Why do men get redpilled?

Conscious-Head-5542 · 2023-06-01T02:16:21+00:00

Loneliness, lack of guidance, lack of success with women and bad childhoods.

mikayrodr · 2023-06-01T02:41:17+00:00

Insecurity is preyed upon and exploited. They feel comfort in having a community of similarly afflicted. The rest follows typical cult patterns

The-Guy-In-Grey · 2023-06-01T04:39:51+00:00

Because on the surface it seems like a logical concept, get in the gym, make bands, then you'll have your choice of woman. And someone like me who had 0 luck with females and still has 0 luck would fall for it.

hoangkelvin · 2023-06-01T04:35:03+00:00

Men want to be liked and accepted by others. A lack of success and support is dangerous.

Downtown_Cat_1172 · 2023-06-01T10:57:07+00:00

Because there are messages conveyed to boys at a young age that women are bad, and there’s cognitive dissonance created when men both want to hate women and also have sex with them. They then receive a lot of messaging that says that they are the main character and women are just accessories who will fall in line for them, but it doesn’t happen. Also that it’s feminine (bad) to want love and commitment. Also the message that women lose value as they age.

Redpill promises: 1. Sex with no consequences for men 2. The opportunity to hate women while also having sex 3. Power and money.

Accomplished_Bus1375 · 2023-06-01T11:10:24+00:00

Honestly I think it's caused by laziness and narcissism. It's very focused on maintaining an upper hand with everybody rather than meeting them with good will.

Your post is like asking why people are unkind. Selfishness, laziness, and cruelty run rampant in the human race. Why? Every religion has an answer.

The problem of evil is a long debate.

Bottom line, it's just not nice.

The red pill is not nice.

ZookeepergameWide931 · 2023-06-01T02:32:31+00:00

Similar to how people get drawn into Isis propaganda. It’s people who lack guidance, purpose, and were scorned in the past that gravitate towards these ideologies. Those types of people are the easiest to radicalize

buzluu · 2023-06-01T10:54:18+00:00

İ ve read an article on net,author said,"They cannot cope with uncertainty."

For me,i ve felt unlovable sometime,and try to "fix" myself and my behaviours,to be loved.But sometime passed,and i ve felt like i am lying myself and others with all that behaviours,and i saw happy and understanding each other,humble,genuine couples around me.It was like cognitive dissonance for me.So i slowly understood happy relationships are possible while you being yourself,now im tryna do inner work,and journal.

mikey_weasel · 2023-06-01T02:19:11+00:00

You've been asking a few questions lately but you've not replied to any comments yet. If you want more specific advice to your situation you might find a conversation helpful.

I generally view most of the ways into the redpill start with a lack of success. Usually in dating but it can be in other realms. When searching for information the Redpill offers clear, simple answers. It often also comes with some good all-purpose advice (engage in physical activity, develop hobbies, dress better etc), which absolutely will lead the reader to look and feel better. And bundles that with simple if misogynistic answers about the world.

milasinovics · 2023-06-01T05:59:12+00:00

Redpill guys attract a certian type...youbger men who feel aimless lonely..either drom a lack of sexual or romantic relationships or a lack of success in other areas of life or guys who don't have a good mother/father/quthority figure in their life to guide them

Silly_Use_8546 · 2023-06-01T13:16:40+00:00

Life is simply not fair and everyone gets trampled on every once in a while (including men ofc). So, the manosphere lures them in the beginning by recognizing their deepest insecurities or troubles (growing up poor, ugly, short, getting rejected a couple of times, never having been competent at anything as compared to other successful men who are a minority btw).

A sane person would either accept their flaws and move on or choose to become better at what they CAN infact control. But both of these options require humility and work. So, young men obviously choose the easier option which requires the least amount of work and the most amount of pampering their own ego, which basically includes blaiming all of their problems on women.

Manosphere/ red pill speak to the darkest part of these men and convinces them of the fact that their success in real world/or with women is inhibited because they dont fully unleash their sadistic tendencies on vulnerable and trusting women.

In order to take revenge on the world for being unfair, they seek out to destroy the innocence of women. Hence, their biggest enemy is the educated woman who is more equipt to pick up on their prickly nature.

AceArguments · 2023-06-01T13:58:11+00:00

The men in power told all the average men that their reward for putting their life on the line and doing what they said was status, wealth, and women. It's a good motivator for war and creating male camaraderie when there is no semblance of friendship there. If men are part of a higher status, higher power, higher intellect group, then everyone that does not fit into 'male' is automatically sorted out. Making them special by default solely for being males. That structure motivates men to always defend other men because they're part of the in group and the women such as their wives, sisters, and daughters are not part of it so they're incentivized to put a complete stranger of a man over them as well (unless they've been told otherwise such as in the case of certain religions).

