Does bodycount matter?

capitanMorgan89 · 2023-01-02T18:16:26+00:00

Does my financial statements or income matter?

OPzee19 · 2023-01-02T17:36:57+00:00

Women instinctively know it matters. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so defensive and resort to shaming when the subject arises.

ABeeBox · 2023-01-02T21:48:59+00:00

But then they'll throw a hissy fit if even the name of your ex comes up.

jeffend1981 · 2023-01-02T16:54:22+00:00

And these kinds of women are not strong enough to deal with the reality that most men do not want someone like this.

Nobody is saying you can’t do what you want to do. But doing what you want to do always comes with consequences.

Dr_Korona · 2023-01-02T16:22:08+00:00

Yes.

arrouk · 2023-01-02T16:18:16+00:00

This is a very individual question.

Most women don't want to be with a guy with a huge body count.

Most men don't want to be with a woman with a huge body count.

Men accept this and women get pissy.

denisc9918 · 2023-01-02T20:34:13+00:00

Men lie and increase theirs.

Women lie and decrease theirs.

If it doesn't matter then why the lies?

Only promiscuous hoes are trying to convince everyone it doesn't matter.

Jabronskyi · 2023-01-02T20:49:02+00:00

AdComprehensive6588 · 2023-01-02T20:46:44+00:00

Why body count does matter

During sex, both men and women release oxytocin which is what causes both of them to pair-bond with each other leading to happier and longer lasting relationships.

This was considered common sense for a long period of time, but that died long ago.

_IDCGB3 · 2023-01-02T21:03:24+00:00

Yes, it does anyone who say otherwise is a lying.

Sityu91 · 2023-01-02T21:12:50+00:00

In short: yes.

Humans evolved for many-many thousands of years in small communities: a couple dozen people in a band and a few hundred people in a tribe.

If you had a bodycount in the hundreds in ancient tribes, that means you laid with everyone you know; not just the men, but the women and children, too. The repulsive feeling this bodycount causes in others (or at least the feeling that this is not normal) is not an accident, it's ancient.

Let's say a tribe has 360 members with uniform age distribution: 120 children, 120 adults, 120 elders. If your bodycount is about 60, you slept with every possible person who is a socially acceptable partner (fertile age, heterosexual partner). That is still not normal. You are still the town bicycle.

If your bodycount is one or two dozen, that means you "sampled" every single band of your tribe. That is about the edge of acceptability.

A bodycount under a dozen is like "yeah, that happens, that's normal".

Keep in mind that Roman and Greek orgies and decadence don't disturb this evolutionary feeling. Those societies are ancient, but not that ancient. 2.000 years are not significant in the 100.000+ years that we are talking about here.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2023-01-02T17:40:41+00:00

Well, it's easy for women to have a high body count. It's hard for men to have a high body count. Hell yeah it matters.

sho3gazezzastroknott · 2023-01-02T22:57:48+00:00

Its actually baffling to me,

At the age i'm at now i would have expected to find myself getting excited when i meet girls that i find physically attractive, fun and cool to be around and want to bond with them more...

AHa but instead i find myself in the predicament where all that ever comes to mind now are questions such as how many dudes has this chick been railed by ?? Do i know any of em ?? When she gunna start bashing me over the head with social politics? What are the chances of her having an onlyfans?? and how likely is she to freak out and try and fuck my life up for no reason at all other than tiktok told her too hahaha??

The internet and modern gynocentric society has fucked my mind up beyond belief and i hate it but I can't ignore the fact that its everything i need to be aware of.

C834 · 2023-01-02T19:17:43+00:00

A woman with a dirty past doesn't actually love you, she just sees you as one of her many sexual partners.

lahnzat7 · 2023-01-02T21:21:41+00:00

Here are two things, this counts when this same girl keeps seeing how much a man has in his bank account, women with this opinion are obviously "modern" women and if you are really "modern" what are you doing asking for requirements like a traditional woman. they sleep with hundreds of men, don't take care of themselves and still want the whole package. I completely agree that a woman has requirements, but logically a woman who took care of herself in her past. exactly like women of the past, traditional and conservative.

Im-Spreading-for-you · 2023-01-02T19:16:41+00:00

Eh idk. Just don't be a cumslut

YoungMiral · 2023-01-02T22:48:49+00:00

Yes and no, but half of the time women lie about the amount of people they slept with especially in a relationship because they don't want to be seen as a nasty person that can't keep their legs closed and be slut shamed. I know this from experience.

WA0SIR · 2023-01-02T17:26:05+00:00

For women yes. For men no. Then has been shown time after time. Women associate sex with emotional connection. The more this connection is broken the harder it is for them to reclaim that connection for future relationships. Which is why the larger the body count, the more likely they are to leave a relation in the future.

