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“007 Can Be A LADY” – Says JAMES BOND Producer Barbara Broccoli.

Imnotmrabut

July 31, 2017
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Title “007 Can Be A LADY” – Says JAMES BOND Producer Barbara Broccoli.
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Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 22
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Date July 31, 2017 9:38 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6qnd27/007_can_be_a_lady_says_james_bond_producer/
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[+]game_r1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Translation: 007 can be a flop

[–]ThatNinaGAL 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

007 skillset with the Mata Hari advantage?

That could work.

I really liked Angelina Jolie in Salt.

[–]mrwhibbley 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, because it's working out so well for all the other gender swap characters. Snow White can be a man. So can Superman.

[–]cymrich 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

superman IS a man... also, there are already multiple female equivalents of superman... super girl, super woman, and power girl.

[–]mrwhibbley 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It autocorrected from super-woman. Even my iPhone is sexist! /s

[–]cymrich 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

gotta love autocorrect...

[–]mrwhibbley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Today I texted my mother "Do you like the canal" in reference to the cape cod canal. But instead I asked her "Do you like the anal?"

[–]cymrich 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol... and what did she reply?

[–]ThePigmanAgain 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What she really said is "Nothing belongs to men."

[–]cymrich 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this is what I tried saying when the next dr who was revealed to be a woman... I was called petty and childish, and on this sub in particular was essentially told I give MRAs a bad name. I even mentioned that they were looking at james bond next...

[–]ThePigmanAgain 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know what you mean. I was very disappointed by this sub when i posted this a couple of weeks ago...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6npaz6/doctor_who_gets_a_sex_change/

[–]fengpi 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Hey, here's an idea... since Bond is a Double-O Agent, why not simply have a female Double-O Agent who doesn't replace the character Bond? You know, same universe, report to M, get equipment from Q, all of that rot.

A "female Bond" would basically be a parasitic enterprise, as if an original female character wouldn't cut the mustard.

[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

They have all the double 0 agents, but the only one we care about is 007. For all we know, 002 is a woman...

[–]Truth_Himself 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

005 was the main villain in GoldenEye I believe. Its not unheard of for other agents to have roles in the plots of bond movies. A team-up with a female 004 agent for one movie isnt a terrible idea in my opinion. If people like her enough after that, she can have her own movie.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There have been a few where another double-O ends-up dead in the first 5 minutes. 2 come to mind: Octopussy (he gets knifed), the Living Daylights (he gets dropped off the side of Gibraltar.)

[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Sure, but I doubt there would be a threat big enough to warrant 2 double 0 agents...

[–]Truth_Himself 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Okay, they send in James to finish the mission of an agent who died... only to find out she wasnt really dead. Now there are two on the case

[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But they thought the one on the case was dead... so again, they wouldn't have sent in James if they didn't think the original agent needed to be replaced. And because there are now 2 agents in the field at the location, it makes sense to have them work together to clean it up faster.

The point is that they won't assign 2 agents. Using 2 in the event they are both in the area is just good SOP.

[–]Truth_Himself 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A lot of these movies involve world destabilizing plots and the potential deaths of millions of people. Also, James has a near death experience quite regularly. Why would it be unheard of to send two agents just to make sure they both make it back?

[–]Mr_MRAnarchist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From a spy/ espionage angle.. perhaps not. They would probably send a 00 agent and an assistant of some type... they've done it before, but only one of them has the "license to kill" and that agent calls the shots.

[–]Truth_Himself 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like Eva Green in Casino Royale.

James and 005 were working together at the beginning of Goldeneye when Travylen (sp?) "died"

[–]contractor808 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know right? It's like replacing characters in 50 Shades of Grey. Just make your own thing ffs

[–]ThatNinaGAL 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

50 Shades started off as Twilight fanfic. No, really.

[–]Leinadro 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is what most of these gender swaps of established characters are motivated by.

The idea that female characters cant build a following of their own so they must take over established male characters as if they were just given a following.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nancy Drew can be a GENTLEMAN.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Hardy Girls and the Nancy Boys.

[–]bakedpotato486 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Super Woman can be a MAN.... Right?

[–]fengpi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not have the Virgin Mary and Lot's Wife be played by men?

[–]sample_size_of_on1 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Technicaly, yeah, sure, why not?

Good luck with that money thing though. Feminism is awesome and all that till investors fail to get a return....

[–]mikesteane 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Part of the James Bond allure, for those who like this stuff, is that he is a hit with the ladies without making any effort. This, rather large, factor of his image will not work in reverse. Obviously. And I question the intelligence and common sense of someone who is a producer and cannot see this.

[–]DonkeyWindBreaker 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unless they inverse it.

Meet Jane Bond. She is the best spy ever, but men will never touch her.

[–]boringcarpets 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So kinda like that one with Melissa McCarthy

[–]rg57 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe 007 is a lady, but she won't be doing her own stunts...

Just ask The Guardian

Craig, too, got his fair share of cuts, bruises and black eyes, and at one point sliced off the top of a finger

[–]Burninglegion65 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With that logic 007 can be a dog

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I suppose the female Jane Bond will have to bed a young, virile stud. Maybe they can name him ... Chad Thundercock .. who bangs Jane Bond with his Thunderballs.

