Man complains of ex-wife's mental illness. Judge sides with mother in custody case and now homicide ruled in death of son. When will this end?

HORSEBLUES · 2015-07-01T00:07:43+00:00

I heard another story about a woman who was PROVEN to have killed her husband, got out of jail with a legal loophole, got custody of the child, and then murdered the child.

cuteman · 2015-06-30T23:42:59+00:00

Do family court judges all get together and chant this mantra every morning?

"Men are wallets, not fathers."

Lhtfoot · 2015-07-01T01:14:12+00:00

It will never end - because nobody gives a shit about children or fathers - only mother's pocket books.

Disagree? Look at the statutes. There are no mechanisms in place to safeguard children and their rights to have both parents be a part of their lives. There are no mandatory fitness tests in contested custody. There is however a giant bureaucracy in place to make sure women get their checks. That's where the priority is.

Judges follow the statutes and in this case the Judge protected the mother's financial interests over all other considerations, because that's what a judge is tasked to do by the laws that are written in the books.

Fathers aren't important. The lives of children aren't important. All that matters is that the mother gets paid. Nobody should be shocked at this occurrence. This is a direct reflection of the laws that govern civil family concerns.

Alarid · 2015-07-01T01:50:04+00:00

"It's just how women are". That is how society views mental illness in women. And when somebody has the initiative to stand up, and say something is wrong, they are labeled a misogynist.

It isn't until something regrettable happens that we start to give a shit.

Bluebird_North · 2015-06-30T23:39:42+00:00

This will end when judges are found personally liable for negligent decisions. Nothing makes someone do their job like the prospect of losing their entire wealth.

Please, lawyers. Sue this judge.

Ted8367 · 2015-06-30T23:42:22+00:00

A judge disagreed.

And the judge had the main power. Therefore, the judge had the main responsibility. The judge should be charged with manslaughter.

It will never end until the people who actually cause things to happen are the same ones held to account for the consequences coming from their actions.

SmiteThe · 2015-06-30T21:10:52+00:00

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laxdstorn · 2015-07-01T02:16:06+00:00

I think the judge should be held partially liable for it. If he knowingly put a child in the custody of a mentally ill woman, in my opinion, there should be some ramifications for him!

Fez4chins · 2015-07-01T02:29:54+00:00

This is just sad. This is heart breaking. What's happening to judicial system? Where's the rigorous efforts to maintain truth and justice prevails. Why is it all becoming so gynocentric? Are women really this privileged? That even with mental illness people trust them more with kids. We need to change the social perception of women as some sort of automatically great parents and mothers. There's an increasing tendency of deadbeat moms more than deadbeat dads.

lolyer1 · 2015-07-01T02:26:41+00:00

This is so true and i whole heartily agree. Judges that blindly rule and issue orders under the guise of what's best for the children, will hopefuly retire and stay away from once was a prestigious position.

The only way this damsel in distress team mon shit is gonna end is when we cycle through two more generations of judges and get more diverse life skills sitting in.

ElMorono · 2015-07-01T02:19:50+00:00

This article was fairly brief, but other articles have explained that the judge was unaware of the mother's mental illness, and that the ex-husband did not bring it up in court. Not that I'm defending anybody here, but if the judge is unaware of the mother's problems, then an impartial verdict will not be reached.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/is-the-3-year-old-found-dead-on-a-park-swing-a-case-of-dad-discrimination/2015/06/01/b33e9396-0890-11e5-9e39-0db921c47b93_story.html

2015-06-30T23:32:57+00:00

When will it end?

When they attempt to impose Australian model gun laws.

The result will be brief, noisy, and decisive.

eloquentnemesis · 2015-07-01T09:37:12+00:00

You get what you incentivize.

2015-07-01T12:02:57+00:00

It will end when we start making people accountable for their decisions.

Judge decides to send the kid off with a reportedly mentally ill person without an evaluation and the kid is murdered by that person. He/she loses their job and possibly goes to jail for negligent homicide.

Same scenario and the judge orders a psychologist to evaluate the mother...psych says she is fine to be custodial parent...kid is murdered anyway....psychologist loses his/her career and goes to jail for negligent homicide.

In most people's jobs you make a mistake and someone dies as a direct result....you are probably going to be fired, and possibly charged with something...why can't we hold these positions responsible in the same manner?

bsutansalt · 2015-07-01T13:16:14+00:00

With great power comes great responsibility. As the judge had the power to make this right, but failed to do so, then he's ultimately responsible for putting these kids in the hands of killers.

As another poster stated, at a minimum the judge should be charged with manslaughter in cases such as this where no steps were taken to ensure the child's safety. It will never end until the people who actually cause things to happen are the same ones held to account for the consequences coming from their actions.

chafedinksmut · 2015-07-01T17:20:34+00:00

It will end when men stop providing the resources and violent action on behalf of the State to enslave other men. So, no time soon.

lethalweapon100 · 2015-07-01T10:48:45+00:00

Can you sue a judge? Now is the time for that.

1bdkty · 2015-07-01T13:21:37+00:00

The father may have brought up his concerns once, but when given the opportunity to reinerate them or push for custody he did not. I dont think you can (100%) say this is a court bias

According to a transcript of the hearing, Lee did not reiterate his fears about his son’s safety. The judge asked, “So is there a reason why you two shouldn’t share this child? Is someone unfit here?” Lee responded, “There’s no one unfit.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sheriffs-office-death-of-boy-found-on-park-swing-was-a-homicide/2015/06/30/782b7c92-1f5b-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

Electroverted · 2015-07-01T17:18:42+00:00

If judges would start being held accountable in custody cases that lead to violence, the same way bartenders are accountable for tragic DUIs

I would be so happy.

tiqr · 2015-06-30T21:47:11+00:00

This is a sensational story, but we have way too little information to jump to any conclusions.

Was this woman an unfit parent? In retrospect, absolutely. But we know nothing about the father, and nothing about how the mother had behaved prior to this incident. For all we know the mother was chair of the local PTA and the father had been recently released from prison.

It's easy to criticize the courts for 'bias' or 'getting it wrong' when we have no idea whatsoever about what happened in court. This is an awful outcome, and clearly the court should have reached a different decision. But that's only with the benefit of hindsight - something courts never have.

chavelah · 2015-07-01T01:06:22+00:00

Two things:

An aggressive guardian ad litem (or court-appointed advocate, or whatever they call it in your state) could have altered the course of this case. All American citizens over age 18 with clean criminal records are eligible to volunteer for this vital role. Go sign the fuck up and help at-risk children in your community.
When a mentally ill person is caring for a child or other helpless person, and they call you and tell you to come pick them up, GO. By the time they are calling their perceived adversaries and asking them to intervene, they are teetering on the edge of something awful.

flip69 · 2015-07-01T04:33:25+00:00

Don't stick your dick in crazy... and this is actually a darwin situation. The parent was not successfully reproductive.

Idontlikekarmawhores · 2015-07-01T08:04:02+00:00

When we as a men take a stand, when we teach our kids to be man, and when we destroy betas.

MadTrini · 2015-07-01T11:44:55+00:00

Anybody post this on TwoX?

Title	Man complains of ex-wife's mental illness. Judge sides with mother in custody case and now homicide ruled in death of son. When will this end?
Author	Comcast_Lobbyist
Upvotes	695
Comments	110
Date	June 30, 2015 8:43 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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