5 Bizarre Realities of Being a Man Who Was Raped by a Woman - Cracked.com

stealthymangos · 2015-01-30T18:01:30+00:00

This is the only Cracked article I've seen that doesn't have a comments section. Interesting.

Juan_Golt · 2015-01-30T17:59:56+00:00

Very apt take on the issue. The only thing I dislike is his characterization of the MRM. I'd say the vast majority of MRAs align closely to his stance. Basically that:

Advocating for men doesn't require denigrating the rights of women.
Men face different issues than women when dealing with gender roles.

But he characterizes the MRM as if we somehow are the mirror image of feminism believing in some form of matriarchy where women oppress men. I have no issue acknowledging the dominance of men in industry, politics, and elsewhere. I just go further and also acknowledge male prevalence in suicide, homelessness, and imprisonment.

paracog · 2015-01-30T18:42:17+00:00

Nice to see these points being made, even in such a slight publication as Cracked. Covered their ass by sliming the MRA and lying that sexual dynamics were created by men, rather than as a collaboration over centuries, a dance of active and passive powers.

Keiichi81 · 2015-01-30T22:42:43+00:00

Well, I'm a male rape victim who has no problem acknowledging that men have dominated every position of power in the history of modern society -- who do you imagine is responsible for creating a culture that ridicules men who cry, get overpowered by women, or otherwise assume a role normally inhabited by women?

If you live in a society where the patriarchy is such a given no one even thinks to name it, being a "womanly man" is shameful. When we stop perpetuating antiquated gender roles, male victims will be taken more seriously. But let's be perfectly honest -- those gender roles were created by men.

The author comes so close only to completely derail at the end and pass all the blame once again onto "the Patriarchy" which is the root of all problems in human history, as if women have no agency or ability to influence the society around them.

No, those gender roles were not "created by men". They were created by women; selected for in what they viewed as desirable partners. The peacock doesn't strut for the benefit of his rivals. Men don't act "masculine" because they want to impress other dudes. Men act the way they do because that's historically how you secured a mate. No matter how often sophisticated metropolitan women these days might lament how men are so insensitive and claim to pine for a man who's in touch with his emotionally expressive "feminine side", none of them really want a weak, sobbing nancy boy. They'll say they want a man who "knows how to cry" out of one side of their mouth while spreading their legs for the brooding and stoic bad boy. The predominant group which instilled in men that acting "womanly" was undesirable was other women. When women say that they want a more feminine man, what most of them mean is that they simply want a gay friend.

Ladies, if you actually want men to change, then start selecting for that change the next time you're out at the club looking for a lay. In other words, put your vaginas where you mouths are. If the scrawny, effeminate high school nerd who wears his emotions on his sleeve was surrounded on all sides by a flock of attractive girls all eager for his affections, you can bet that being a scrawny, effeminate nerd who wears his emotions on his sleeve would become what men aspired to be. As it stands, it's the emotionless alpha male jock who invariably wins their sexual attention. As long as that remains the case, women have no one but themselves to blame.

MoesBAR · 2015-01-30T17:46:09+00:00

The problem is woman blame mankind for female rape but when nazifeminists belittle and discard male rape, other feminists just say "they don't representative "real feminists"" and walk away from the conversation. No you don't get to walk away, I have to listen to ads telling me not to beat woman (even thought I never have) so if I have to listen to that the least you "main stream" feminists can do is fight those not so mainstream feminists tarnishing your movement.

Blutarg · 2015-01-30T22:08:23+00:00

Cracked published this? Is it Opposite Day?

WhippingBoys · 2015-01-31T00:49:31+00:00

https://archive.today/724CV

Here's the archived version. Do not give them clicks. This was a half assed article that still managed to bash men and groups that support men for female rape of men.

Given Crackeds long history of misandry and MRA bashing, while downplaying the very idea men can be victims, this article doesn't suddenly give them integrity. Especially when they go on to blame men for female-on-male rape and lack of support.

They have been steadily losing viewers because of their hardlined feminist sexism and they think a token article like this is going to bring back people even though they still manage to blame men as a gender? No.

Chad_Nine · 2015-01-30T21:26:00+00:00

Remember when Cracked was about humor? When did a joke site decide that rape was a topic they wanted to deal with?

