Why would anybody believe that Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn really received rape/murder threats?

euphobot · 2014-09-03T02:11:44+00:00

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headless_bourgeoisie · 2014-09-03T05:08:57+00:00

I'm no fan of Anita, but I 100% believe she received threats. I mean, someone made a game where you punch her in the face. People were (and still are) fucking pissed at her.

Shoveldove · 2014-09-03T06:18:55+00:00

They shouldn't. And that's the thing. All you need as a woman is your word something happened.

jpflathead · 2014-09-03T00:42:45+00:00

~~Well, I threatened them each with death many times so there's that..~~

Come on, that's silly. I've gotten threats of doxing at many feminist sites just for commenting in the wrong way.

Lots of people male and female, thunderf00t included, acknowledge receiving death threats online.

It is very easy to believe that both of them received threats.

I think you can question whether each threat they've received is real, or if it's from "friends" or MRAs or other people. And question how serious the threat is, but it seems silly to dispute they do not receive threats.

iethatis · 2014-09-03T00:50:23+00:00

Pretty strong evidence exists that it was fabricated. http://i.imgur.com/zHPLIan.jpg

Chad_Nine · 2014-09-03T01:35:14+00:00

Gut reaction to protect women.

DarqTheExile · 2014-09-03T03:18:20+00:00

The only thing that Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian need to be exposed for is exploiting their userbase kneejerks by making a mediocre/untrue product and stirring a media shitstorm for sympathy money.

That is what they are and that is what they do. They do a disservice to their cause in the least, and at most damage it.

highestformofautism · 2014-09-03T01:57:06+00:00

tl;dr in bottom paragraph

Though I don't particularly have an opinion either way on it being faked (maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, no way to know 100% for sure and it doesn't matter that much in light of the other bullshit around these people), besides the threat featuring a home address I fail to understand the outrage over it. Internet threats very rarely amount to anything, the worst being some edgy kids prank calling you or sending you a pizza (the horror!). It's still definitely a problem that people stalk and say 'kill urself fag' but I remember so many classes in elementary school talking about how to stay safe online which included ignoring people making these sort of threats since they don't know you in person anyway.

Even then, these sort of things have become less common on the internet overtime. It's kind of surprising that it's actually this common against these folk in this day and age (though, taking into account the question of how much may be fake or trolls doing it to prove a point moreso than harass), but even then that's what happens to public figures.

Additionally, there used to be not only harassment of this sort online, but also people who would poke through some random person's (i.e. a nobody, not a public figure) entire post history on a website for any shred of personal info or personal interests to dox and harass them with ammunition more than empty threats. These people would persist, too, making a new account for every one you block and reposting a comment for every one you delete - meaning the literal only way to get rid of them was to ignore their comments, meaning you allow it to trash up your YouTube video's comments/etc (back when YouTube was a bit more interpersonal/had a better community circa 2010 and back) and hope they eventually get bored. Even then, some would be interlopers and come back every month (seriously, did people keep lists of internet strangers to harass just for teh lulz?) and sometimes you'd get a shitton of people doing it all at once.

When people find conversations you've had with friends and then fuck with you en masse by mocking everything they know about your personal life even if they don't know your personal details, and this also being during a time when such vile things to say were still relatively new and shocking to most people, it's understandable why someone'd get upset over it. And if you got upset over it, they'd mock you for that too; ever wonder where "U MAD" originally came from in the context of the internet and why it's now a low-hanging fruit of trolling?

But I'm supposed to feel upset that some people wrote some bullshit to a few public figures on twitter that, in every instance, amounted to nothing. Right-o, then. Maybe if they were such actual threats, they'd report it instead of whining on the same fucking website that they got so horribly harassed at, then asking for donations from strangers.

GenderNeutralLanguag · 2014-09-03T03:25:34+00:00

This IS a very credible and VERY REAL threat. It perfectly hit every major point for being an actual threat delivered via the internet perfectly. If this very real very credible threat hasn't been reported to the FBI, it should be. This very real very credible threat needs to be investigated and prosecuted. Posting death threats on the internet isn't something that should be taken lightly.

And seeing Anita thrown in prison for threatening to murder people like Johnny and her parents would just be icing on the cake.

