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Gawker media on men vs. Gawker media on women. A double standard we cannot be ok with.

druiz1

March 22, 2016
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Title Gawker media on men vs. Gawker media on women. A double standard we cannot be ok with.
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druiz1

Upvotes 1526
Comments 76
Date March 22, 2016 2:44 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4bfntg/gawker_media_on_men_vs_gawker_media_on_women_a/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/gawker-media-on-men-vs-gawker-media-on-women-a.953534
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[–]Blitzsturm 115 points116 points117 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I was so happy to see this judgement come down. I don't for a moment expect to see them see their own hypocrisy or question themselves... But the $115m kick in the ass may make them at least think twice in the future.

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[–]Deefry 39 points40 points41 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their insurance is all tapped out, due in no small part to the bloody nose Operation Disrespectful Nod gave them.

[–]dejour 22 points23 points24 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah $140 million is more than a kick in the ass. It's possibly a fatal blow.

There will be an appeal though. And even if they lose that, there will be another group taking over the companies, so there is likely a future in some form.

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[–]Esco91 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I've read that has a $50m cap, so they will have to cough up $50m of it before appeal.

[–]account4august2014 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a demand for the medium still unfortunate. Another will take it a place. I'm hoping the supporters of this outrage/victim culture succeed in making online bullying illegal and they lose all their own platforms for all their hate speech.

[–]osborn18 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

buzzfeed is already the new gawker.

[–]Syn7axError 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The punative damages are 25 million.

[–]Kodiak01 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A big chunk of those damages are assessed personally against the owner and editor as well, not the corporate entity.

[–]TheWardylan[🍰] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hulk coming off the top rope piercing the corporate veil!!!

[–]Alkomb 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha, yeah. Couldn't have said that better, myself.

[–]TopKekSkye 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus another 25M in damages just dropped

[–]MedayekMan 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus another 25 million

[–]Just--a--Person 82 points83 points84 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

As we watch Gawker slowly burn we won't cry. We will have a fucking BBQ.

[–]knownaim 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't want to cook anything over that burning pile of trash.

[–]Just--a--Person 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure? I reckon it would add a smoky and salty taste to items.

[–]sapper11d 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

yes salty, salty delicious tears...

[–]dcvngtn3 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I need a coffee mug that says, "Women's tears" so I can drink the saltiness.

[–]Mythandros 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lowering yourself to "their" level is the wrong course of action. It makes you seem petty and immature. Besides, tears are disgusting. I prefer tea.

[–]dcvngtn3 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the point I was making with my comment

[–]jimmywiddle 46 points47 points48 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I am hoping it sinks them, they are a vile website and someone mentioned that they had links to Jezebel as well ??

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just found this out, this is a win!

[–]Just--a--Person 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it goes down then it takes all the parts with it. Unless it gets split and sold off.

[–]jonathon8903 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The only thing I am going to hate from this is that it may bring Lifehacker also. I never went to any of their other sites, but occasionally Lifehacker had some interesting articles.

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[–]FIVE-ONE-THREE 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yup, i absolutely refuse to support Gawker Media in any way, im hoping Gizmodo, Lifehacker, and Jalopnik are spun off or bought by a company that is less garbage

[–]ClutchCity88 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll add Deadspin in there for us sports fans

[–]TheSeanis 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be crazy. They'll tank, and then someone will just buy their brand and keep pumping garbage out.

[–]Herelam 30 points31 points32 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it's a good thing we won't be dealing with this anymore from Gawker.

[–]DukeMaximum 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the plus side, a court just agreed and awarded Hulk Hogan $140 million.

[–]theDarkAngle 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

"Here is why we are refusing to comply". What was their explanation? I'm just curious.

[–]sapper11d 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

it was something like "mr hogan chose to brag about his sexual life in the media and sought this type of spotlight."

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So clearly he was asking for it. /s

[–]SirPeterODactyl 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He was dressed provocatively

[–]Esco91 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet he ripped his shirt off too, the dirty minx.

[–]Atheist101 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that and "We disagree with the Judge who was appointed by Bush (Gawker was all like lol fuck Bush )

[–]speedisavirus 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Don't have much to worry about when they pay out the $115+ million they will be bankrupt

[+]shbro1 -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

You do realise this will never actually happen, right?

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[–]shbro1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Among other things, yes...

[–]chmbrs 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Ya. That money doesn't actually exist without selling the business, and there will be appeals. It still sends a strong message.