This structure has been around for so long that it's deeply ingrained and hard to unlearn unless you are the target of that structure. When you are the target of that structure, every single day is a different person that is demeaning you, insulting, negating you, ostracizing you, and aggressively sexualizing you as they belittle you.

Redpill is basically that old power structure repackaged into a different gift box. So you have hundreds of years of super effective manipulation by the upper class geared towards war mixed with a dominance hierarchy that used to allow man 100% free reign on their actions unless they violated the laws and encroached on a wealthier man's property.

Redpill is nothing new. It's nothing innovative and men have been manipulating women for centuries.

The whole idea of 'getting Redpilled' is completely wrong because everyone is predisposed. You can't join a cult unless your base underlying beliefs fell in line with that cult. There are people out there that cannot murder others under any circumstance because it's too heinous of a crime to them and then there are people out there that would pick up a random gun on the ground and go on a shooting spree.

Men 'get Redpilled' because that's the structure they grew up into. Most men believe in all of the tenets of Redpill ideology before they even knew what it was because those ideologies are everywhere; religion, culture, and learned historical social behaviour. The predisposition was created from society and the people they associated with and it was deepened by Redpill. Instead of unlearning it by correctly identifying their behaviour as sexist, misogynistic, racist, bigoted, they double down that they must be right...because the structure of the world says so.

Redpill is just a new word for misogyny that's been around for centuries. This is not new as most bad ideas evolve with the time to remain resistant like a virus undergoing mutation.

We have a vast amount of data on the internet and the ones these redpillers choose to consume is only the information that supports their ideology. Majority of them are well past 18. Most kids know right from wrong by the time they are 10. They are a decade too late.

They didn't 'get redpilled'. They were disappointed in life and chose the Redpill. An option that had been around for centuries and was backed up by religion and culture.

If you need a comfy environment where all the structures are in your favour and you're always rewarded for all your efforts and given social approval to be a good person, you're weak. Because when that environment changes and no longer favours you, you have nothing of substance that makes you a good person. So what do you do when you no longer receive rewards? You destroy everything around you like a pampered baby.

I know people that grew up poor in abusive homes and unlearned every bad belief they had by the time they were 25. They were real hard people with big hearts because they knew what it was like to suffer and they never wanted that to happen to anyone ever again. They turned out to be better people than any of these whining crybabies that got hurt once and never moved on. Women are hurt left and right by men that manipulate them, lie to them, cheat on them, abandon them with babies and the vast majority of women do not treat men the same way those men treated them.

Men don't 'get redpilled'. They choose it.

And the men that choose it are weak men pretending to be strong because they don't have any actual accomplishments to justify being worth anything so they have to refer to ancient Greece, tribal warriors, and evo psych to show that they are worth something. They have to refer to a draft for war that may or may never happen in their life time to justify why they shouldn't have to do basic household chores every day. They tell women that they are putting their lives on the line (whenever the hell that happens) and women do the dishes every day. That's the contract.

Guess what is rarely listed in any of those things that make you great?

The strength of your character and how moral you are as a person.

I watched every redpill content I could get my hands on. I thought these guys were misguided but they weren't...They knew exactly what they were doing and they chose it.

JonF1 · 2023-06-01T12:22:51+00:00

Teenaged boys:

They're still kids. Of course the idea of becoming a millionaire free from rules with access to tons of hot women sounds cool, and these guys say you just have to do drops hopping, crypto, network, and hit the gym. All of the fuck school, establishment messages really speaks to 13 Kyle that doesn't want to do their trig homework.
School and society is failing to mentally and socially engage young boys. ~13 years of shut up learn doesn't really light up with boys' developmental needs. We question authority more, are need more physical interaction. Rewards such as high school athletics or becoming an engineer arrive way too late for boys who begin to mentally check on in elementary school.

Young men:

Improper socialization in adolescence. These are the boys who never did any after school activities, went to prom, parties, or really were made to do any peer group activities other than just going to school These guys grow up not only not knowing how to interact with their peers.
Too much time online. You cannot get an accurate idea of how people, let alone women are like from Reddit, discord, 4chan, twitter etc from other people who spend most of their time online as well.

