 that was a roller coaster

[–]TheFinalGirl_21FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And how!😩

[–]meanemadFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A girl who is 31 should not either use 4 years waiting for a man to decide if he will marry her or not. Dont feel yourself less than a 31/32. I waited from 26 to 29 for boyfriend to decided and i dumped him, he was doubting yet. I should have not wait more than 1,5 years. My husband proposed in 9 months.

[–]Sparrow_143FDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was the memorizing Dane Cook jokes & claiming them as their own that did it for me

[–]justforfdsFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For years, they trained themselves to pump and dump. Nothing more, nothing less. After years, pump and dump is delivered to them. Nothing more, nothing less, until they're not fit to pump.

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