Why do Red Pillers hate western women?

Grappleheart · 2022-04-30T21:49:32+00:00

Red pillers hate women in the western world because the existence of there free choice makes them feel subpar. In a culture where women can freely choose their partners not being chosen usually means that 50 percent of the population found you inadequate.

Red piller will get around this situation by insulting female choice (women want bad boys, they don't know what is good for them).

In less developed countries women rarely have access to true relationship choice so they can essentially buy a wife with their passport and the exchange rate. They can outcompete locals due to American Privilege.

mammajess · 2022-05-01T03:46:32+00:00

They want to believe women are different in another country, it's a fantasy that somewhere else there are living sex dolls who will capitulate to their need for narcissistic adulation. Often they target East Asian women for their fantasy. This is very funny for me as someone married into Korean culture and who has dated a Chinese man before. East Asian women have HIGHER standards than Western women. Where Western women might prefer a taller man or one with money often East Asian women will not even talk to someone below their very precise standard at all to discover if he has any other qualities of interest. And they can be pretty rude about it because marriage is less "romantic" in East Asia because less time has passed since marriage was purely a business arrangement or the merging of two families. And there is sense to the rudeness therefore because there isn't so much "dating" culture so women don't really want to waste time with a man who cannot give her the things she wants, which is especially important because women in East Asia only recently have their work options opening up to them. So when dudes fantasise about Asian women it makes me laugh, because I as a Western woman was the fantasy of escape from dehumanisingly high standards of East Asian women for East Asian men XD.

uuuggghhhhhh9 · 2022-04-30T22:45:46+00:00

That’s exactly what they hate. They loathe autonomous women that think for themselves or have the option to support themselves and don’t have to settle for their mediocrity, so they use the term “western women” to avoid saying that. They have an obsessive contempt for ”modern western women” because they aren’t subservient robotic slaves who “know their place”.

They try to say it’s because western women are the mediocre ones who are spoiled stuck-up sluts, but ironically, the East Asian and Eastern European women that they fetishize aren’t these perfect abstinent obedient tradwives either.

GoWest7 · 2022-04-30T21:40:49+00:00

Because most of them are unmarried, angry bachelors who refuse any responsibility towards a wife, marriage, or kids.

They want the least amount of responsibility and the most pleasure & enjoyment for themselves.

They're more attracted to the idea of being served by a woman than giving anything back or to a woman. That's disgusting to them. It's really all about them.

So, yeah. Western women are too much "high maintenance" and the men aren't into maintenance/responsibility anymore. Just my opinion.

Lady_Beatnik · 2022-04-30T22:32:14+00:00

Because they stereotype non-Western women as still being submissive, obedient, and traditional.

BKLD12 · 2022-04-30T21:48:09+00:00

There are a lot of guys who hate independent women who have ideas of their own and won't say and do everything that their partner wants them to. They have this weird idea that other women (especially East Asian and Slavic women for some reason) will drop everything to serve their "master," so to speak.

They often get a rude awakening when they do travel outside of their home country.

I'm not sure if there's any reason beyond this.

Red_Trapezoid · 2022-05-01T07:24:16+00:00

The same reason why more out of touch teenage weebs think Japan is an anime utopia. And if they were to only to live there then their lives would be perfect and they would be fully accepted, inappropriate behavior and all. Redpillers are familiar with "western women" in the sense that they are familiar with getting justifiably rejected and looked at like scum by those women.

The East is foreign, exotic, mysterious and the redpiller has met fewer of those women, so they're easier to dream about. "They must be so feminine and submissive! They would appreciate a high value man such as myself!" This mentality is way older than you might think. I would recommend you research Orientalist paintings, they are fascinating. The "Orient"(a vague Asian place that never really existed) has been a place white men especially have been entranced by for ages. It's all kinds if problematic but the art is quite something.

They may even travel to such countries and be dazzled, not realizing that there is a difference between living somewhere and going on holiday somewhere. They may have even gotten some attention from desperate women looking for a meal ticket in some of the poorer countries. Or played by prostitutes keeping it on the down low. I get the impression that some of these guys who end up moving to these countries don't seem to realize that they are sexpats. They seem to think the women just "appreciate them more".

There is actually a similar phenomenon with skeevy American women dreaming of and fetishizing Italian men.

In summary, these guys are losers who are convinced the grass must be greener somewhere else. I have know several such people growing up and shamefully I was one of those people for a short while, although thankfully I did not make the mistake of trying to travel, I just privately dreamed of an IRL anime waifu woman who was waiting for me in Japan.

RedPillDetox · 2022-04-30T21:42:54+00:00

Because they won't have sex with them. Next question...

Naus1987 · 2022-05-01T02:06:43+00:00

I don't know if it's a western thing specifically. I would argue that people who're seeking long-term relationships are frustrated with people who practice hook-up culture.

There's a lot of growing pains as hook-up culture becomes more established, and people who haven't accepted that change yet are often blind-sided, and that's annoying.