[–]shbro1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That money doesn't actually exist without selling the business

The judgement is against the business, so on-selling the liability which comes with the business won't help. The only individual judgements are against Denton and the former editor (?) and these respective amounts are only for a fraction of the overall amount awarded.

and there will be appeals

Oh, yes! There most certainly will be.

It still sends a strong message.

$60 million for emotional distress and $55 million for economic damages? It sends a strong message about using juries to determine damages in civil trials, I suppose. More broadly? I agree that it raises important issues about the right to privacy, and how the machinations of the media can affect the average individual's claim to such, if it it's even recognised by the claimant's local judiciary, which it may well not be.

Still, in a pinch, there is always defamation law to fall back on, along with actionable breach of confidence, plus whatever criminal sanctions may apply.

What was the strong message you got from this case, barely nascent as it currently is?

[–]chmbrs 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The message is that hulkimaniacs aren't to be messed with.

I think it sends a message about privacy. It is ridiculous that because your career puts you in the public spotlight that you give up your right to privacy. It is such a shockingly high number that it is getting a lot of publication.

[–]shbro1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The message is that hulkimaniacs aren't to be messed with.

Haha! Is Terry Bollea the ultimate Hulkimaniac?

The 'right' to privacy only exists if your jurisdiction recognises it, and allows for legal action against those who breach it. Celebrities' stock in trade is their willingness to forgo their privacy, at least in certain circumstances.

The accepted role of the media is to seek out, and disseminate information about the world, truthfully above all else. There is no indication here that Gawker were knowingly, or even actually publishing untruthful material about Terry. The sex tape footage was legit, they just published it without Terry's (or his lady partner's, presumably) consent.

There are truths, and there are truths, but did Gawker really need to publish this one in particular? Probably not. It's their business model to cash in on salacious material, however, so really Terry's $60M worth of emotional distress was simply the cost of Gawker doing business... as usual.

Yes, it's a grubby business, but should their practices be curtailed by nerfing the profession of journalism across the board? And, for what? The exquisitely precious (read: expensive) feelings of a bombastic, larger than life, retired celebrity wrestler?

My tentative opinion on the crux of the issue here is that any judicial action taken against either corporate or individual entities should be instigated under the provisions of the relevant local criminal law. Leaving this stuff to be fought out by civilians skews the landscape, primarily because only extremely wealthy civilians have the means to initiate and/or defend legal action in such matters.

The criminal law is (should absolutely fucking be) blind to the relative socio-economic status of the opposing parties. If the feelings of one ex-wrestler can be injured to the tune of $60M by a breach of privacy, shouldn't the circumstances leading to such a devastating injury be prevented from befalling any other citizen, too? Shouldn't such deleterious actions by citizens against one another be proscribed outright?

I mean, sure, Terry can mop up his voluminous tears with $100 bills from the suitcase of money Gawker is totally one day going to deliver to him, but what about the rest of us chumps? We may not be able to afford the extensive legal representation Terry is, but don't we deserve justice if our privacy is breached, also?

If your answer is, 'not if you cant afford it', then don't bother reading this comment, because I wrote it with the assumption that you were genuinely interested in the judicious application of the salient common law principles. :P

[–]chmbrs 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think it should be criminal as well. That doesn't mean that someone can't also pursue it civilly. The Hulkster has a lot more to lose from this kind of thing than I do.

I also think that the price that a lawyer can charge should be limited as well but that is a whole other debate.

Specific to this sub it sends a message about men and women. The same media told us that J-law's nude photos are the same as rape, but Bieber's nob is fair game, and The Hulk's private wrestling sessions are for the world to see.

[–]shbro1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Specific to this sub it sends a message about men and women. The same media told us that J-law's nude photos are the same as rape, but Bieber's nob is fair game, and The Hulk's private wrestling sessions are for the world to see.

Now we're getting to the nuts and bolts of this submission. Did the 'same media' really tell us that J-Law was effectively raped because her nude pics were released without her consent? Do you have a handy source for this contention, please?

I honestly haven't heard much about Bieber's nob, either. Was a picture of said nob clandestinely retrieved from his iCloud account, which was hacked for the express purpose of obtaining unauthorised access to his private phone data, which happened to include his nob selfies that were promptly uploaded to 4chan?

If so, then that, of course, sucks.

Ditto, Terry's bedroom exploits, I suppose, except I am genuinely disinterested in laying my eyes upon any such footage, even if just to give myself the willies. Nevertheless, I agree that he shouldn't have to put up a fight to either stop, or get removed, the offending footage from unauthorised publishers.