TheGameForFools · 2023-01-02T19:38:29+00:00

It matters because of what men and women value in each other.

By and large, women are the selectors and men are the selected. So, men have to prove they’re worthy according to what women find valuable.

The thing that drives men to compete with each other is the desire to be seen as the most valuable among their peers.

Women value a man that other high quality women have selected. And that selection is typically based on success and dominance.

Success being achievement, public acclaim, wealth, and privilege.

Dominance being physical height and strength, and power and influence over people, systems and things.

If a guy has slept with lots of high value women, it’s an endorsement of his worthiness as a mate.

Women who date this man get a boost in status for being picky and choosing to be with the best guy.

Pete Davidson is a good example of this. Once he’d been selected by a couple of high quality women, other high quality women wanted him.

Conversely, men value a women for exclusivity. The more physically beautiful a woman is, the more discerning she is able to be with who she selects, and the greater the boost in status to the men that date her.

If a woman is very beautiful, she has high quality options and can screen heavily, picking only the best men.

For example, Logan Paul is now dating Nina Agdal. Agdal is an insanely beautiful woman. Her dating history is very exclusive, a short string of long term relationships with very high value men.

She’s not bouncing from nobody to nobody. She’s a symbol of status, a woman few men have access to.

Logan was willing to commit to her because, although he has many sexual options, Agdal is so exclusive that the status boost of being with her is worth limiting his sexual variety.

This is why body counts matter to men more than women. And it’s the reason why women instinctively know not to be honest about high body counts.

A low body count matters to men more because every low value guy the girl sleeps with reduces her exclusivity which then reduces his status boost from being chosen by her.

A woman who isn’t discerning can actually damage a guys status.

Conversely, a man no other woman would select is not attractive to women. It’s like the guy has a cv with no jobs on it. It’s going to lower her status to be with him.

Splunkzop · 2023-01-02T20:07:36+00:00

She "wasn't" a cum sponge, she "IS" a cum sponge and always will be.

Sean857mag · 2023-01-02T17:16:11+00:00

Yes and no...the bottom line is people can misrepresent their past.

ihaveacrazyfamoly · 2023-01-02T22:57:52+00:00

Both yes and no In general body count reflects a persons view on sex, for example some one with a high body count might not be as emotionally attached to sex as someone who only wants sex within a relationship. I find people who have dramatic differences in such views about sex tend to not be compatible. So, if u are someone for who sex is something that should be shared within a relationship u might not be compatible with someone to whom sex is just like washing their hands. Furthermore, there can be many reasons for a person to have a high body count both men and women such as self esteem issues, bad coping mechanisms etc. I think that there is no point in thinking about a persons body count as it is in large part just an indicator of their view of sex which can change as a person matures and heals, so I think it is much more important to have a conversation about what sex means to you rather then get caught up in some arbitrary numbers.

Weekly_Signal6481 · 2023-01-03T00:47:11+00:00

no , absolutely not but the idiots in this subreddit will say it does.

homerteedo · 2023-01-03T03:04:53+00:00

That completely depends upon the individual, doesn’t it? Some people care, some don’t.

MustardWendigo · 2023-01-03T04:15:07+00:00

It's simple. A woman who's fucked 100 men will compare you to those 100 men any moment you aren't perfectly pleasing her. You don't cut the crust off her sandwiches like one of her exes did.

Nevermind the fact that ex cheated on her and slapped her in the face when she called him out on it though. You're only getting compared to the good parts she misses.

Same with sex. Style. Personality. The reason for this is women don't have to do anything to get into a relationship. That's not a debate. That's a long known fact.

My role as man is to dress up, preen and dance and sing for her.

Her role is to exist and say she likes my style and wants to hook up. So hard. Decision making so hard uuuugh.

So she's seen so many songs and dances by so many men. Men who for some reason or another aren't around. But you're still gonna get compared to them. A woman with the maturity to sleep with a lot of men and still be fair and reasonable will happily tell you her count because she's not fucking broken and doesn't need to hide it.

If you get mad. Ashamed. It's only because you're the type of women who wants your cake and to eat it too. Cope harder.

AND YES A MAN WILL DO THE SAME BUT WE KNOW THAT SO DONT TRY TO DEFLECT AND MINIMIZE.

But women aren't the performers. They just need to look good. Having a personality is a BONUS. It's a fucking requirement for men to even get spoken to lmfao. Again. This is not a debate. It's a well known fact.