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/M1E2M

[–]Nezborn02 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WTF IS THIS. the name is Bond, JAMES Bond. Most famous for winning over women and foiling evil plans. The whole character falls apart if James turns into a woman

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

http://www.staresattheworld.com/2013/11/reality-fails-the-bechdel-test/

Show an Autist Feminist Goldfinger, and it will see the blatant sexualization of Pussy Galore, driving it to complain that Sean Connery wasn’t wearing the same outfit as he was in Zardoz...

Like the Histrionic Pod People they are, they utterly fail to realize that James Bond is just as sexualized of a character as Pussy Galore is.

  • Expensive suit

  • Fast Car

  • Cool and indifferent demeanor

  • Collection of guns

  • Army of worker drones under him

Men want to be him, women want to be with him; swap the sexual pronouns, and the same thing goes for Pussy Galore. “Good Lord, in a sexually dimorphous species, the two sexes have different attraction triggers?” Yes; yes they do.

http://takimag.com/article/the_tragedy_of_doctor_who_gavin_mcinnes/print

Unfortunately, “equality” today is about taking away the one magic power women have in real life and replacing it with becoming a fictional badass. I don’t get it.

Those of us who value women and their gift don’t like to see them throw it away. Our suspension of disbelief doesn’t allow us to enjoy them beating the crap out of six Green Berets, either. Nerds like it, but these people masturbate to cartoons. Fuck them. The only group that truly enjoys this bizarre universe is feminist spinsters with an ax to grind.

[–]shloopyy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nerds like it

Not judging by Kotakuinaction they don't.

[–]Blunderfool 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd like to know wtf is wrong with masturbating to cartoons? It's not as if I can have actual sex with the cartoons. Really then masturbating to cartoons is more normal than to real people. I can get real people, so that's just laziness.

[–]DonkeyWindBreaker 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say it's more like women and their dirty romance novels/fifty shades of grey. They masturbate to fiction, why can't men?

[–]Tedesche 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, there's no reason why 007 can't be female for one film.

There's also no reason why someone couldn't, say, come up with an entirely original female spy character, rather than riding on the coattails of a successful male character, but...if producers don't think female characters will draw enough of an audience, and need a male character's success just to get a hit, I suppose Bond should give one to the ladies, who clearly can't do it themselves.

[–]boringcarpets 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're all just Lisa Simpson irl. They're just saying stuff for a reaction, to "freak people out", not because they actually want it or think it would be a good movie or story.

Again though, the idea is to take an existing property and subvert it rather than create, because any failure can be blamed on sexism and they don't have to have their ideas stand on their own legs.

The thing that annoys me most is that they think we're offended with the gender bent character or women in films, the assumption that we'd object as if we are like some stuffy mustachioed men with brandy and cigars who won't stand for it. I don't really care, I'm not offended, is just rather they made their own stories with characters that stand on their own merits (films, games, comics etc) instead of relying on all this false hysteria and buzz

[–]v574v 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true, but will women still agree to watch it?

Will men be able to convince their wives and girlfriends to see a competent female lead in an action movie or is it easier if it's a handsome physically fit male?

[–]SchmidtytheKid 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jamie Bond?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The gender nonspecific version

[–]HiilestTehtyAffena 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mata Hari could be a man.

[–]CynixCS 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A feminist 007 flick...

Where Jessie Bond fucks some black 20 year old adonis guys, blows shit up, kills the white racist fascist Trump-suporting evil mastermind and then, together with Dr No, lectures men about how it's rape to scratch their thunderballs while putting their golden guns into a woman's octopussy unless they had goldfingered her first.

[–]BlindGardener 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I liked the idea that "James Bond" was a codename, and that they'd off the older "James Bond" as soon as he became counter productive, and the movie idea with Sean Connrey as the enemy... the old James Bond who caught wind of the idea.

Can you imagine a young, female, womanizing and heavily drinking James Bond, still juiced from her recent successes in the agency confronting her older predecessor, then having to go back to confront her agency because he was right?

Can you imagine her rich voice saying "My name is Bond. James bond". Because her codename would still be a male name, even though she was female? People would go crazy trying to analze the subtext XD

[–]VaguelyFamiliarMan -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard other people float the notion that 007 was more or less a job title and James Bond was a code name. That all of the movies are cannon but canonically every time they change out actors it is a different man being posted to the position.

It works for me. It's the only way that they could explain a female Bond.

A lot more things should be handled like The Phantom. The Phantom can be used to tell any story from any time period ranging from the 1700s to the distant future. The mythos of the character is that it is always the same man, the ghost who walks, but behind the mask it's a different guy every few years because it's passed down through the Walker bloodline with every new generation trained to do the job. Sometimes there are decade plus long gaps because The Phantom might get killed when his kid is still a toddler or he might not have a kid at all and his brother, nephew, or cousin might have to step up but it is always just a matter of time before a Walker descendant is located and trained by a Guran descendant. You could never have a woman be The Phantom though because it would destroy the pretense of supernatural immortality that was deliberately built up and maintained by the Walker family for hundreds of years. It's clearly not been the same guy all this time if The Phantom is suddenly a woman.

[–]guntermench43 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, technically it IS a code name and can be either, but it wouldn't be James Bond.

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