That account was made and used from some where, the FBI can get IP's and physical locations with out much problem. Whom ever issued these very real very credible threats needs to be punished.

Aureon · 2014-09-03T02:56:08+00:00

Because it's the internet, and everybody which does anything remotely annoying to anyone gets death threats. There's no need to fake.
I've gotten death threats over idiotic stuff in more arguments that i care to remember, and i'm definitely a nobody.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-09-03T00:29:23+00:00

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2014-09-03T01:19:29+00:00

Because there's always extremists out there

genderbent · 2014-09-03T04:27:52+00:00

oh, i'm sure they really have recieved a pile of threats; they're cohabiting the same internet as /b/ after all. the real issue is wether the threats have anything to do with gender, which i would argue they do not.

Plavonica · 2014-09-03T06:13:26+00:00

I honestly believe that if you posted a cake recipe on the internet that you would receive death threats. It's human nature.

d3k4y · 2014-09-03T07:48:56+00:00

I wouldn't be surprised if a post on 4chan or a comment on a YouTube video somewhere out there contained a threat of violence. Now an actual, credible threat? Doubtful. Having your life threatened on the Internet is as easy as saying Cool Ranch Doritos are better than Nacho Cheese Doritos. The tweets in the screen cap that ImNotIntoPokemon posted are total bullshit. It even kind of reads like the person that wrote it has never talked about women in a sexual manner before. It may as well said "I will drain the sand from your boobies!".

TracyMorganFreeman · 2014-09-03T12:31:51+00:00

Oh I believe they received XboxLive Shit-talking level credibility threats. Those aren't actual threats though. Threats must be reasonably actionable, and a random asshole on the internet shows neither the ability nor inclination to do so.

inc0gn3gr0 · 2014-09-03T13:58:32+00:00

As for actually legitimate rape threats probably not. Did they recieve comments with this like "Oh u r getting so fuking raep r n", extremely likely. Mainly because they are deal with internet and gamer culture. Telling people they are getting raped (losing) and such, is common in gaming culture.

There was an incident where their was a fighting game reality show, and the one guy was shouting "Rape her". Obviously, this caused a huge stir and the girl, who was pretty much a nobody prior, ran with it.

avantvernacular · 2014-09-03T14:50:49+00:00

Oh I'm quite confident they do. Pretty much everyone on the Internet with a public opinion on anything does.

6Sungods · 2014-09-03T15:23:32+00:00

Feminazis + confirmation bias.

lazlounderhill · 2014-09-03T21:37:28+00:00

Because vagina = truth = feelz.

Mythandros · 2014-09-03T21:56:47+00:00

I agree.

I seriously doubt either of them have gotten threats of either kind. Unless they provide proof, I'll continue to laugh at them.

humankin · 2014-09-03T04:56:27+00:00

Receiving internet threats isn't indicative of anything. We all get threatened by anonymous dipshits. It's credibly threats that matter. I've never heard of any feminist receiving that sort of threat from MRAs or indeed any male.

horus-ra · 2014-09-03T14:25:50+00:00

I do not doubt in the least that they have received threats including death, rape, mutilation, etc from people online. When it comes to online gaming, everyone receives these kinds of threats. Sometimes they are from butt hurt children who lost a game, sometimes in jest, and sometimes from trolls just trying to get in your head. This is not an exclusively female problem, nor do I honestly believe that women are more often on the receiving end of these threats than men.

I think that the women who complain about being harassed and threatened by anonymous goons online are overly sensitive and likely complaining just for the attention of being a "victim" of something that is basically harmless. I can't count how many times I've been "T-bagged", told to go felate my dog, kill myself, suck a dick, that they are going to "rape me in the mouth", etc etc... In MMO's like WoW I have noticed that some women can even abuse the fact that they are female in order to receive preferential treatment and higher social standing. When guys get screwed over by this they start to build up a negative view of female gamers and will eventually vent this online.

Nomenimion · 2014-09-03T01:47:27+00:00

how gullible her target audience is?

Why does everyone always assume that they're smarter than the people they disagree with?

Title	Why would anybody believe that Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn really received rape/murder threats?
Author	Nomenimion
Upvotes	37
Comments	78
Date	September 3, 2014 12:28 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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