Bottom line a woman will be more likely to fuck around behind your back because you're not reading her mind. Why? Because she's never had to really invest more than her time and a bit of attention. It comes that cheaply and that easily. She knows she can just go find cock n wallet #102 if she gets bored.

Yes a man will do the same but, let's not try to debate the fact, most men don't get to pull that much tail since women have unrealistic demands from the get-go and the sensible ones are few and far between and... Blessedly, often spoken for.

Any_Constant_6550 · 2023-01-03T12:14:31+00:00

Can we just stop calling it a bodycount. Sounds like we're a bunch of hitmen.

Quixotic-Recondite · 2023-01-02T17:42:21+00:00

I wholeheartedly believe that any man who would marry a girl with a high body count is either brainwashed or an incel, or both.

Edit: for the most part

NimbleVaseline · 2023-01-03T00:31:56+00:00

Yes, because it shows if a woman is a high value woman

skylikeslemonade · 2023-01-03T12:47:53+00:00

a high body count isn’t a negative thing. it only matters to me because if my partner has more experience then i know i’ll have a better time lmao

princess00chelsea · 2023-01-02T18:23:32+00:00

Not once has anyone been able to answer my question. What is considered a high body count? 3? 8? 11? 50?

Just curious where the line was.

Furthermore what if a women had been with 10 men in her 20s but got married mid 20s and was with one person for 20 years but then he were to pass away. She obviously can commit, is she unwanted by older men?

420Grim420 · 2023-01-02T17:49:17+00:00

To me, it's not the body count that necessarily matters, but it's the fact that after like 8 partners, a girl typically becomes a jaded cunt.

Stand_kicker · 2023-01-02T19:37:49+00:00

Nope.

As long as you don't add to the body count while we are together. Add anyone except me of course

Former_Ocelot5593 · 2023-01-02T19:08:42+00:00

Holy shit dude you fucking killed her 💀

stunspot · 2023-01-02T22:40:20+00:00

No, but the reason for it matters. Is it high because she's sex positive and likes bonin'? Fine. Is it high because she only feels validated and complete when a man pays attention to her? Not good. Low because she thinks sharing her body without love is devalues hersrlf? Ok. Low because she's scared of sex and uncomfortable in her body? Pass.

manofbadadvice · 2023-01-02T22:46:57+00:00

No, and neither should mine.

maxime7567 · 2023-01-03T08:30:14+00:00

Yes. Simple as that. I would prefer a Virgin. I am saving my Virginity for that reason. I don't want a whore. Especially because than she'll compare you to her hook-ups and has a high possibility of being dissatisfied. For a Virgin this isn't the case. Also women with huge body counts often had an abortion. Either that or they already have a kid running around. The second option can be forgiven imo, but the first I find unforgivable. I am picky. The women I date should be picky. So you wind up in a successful marriage.

Brilliant_Writer_136 · 2023-01-02T19:22:49+00:00

If they are a genuinely nice partner un all areas of life, body count doesn't matter.

Lavarosen · 2023-01-02T18:42:52+00:00

It depends on the individual, don’t shame others on their sexual choices, but you can have a preference towards your partner. Personally though, I don’t think it matters how many partners a person has had, how in the hell were they supposed to know which partner would be with them forever? What if they really just had a string of people who didn’t work out? Or even if they wanted to get around for experience, doesn’t that just mean I benefit because they will have a lot of tactics to use in the bedroom?

Brilliant_Writer_136 · 2023-01-02T19:02:33+00:00

It doesn't matter that much.

Imagine if you were bisexual and met a dude that fucked with 100 dudes. But he's genuinely a great partner to have. Would you turn him down for that reason?

OofOuch_MyBrain · 2023-01-02T17:07:54+00:00

Not to me it doesn't. Sex is fun, why would you want your partner to have lived in lonely boredom until they met you?

I don't get why guys think it matters so much tbh. They say women with higher body count have higher rates of infidelity, but if you look at the stats, it's so minor and wealth status is WAY more influential on infidelity than body count. But you don't hear guys talking about that.

I think any reason they give for why it matters is just post hoc cope. They're insecure, they're intimidated by a woman who want stand for shitty men, a woman who knows how good a man can be.

Shadowdragon409 · 2023-01-02T21:46:18+00:00

Lots of misogynistic comments this time.

Body count matters for most people, but a woman having had sexual partners in the past doesn't decrease her value as a woman, or limit her ability to "pair bond".

For most people, it's an issue when you have lots of partners in a small period of time. Like 20+ people in 6 months. It's more acceptable if you have 20+ people in 20 years.

I personally wouldn't ask my partner how much experience they've had, but if I knew beforehand that they get around, I wouldn't want to pursue anything with them.

