How is your experience with lifting weights in the gym? Did it actually help with women?

You can't create a thread like this on purplepilldebate or other places on reddit without a number of people saying "hurrr durrr sounds like you don't want to put in the work, sounds like you're lazy, sounds like you're making excuses". Hopefully it will be different here.

For a bit of background - I have been in and out the gym over my life. I lifted solidly for 3 years, sticking to a good lifting routine, good diet, enough rest, barely missed a gym session, before real life got in the way. I then lifted again for 18 months straight. Strength and muscle comes back a lot faster, because of muscle memory. Right now I have been in the gym for 6 months and the gains have come very fast because of muscle memory.

Anyway, in all that time I lifted weights, I felt like it helped precisely zero with women. I did put on plenty of muscle and strength. I could see the changes in my body over time, the scales went up, I lifted way more than when I started. I was putting in the work. But when it came to women? Nothing. Women did not care.

I read on purplepilldebate, the red pill subreddit and other places, that some men lift for just 1-2 years and already they have women checking them out, women giggling over them, women touching them, women starting conversations with them. I don't know whether they're lying or not, but I got none of that. It was so disappointing.

Then when I do say my experience, I'm told I shouldn't lift for women. I should lift for "myself", I should lift because it brings "confidence" (confidence gains were minimal at best for me), I should lift for my health (doesn't feel healthy to push your body that hard to build extra muscle that your body doesn't even need).

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So what are your experiences? Did lifting help with women and why/why not?