He did not say 2% if women, he intended to mean 2% of firefighters. In which, it is not false to say 98% are men.
Like yeah, women can do whatever a man can do with enough practice, it is just easier to get to that level as a man due to how muscles grow and improve.
They’re animals, there’s nothing you can say to appease them at this point. Reddit is a fickle beast. They see someone getting downvoted and everyone eagerly joins in because they enjoy inflicting pain on other people, whether they like to admit it or not
This is an actual issue in Chicago at least. I’m born and raised in this city and found it increasingly difficult to get a job with the fire department. Every time I applied it seemed like they preferred to hire 21-26 year old white men from outside Chicago and there was even a massive lawsuits that the courts ruled in favor that has made the city pay out in over 100 million for discrimination. You all might think that it’s being blown out of proportion but this is a serious issue when Chicago Fire Department is 80% white meanwhile the city itself is less than 30% white. The department should be an actual representation of the city.
That’s just the racial part of the problem the toxic masculinity and the sexist hiring is a whole other issue.
It’s fine I wouldn’t expect you to understand how being discriminated against and it being twice as harder to get a job because they only want a certain type of person.
Also trust me. A lot of them only make it up one floor before their fatasses give out and have to go back. We see it all the time. You wouldn’t know because you’re not there.
yep, put the best people forward. somehow theres more white men who are strong enouh to be fit for the job, its weird why that ius but thats hoq it is. Lets say 20 black people and 20 white people (bare with me) sign up to be Firefighters, but out of those numbers 19 of the whiote people were just shit, like go home and have a beer or something, but the black people were fairly good. Why put people's lives at risk by bringing on unqualified people? like tf
The article mentioned that openly gay men could potentially face social exclusion. Extending that idea, if the reason that white men are disproportionately prevalent is that non-white men are facing social exclusion or higher scrutiny when working as firemen, I think that qualifies as a problem. Something similiar may occur for physically capable women.
I posted this comment on another thread. We’re applying they just don’t want too many of us. Just good Chicago Fire Department discrimination and you’ll see all the articles.
I’m a paramedic in Chicago and a person of color at that. It’s not dependent on us to change it as plenty of black and brown folks as well as women want to work for the city. The old guard just prefers to hire the children or other white men from out of the city. I’m born and raised in Chicago and it took me 10 years to get on and right before I started the academy they pulled a “you’re too obese” medical issue on me. I ended up being skipped and almost not getting on at all. Turns out they did that to quite a few of us and as soon as they heard we had contacted a lawyer the immediately informed us we would be in the next class. For the record I’m in shape and have a muscular build from working out 6-7 days a week. Half the white men in the academy all had massive beer bellies and looked like aging high school football players who really let themselves go.
Try being a person of color in a fire house that’s predominantly old white fireman who try very hard to keep it that way. Or even better try googling Chicago Fire Department discrimination and you’ll have your answer.
I wouldn’t assume that the majority aren’t racist. I’ve not been to every firehouse in America but I’ll tell you it’s the same issue with the police department not hiring people of color.
I see posts like this all the time on this thread - I get why, it's mens rights - but are there really so many stupid people out there? I am totally dumbfounded by it.
Who in their right mind thinks a public statement that is sexist and racist is an acceptable thing to do - let alone a good thing? How does she not realise she is comming across as an idiot. An Idiot for creating needless divide. An idiot for being Sexist. An idiot for being racist and an idiot for plain ole' saying dumb things.
Lauren Chen - you're the problem, not the colour or gender of a firefighter you horrid, idiot wretch.
Sorry about the pointless rant but that useless Chen bint got me with this one! Happy monday y'all!
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Or how about calling a woman firefighter a firewoman?
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No, but much more men can do it than women. It's basic biology.
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He did not say 2% if women, he intended to mean 2% of firefighters. In which, it is not false to say 98% are men.
Like yeah, women can do whatever a man can do with enough practice, it is just easier to get to that level as a man due to how muscles grow and improve.
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Whoa boy. I can sense the salt coming from you. Losing that 1 karma must of really hurt your E-Penis. Grow up.
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They’re animals, there’s nothing you can say to appease them at this point. Reddit is a fickle beast. They see someone getting downvoted and everyone eagerly joins in because they enjoy inflicting pain on other people, whether they like to admit it or not
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This is an actual issue in Chicago at least. I’m born and raised in this city and found it increasingly difficult to get a job with the fire department. Every time I applied it seemed like they preferred to hire 21-26 year old white men from outside Chicago and there was even a massive lawsuits that the courts ruled in favor that has made the city pay out in over 100 million for discrimination. You all might think that it’s being blown out of proportion but this is a serious issue when Chicago Fire Department is 80% white meanwhile the city itself is less than 30% white. The department should be an actual representation of the city.
That’s just the racial part of the problem the toxic masculinity and the sexist hiring is a whole other issue.
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Lolol
It’s fine I wouldn’t expect you to understand how being discriminated against and it being twice as harder to get a job because they only want a certain type of person.
Also trust me. A lot of them only make it up one floor before their fatasses give out and have to go back. We see it all the time. You wouldn’t know because you’re not there.
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yep, put the best people forward. somehow theres more white men who are strong enouh to be fit for the job, its weird why that ius but thats hoq it is. Lets say 20 black people and 20 white people (bare with me) sign up to be Firefighters, but out of those numbers 19 of the whiote people were just shit, like go home and have a beer or something, but the black people were fairly good. Why put people's lives at risk by bringing on unqualified people? like tf
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Rather nice thing for Lauren to say :)
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How is the police more prone to error?
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How can they go wrong? Because sometimes violence is the only way and people don't respect authority?
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The article mentioned that openly gay men could potentially face social exclusion. Extending that idea, if the reason that white men are disproportionately prevalent is that non-white men are facing social exclusion or higher scrutiny when working as firemen, I think that qualifies as a problem. Something similiar may occur for physically capable women.
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I posted this comment on another thread. We’re applying they just don’t want too many of us. Just good Chicago Fire Department discrimination and you’ll see all the articles.
I’m a paramedic in Chicago and a person of color at that. It’s not dependent on us to change it as plenty of black and brown folks as well as women want to work for the city. The old guard just prefers to hire the children or other white men from out of the city. I’m born and raised in Chicago and it took me 10 years to get on and right before I started the academy they pulled a “you’re too obese” medical issue on me. I ended up being skipped and almost not getting on at all. Turns out they did that to quite a few of us and as soon as they heard we had contacted a lawyer the immediately informed us we would be in the next class. For the record I’m in shape and have a muscular build from working out 6-7 days a week. Half the white men in the academy all had massive beer bellies and looked like aging high school football players who really let themselves go.
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Try being a person of color in a fire house that’s predominantly old white fireman who try very hard to keep it that way. Or even better try googling Chicago Fire Department discrimination and you’ll have your answer.
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I wouldn’t assume that the majority aren’t racist. I’ve not been to every firehouse in America but I’ll tell you it’s the same issue with the police department not hiring people of color.
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I see posts like this all the time on this thread - I get why, it's mens rights - but are there really so many stupid people out there? I am totally dumbfounded by it.
Who in their right mind thinks a public statement that is sexist and racist is an acceptable thing to do - let alone a good thing? How does she not realise she is comming across as an idiot. An Idiot for creating needless divide. An idiot for being Sexist. An idiot for being racist and an idiot for plain ole' saying dumb things.
Lauren Chen - you're the problem, not the colour or gender of a firefighter you horrid, idiot wretch.
Sorry about the pointless rant but that useless Chen bint got me with this one! Happy monday y'all!
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