2015-01-31T02:31:45+00:00

The "patriarchy" and "misogyny"?

Tell that to men in India.

There is frequent discussion about "rape culture". I am proposing that rape culture genuinely exists in India.

My understanding of current circumstances is that the male victims of another male dare not report. They are only able to allege a victimless, morals based crime and in doing so run the risk of being charged with the same crime as the perpetrator. They can be deemed to have participated in an immoral act. If raped by a woman there is nothing to report at all because it simply isn't a crime.

Two years ago the Indian government proposed gender neutral rape laws. The consequence:-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes...

These protests were successful and the government backed down. Thus half the population can be raped with virtual legal impunity and the other half can rape others with legal impunity. In my mind, if anything could, THAT is what constitutes a "rape culture".

India. Rape culture. Brought to you by feminism.

ParentheticalClaws · 2015-01-31T16:54:08+00:00

And that, right there, seems to be the psychological hurdle no one can get over. It's based on the idea that sex is something men do to women. Men give out sex, women receive it, and that's just how sex works. So if sex occurred, it must mean I was the one who made it happen.

I think this point is really important in terms of understanding how the very same screwed up ideas about sex harm both men and women. Women get their sexual agency denied, and men face this abhorrent idea that they must have been active in their own victimization. Very well said on the part of the author. I think some of it also comes from a general prudishness around the details of sex that causes people to neglect the actual physical details when discussing rape in a way that is dissimilar to our discussions of other crimes.

stop_stalking_me · 2015-01-31T20:50:08+00:00

It was good until the last point where he started slamming the MRM.

DukeMaximum · 2015-01-30T21:18:41+00:00

I'm surprised to see this from Cracked. David Wong is usually so eager to re-post Tumblr bullshit. It's really encouraging that they ran this article.

Although they did turn off the comments section, of course. Wouldn't want actual discussion or debate to disrupt the agenda.

zpatriarchy · 2015-01-30T18:04:20+00:00

you shouldn't link directly to cracked, it's a feminist site.

BigDamnHead · 2015-01-30T17:58:52+00:00

The fifth point is problematic in that it paints all men's groups as bad while saying that women's groups are only sometimes the problem.

Otherwise I think it is a good read, and I am glad to see it on a more mainstream site.

wazzup987 · 2015-01-31T02:40:51+00:00

Why the fuck is a woman in the Byline on story about male rape?

Chad_Nine · 2015-01-31T05:17:49+00:00

The only good thing about the article is that it shows how the mainstream are being forced to face issues that the MRM have been talking about. They can't ignore it anymore.

Point 1 (the last one...) just makes me smile. These types are going to go down in flames, screaming, clutching their propoganda about "patriarchy" like a drowning man clutches a life preserver.

andejoh · 2015-01-31T05:41:24+00:00

Nothing new at cracked. Look at the end of the article. They said men have a problem when they're raped (and are largely raped because) of gender roles created by, wait for it, men. Sp cracked basically is blaming men who are raped for being raped. Doesn't sound like a change from them.

hork23 · 2015-01-31T11:12:33+00:00

Don't worry, the author blames men at the end. "But let's be perfectly honest -- those gender roles were created by men." Somehow biology doesn't even occur to this person's mind. Even as a rape victim, cannot help but blame men still in some area.

dzendian · 2015-01-31T02:08:23+00:00

"So for me -- or anyone else -- to decide that my story is proof that men are the "real" victims of the modern world and that women/feminists are thus the enemy, is nuts. All victims are real. All victims should feel like they're able to speak up without being dismissed or ridiculed. If a movement -- regardless of what it represents -- ever feels like it's losing ground by showing empathy, then something has gone seriously fucking awry. And if you ever feel a knee-jerk urge to dismiss the story of a victim because it doesn't fit with what you believe about the world, stop and ask yourself if maybe what you believe about the world happens to be wrong."

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_21884_5-awful-realities-being-man-who-was-raped-by-woman_p2.html#ixzz3QMQpA9g9

xynomaster · 2015-01-30T19:12:15+00:00

That was a very well written article. Agreed almost 100%.

Title	5 Bizarre Realities of Being a Man Who Was Raped by a Woman - Cracked.com
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