[–]speedisavirus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You realize that even if it's not the some $145 million they are now in for it will still be near 9 figures right?

[–]ReasoningButToErr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are getting downvoted, but I have heard of this problem of companies not paying out court ordered sums, because it is poorly enforced, you can't just jail all Gawker employees if Gawker does not pay, etc. I need to look into it more. Do you have any relevant sources on this?

[–]shbro1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not well apprised of the material facts of the case, but the amount awarded is surprisingly large, as per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_damages#United_States. $140 million seems like Monopoly money here, it's so excessive. I expect that the appeals court will overturn the trial court's initial decision.

Looked a tiny bit deeper, and the plot does indeed thicken: http://gawker.com/the-hogan-verdict-1766460791. Yes, this is Gawker's own response to the verdict, but that doesn't mean it's without merit. The points raised are extremely salient, and only further my belief that the original verdict is far, far from the end of this matter.

[–]Wargame4life 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone needs to print up some "Gawker's tears" mugs and send photos to the jezebel staff of them drinking out of them :)

[–]speakingofsegues 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please do this.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gawker is a sinking ship at this point.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

on the bottom right, i get that the porn site was being a bunch of assholes claiming she needed to prove she owned the copyright "of her own naked body." but in general, just because someone takes a photo of you, it does not mean you own the copyright. if that was the case every celebrity could sue paparazzi for taking pictures of them.

while it was obvious that the photos were stolen, i still find it funny that the author used such a weak argument just appealing to ignorance of copyright laws and emotion. the author is probably the type of person who screams at anyone filming her in public claiming its illegal to film her without her consent.

HER OWN BODY, ITS HER BODY! HER BODY HER CHOICE... /s

[–]chmbrs 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You are right. Most people think that they own their likeness AND everything that comes from it, but they don't. It varies state to state, province to province but generally you can take a picture of anyone you want in public, or on private property as long as there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. The photo belongs to the photographer. You can however, sue the photographer if it is used commercially.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not if that commercial use is itself protected by fair use or another doctrine, which is how paparazzi get away with it. They sell the picture, which they own, to a paper. The paper uses it in a story ostensibly related to the public figure, and bam, the public figure doesn't get any say in it at all.

[–]chmbrs 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya. It can get pretty complicated.

[–]The_0bserver 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why bother? Gawker is Dead. :P

[–]GoldenGonzo 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like I've seen this posted half a dozen times, come on now.

Is this gonna become our "TIL Steve Bushemi was a firefighter during 9/11"?

[–]alkatrazjr 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos

[–]fizzyizzy11 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there a difference between Jezebel and Gawker?

[–]TheoreticalFunk 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure they'll cover things differently after the Hulk strolls in and takes over.

[–]GeekofFury 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As for Gawker, I read an article suggesting that the company would sink if they had to pay out $115 million. I hope they do.

[+][deleted] -10 points-9 points-8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, nobody else has posted this meme 15 other times. How original!

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully the lawsuit sets a precedent for these kinds of companies getting punished for such behavior (at least at the monetary level, $115m is a lot of dough)

[+]Tankh -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy agrees

[+]rg57 -41 points-40 points-39 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

To be clear, I think in both cases, nobody should be punished by the law for publishing these pictures/videos. They are true things that happened.

I haven't seen the tape, but if people are really that clueless about how actual people have actual sex, maybe we all need to see more of it.

Anyway, if a company is going to be punished, it's appropriate that it is one steeped in hypocrisy and bigotry.

[–]locks_are_paranoid 24 points25 points26 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

nobody should be punished

So, are you saying you'd be ok with a person recording you having sex and posting it on the internet without your knowledge or consent?

I assume the answer is no, this is why tabloids need to be punished.

[+]drumstyx -16 points-15 points-14 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That assumes some random taped these things. More often than not it's someone not thinking about the security of their stuff. Texting things willy-nilly.

Basically, depends on the source of such data.

[–]Pussycatpurr 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So because they misplaced their trust or something got leaked by accident, they deserve to be punished?

[–]locks_are_paranoid 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hulk Hogan was filmed by a trespasser on his property through his bedroom window.

[–]Revoran 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're within the privacy of your own home or a place where you can reasonably expect to not be seen, especially if you're having sex or doing a shit or something private, then you should have a legal expectation of privacy, thus making it illegal for someone to film you without your knowlege and then spread the footage around.

Now if you're in the street or a public area, then sure people should be able to film you all they like.

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