CatCow_1 · 2023-01-05T21:23:38+00:00

Ok, if women should keep their body count low then men also have to keep it low too. You cannot suggest women having a high body count is bad, yet get upset if a women doesn't want to have sex with you. You are contributing to the high body count when you sleep with a women. Be the change you want to see lol

Friendly_Order3729 · 2023-01-07T09:00:23+00:00

I’m really interested to know the male perspective on this from this group. When I had this discussion with my bf he had slept with more people than me, but both of our body counts didn’t bother the other. But honestly wouldn’t you want someone who had a bit of experience so that they knew what they were doing and were more confident to discuss what each other likes in the bedroom to have a healthy and satisfying sex life?

The ultra-feminist view is that men who want a woman who is a virgin or have no more than 2ish, do so because they are bad in the bedroom and don’t want the woman to have any standards for a sexual partner I.e. understand female pleasure. I think there could be some truth in that with certain men, but obviously not all.

I’m curious to now your reasoning behind why women having slept with, let’s say 10 men before is a problem? Not in a condescending way, I just am the type of person that I want to understand both sides fully to ensure I am making my own educated decision. But I can’t understand it from a men’s perspective so I came here.

humrod-pdx · 2023-01-02T18:57:35+00:00

Only to the men who aren’t getting laid

twistednormz · 2023-01-02T17:16:23+00:00

It matters to insecure boys on the Internet trying to impress each other. It doesn't matter to mature men and women in the real world who have relationships with real people.

Brilliant_Writer_136 · 2023-01-02T19:27:56+00:00

Body count doesn't matter as long as they actually are a good partner, a respectable person and a functional adult.

If they are still stuck in their teenage years, it's best to avoid them

Sihu94 · 2023-01-02T17:17:34+00:00

No. People can have sex and enjoy their time with other people regardless of gender. However if your current person of interest is keeping their options open or are actively going out still partying that should be cause for concern. Women also have an easier time achieving sex especially now due to social media/ dating apps etc. We can't judge people entirely on their past because the good ones will learn from their mistakes.

TwoTowerz · 2023-01-03T04:41:27+00:00

It’d be nice if people wanted intercourse to be special instead of a “quick fuck” sexual revolution screwed us all

multitheme · 2023-01-03T05:53:24+00:00

Yes it matters it matters more than physically appearance too you can be a 10 but a slut and you become a 1 u can be a 5 and a virgin and go to a 7 or 8

SuperiorFarter · 2023-01-03T06:01:31+00:00

I’ve been looked down on by women for having a low body count compared to them. I’ve tried hard to force myself to increase my body count, even though I really hate the experience of fucking just to get my numbers up. But even though I’m over 40 I just can’t get close to most women.

ActOutside4853 · 2023-01-03T06:04:37+00:00

Who cares? if you just avoid women, sanity soaks into your life. And pretty soon you are happy with your hobbies and your dogs...

And every payday means a new lug of tools...

And everything in the refrigerator is yours...

And you sleep good alone...

"The worst curse, is wanting something for yourself."(Tao)

And the worst thing you can want is women...

let it go...

dont be a leg humping dog.

savor the better things in life... a good pair of lace up boots is more important than some fruitcake playing headgames with you.

spectrumtwelve · 2023-01-03T09:11:45+00:00

To me personally it doesn't matter.

HipHoppOpotamus13 · 2023-01-03T13:24:19+00:00

Yes.

Active-Revenue7075 · 2023-01-03T13:45:10+00:00

If you’re insecure you’ll care about someone else’s body count.

Brandwein · 2023-01-03T14:30:59+00:00

Women are not strong enough to handle 40 year old virgins either haha.

suj1290 · 2023-01-04T03:46:18+00:00

For casual sex it doesn't. For LTR or marriage it does

tuxedoedsoup · 2023-01-06T14:47:08+00:00

sometimes. men or women sleeping around isn’t a bad thing. promiscuous people see sex as more casual, and others see sex as more sacred. just find someone with similar values to you and don’t be hypocritical.

as long as it’s practiced safely neither is better than the other

peasey360 · 2023-01-06T15:05:32+00:00

Most people only get 1-5 deep romantic loves in their life. This is the person they’d cheat on their SO for given the opportunity. The “one that got away” so to speak. Body count doesn’t matter nessecarily but unless you’re one of their deep loves… well you know, they’re less likely to form deep loves as the body count increases. It’s pretty much the same for men and women. That’s not to say that someone with a high body count wont form a deep connection with you.

Title	Does bodycount matter?
Author	OkeyyDokeyyYo
Upvotes	195
Comments	235
Date	January 2, 2023 3:21 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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