SithQueenGigi · 2022-05-01T02:22:37+00:00

Western women are known for being independent, outspoken and smart since we have the choice to attend any school we want , hey if we want to be a lawyer we will go for it or if we want to be a politician or entrepreneur. They always feel intimidated by women who make more money which is weird don't you want a women who can afford to pay her bills and has her head on straight who knows what she wants in her life and relationships. Nah all these men want are young naive women to control which is sad they will end up hurting those young ladies I'm 24 so I know how it is for older men to manipulate us. It's funny when they travel abroad and think that foreign women are all submissive then that idea fades real fast lol.

xXMachineWomanXx · 2022-05-01T03:44:48+00:00

Because they somehow think that foreign women want to put up with their bs.

Philipparty · 2022-05-01T09:57:42+00:00

Everyone saying its cause they dont like their free choice is right, but there are some more.

One is that high economic inequality has been linked to driving female sexualisation. USA, has that problem. And looking at instagram/tiktok/OF there are some signs of this. Not that this means these women disserve any disrespect. But to a redpiller, watching women use their attraction to climb past them pribably pisses them off.

Someone else here mentioned theyre probably also stereotyping eastern women based on anime. Insecure, wifey/traditional, dependent, etc. The west would then be the opposite.

incredulitor · 2022-04-30T22:17:54+00:00

It places things that susceptible young men think they want, but can't get, into another person, and then sets the other person up as an object of hatred and envy. It's the same thing as white racists who want to paint Black men as inferior but also virile, uninhibited and rapaciously interested in white women, as if the actual historical situation wasn't more the other way around. One obvious effect in both cases - racist white men vs Black people, or sexist redpilled men vs women - is that it blocks understanding the other person... but that's by design. Diligently failing to understand that the other person is a human being who's neither a storehouse of all the fun you don't get to have, nor the fault of everything wrong with the world keeps it so that you don't have to understand your own culpability in any failures yet to come, or the sheer number of things about other people and their responses to you that are not fundamentally in your control.

Carloverguy20 · 2022-04-30T22:06:22+00:00

They hate western women, because Western women have more freedom and oppourtunities, so they think that going to foreign countries, means that they can get away with what they can't do to women in the Western world.

They want a submissive doormat who can't stand up for herself.

They think that they can get foreign women easily, without putting in the work.

Meiguishui · 2022-05-01T03:22:27+00:00

Because western women know they’re losers.

Melvin-Melon · 2022-05-01T05:47:30+00:00

Because they’ve realized in a culture where they have to be wanted instead of just being needed, women will not settle for the bare minimum as often.

JSBelle · 2022-04-30T21:21:40+00:00

Frankly, because they are being stupid and they think other women will be their sex slaves and clean the house.

“Western women” will expect men to act grown up and they want something for nothing.

Impossible-Bank-1697 · 2022-04-30T22:45:48+00:00

They have free choose so they’re not choosing them lol very simple really.

Volleyballer_939 · 2022-05-01T04:40:18+00:00

Women are the same everywhere in the world. Western women are free to choose and TRP knows they will never be loved by the privileged modern western woman, so they think that dating a less privileged woman will give them the leverage they would not otherwise have. They don't think they can be loved pretty sad to feel that way.

Rhianu · 2022-05-01T06:10:14+00:00

Because Western women are feminists, and feminists believe in equality and equal rights. Red Pillers want an obedient slave who they can dominate and control completely.

At least, this is the reasoning that goes on inside their heads.

Slow_Watercress4054 · 2022-05-03T14:58:10+00:00

They hate them because they have rights and their own financial stability which gives them the ability to walk away from being treated like shit by men like them who want to treat women like shit

Knave_of_Opossums · 2022-05-05T02:15:48+00:00

Women who grew up in one of the safest, wealthiest nations in the world. Women who had access to top-notch education and could always find a job at any age if they wanted to support themselves. Women who could travel anywhere in the world visa-free and learn any language they wanted. Women who never worried about having a roof over their head.

That's why. These are women who are not as dependent on men and have a degree of freedom and autonomy. They can't be as easily controlled and actually have bargaining power in a relationship. For those men who want to control women, this is their worst nightmare.

xvszero · 2022-04-30T23:08:31+00:00

Because most of them are conservative asshats and they think feminism "ruined" women in the West by making them too liberal.

JUMPsuperstar · 2022-04-30T23:05:15+00:00

Red pillers lump all western women as feminists. Soy boy mentality.

RemarkableMention712 · 2024-03-07T05:42:26+00:00

The complaints from redpill men about Western women usually sound the same. They say their standards for men are too high, they don’t bring anything to the table, they are unfaithful/unfeminine, too promiscuous, etc.

Difficult_Fox_7240 · 2024-03-11T15:14:21+00:00

Because they’re more likely feminist independent boss babes that don’t men are needed in society and want us dead.. fuck them. Thats why take yall single independent asses to another country and create the new themyscria. You all can be single independent boss Babes all by yourself.. no men around at all in society, just women.

may_seven · 2022-04-30T21:08:07+00:00

lol try one and see.

Gaddammitkyle · 2022-05-18T06:01:25+00:00

Because they were told in a video to hate western women.

Title	Why do Red Pillers hate western women?
Author	difficultconcept
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Date	April 30, 2022 8:39 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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