Older men:

It's pretty much just divorce or making a bunch of money and wondering where the hoes at since we know HVM automatically get a woman

Lady_Beatnik · 2023-06-01T13:52:30+00:00

When you feel a lack of place in the world, it's easy to fall back on the "default roles" you feel society has given you, since it feels like the easy way out. For men, that default role is a misogynistic one due to our cultural history.

seeingredagain · 2023-06-01T02:22:03+00:00

Because in the past, all you had to do was get a steady job to get a woman. Women weren't allowed to own property or a bank account. Women were dependent on men for their very survival. Far too many women had to stay with worthless, abusive men because that's all they could do. Nowadays men actually have to offer something more than money, things like intelligence, empathy, a sense of humor and a lot of them just aren't capable. Men become red-pilled because they feel they are still owed a woman for just existing, even though they have nothing to offer. They cat call, they sexually harass and stalk and still can't get the object they feel they're owed. To these types of men, women are all the same. They should change everything about themselves to please men. They have no discernment in whom they pursue so they over-shoot their shot and get shot down, and it's always the woman's fault for daring to have standards. It's far easier to blame all women rather than reflect on themselves and make changes for the better. Narcissism, greed, and avarice are why men become red-pilled

xis21 · 2023-06-01T18:13:30+00:00

Chronic internet usage, lack of friends and female interaction. They become detached from reality and join the red pill cult.

larry_tron · 2023-06-01T09:42:41+00:00

Usually from the lack of success finding romantic relationships and feeling miserable about being lonely

Naus1987 · 2023-06-01T06:39:50+00:00

The most simple answer is, men don’t have a safe space to vent their grievances with women and dating.

If a woman is raped, she can curse all men as evil, and people will ignore the sexiest comments to comfort her (as they should!)

But if a man is raped, and he says all women are evil, he’ll immediately be confronted for being sexist.

The sad truth is, men just don’t have a safe space to vent. To vent and heal.

Red pill is toxic, because while it lets men vent, it doesn’t encourage them to heal past their anger. It just stirs the pot.

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And as long as there are hurt men, they will always need a safe space. Red pill is the only place a man can be angry at a woman and have his feeling he validated.

Mxchina · 2023-06-01T13:08:14+00:00

All these armchair sociologist comments are wrong.

I got into the redpill simply because some POS woman manipulated me for attention and it scarred my trust in women. I wanted to dehumanize them in retaliation simply because if I saw them as human again, I would be forced to trust and risk getting hurt. It was simply better to manipulate women at a supposed "lizard brain" level.

Redpill and FDS are the two faces of the same coin. The cycle of abuse perpetuates itself because assholes are drawn to the empathetic simply because that's what they needed before they became assholes. In doing so, they treat the empathetic partner horribly and create more monsters in the process.

That's all it is. Men reduce women to lizards that respond to SMV, and women reduce men to provider automations that respond to elegance. The dehumanization is a product of a fear of getting hurt. That's all it is.

Highland60 · 2023-06-01T14:05:33+00:00

Frustration.

wandering0101 · 2023-06-01T15:34:03+00:00

The red pill just seduce men to their cult because they use fears and doubts to exploit men's mental health. Men have past traumas with women and bad situations that they encountered with girls when they were young, and they just go to the redpill to feel comfort and hate women, just like the other counterpart.

Man and women saying that the opposite sex is "narcissist" a lot of grievance on those communities.

Public_Survey_6812 · 2023-06-01T08:52:24+00:00

Because it’s hard out there. The world is cruel. You can only get walked over and lied to so many times until you take the Red pill. And plus the double standards for men is awful aswell as mens mental health not really being taken seriously

kwanthony1986 · 2023-06-01T02:43:27+00:00

They tried turning a hoe into a housewife

Sabrepill · 2023-06-01T19:19:36+00:00

Any man with high enough standards and high enough iq and pattern recognition that dates for long enough and isn’t completely indoctrinated by woke, leftist, blue pilled, muppet, vegan, or feminist ideology begins getting red pilled

ZookeepergameMoist34 · 2023-06-01T19:57:17+00:00

First off, no one gets "red pilled". It's more that we change our way of thinking. We start to accept truths instead of focusing on exceptions.

Red pill is a praxiology, and thus you cannot BECOME it any more than you can become a bridge.

Men find the red pill useful often when they are desperate to know why what they are doing isn't working. Sometimes, I would even say most times, people will use it as a way to blame others for their problems.

The men who decide they want to digest the red pill and truly understand it find themselves far more useful than they were before they took that path.

Understand though... The real benefit of taking the red pill is that in order for it to be effective you have to accept that you will never be right again, but at least you'll be prepared to absorb more than others.

gracespraykeychain · 2023-06-01T20:55:59+00:00

As a woman, I can't speak from personal experience, but I think dating in some ways is more difficult for men.

Neatche · 2023-06-01T21:17:05+00:00

Father generation of current redpillers had toxic masculine fathers (((JBP))) telling them, quite coldly to "be a man and fuck dames" when the times obviously gave women social rights, like economic freedom so they would not be dependent on getting married and babytrapped.

Title	Why do men get redpilled?
Author	FixDifficult752
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Date	June 1, 2023 1:43 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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