Lib Feminism is a coping mechanism that doesn't actually change anything for women worldwide.

AyemHerself · 2021-06-02T02:47:51+00:00

That last line reminds me of an old Microsoft joke:

How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they just make darkness the new standard!

eru378 · 2021-06-02T03:35:59+00:00

The attitude that "feminism is about a woman's right to choose" forecloses any possibility of discussion, debate, or questioning and absolutely encourages the absence of critical engagement. It's a great rhetorical move, really - set up the idea that feminism is anything a woman chooses to do or be or say, continuously expand the bounds of what can be plausibly labelled "feminist", push back on anyone who tries to draw a line at any point by calling them exclusionary or bigoted or illiberal or simply anti-feminist, and now everything is feminist and nothing is.

2021-06-02T02:24:20+00:00

You know for the longest time, Ive always seen representation of liberal feminism and I personally never agreed with it and low-key felt like I was a fraud in women's rights. I always thought it was promoting the wrong type of confidence and you know getting on FDS really assured me that lib feminism isn't it. Im happy that I am part of a sub that really reminds me to love myself and that I don't need to over sexualize myself because at the end of the day its for male gaze not for me.

Emergency-Feed8216 · 2021-06-02T09:19:28+00:00

"They just wanna get comfortable with their oppression."

Is that why many of the genuinely, scarily beautiful women I've known tend to be radfem? I think there's really no way to reason with being repeatedly followed onto elevators, physically yanked into doorways on the street and repeatedly criminally stalked so that it gets "more comfortable," right?

zazaleaz · 2021-06-02T12:52:05+00:00

Liberal feminism functions like a coping mechanism for these women. When a person is stuck in a situation, sometimes she will find a way to make it ok mentally rather than trying to change it or get out of it. Sometimes this involves some complicated mental gymnastics to convince yourself you like the way things are. Particularly in cases like our lives under patriarchy, where it might seem like there is no way out, finding a way to make it tolerable in your mind is a way to cope with it. People hang onto their coping mechanisms furiously, which is one reason it's so hard to talk to them about what is wrong with the way they're thinking about feminism.

jesusbatman · 2021-06-02T02:10:46+00:00

Virtue signaling parrots.

kreutzwortraetzel · 2021-06-02T05:14:15+00:00

I always thought it was "okay for other people".

I always knew I didn't want to be a sex worker, online or offline. I didn't want to try BDSM. I would never open up a relationship if I knew he would sleep around like crazy or he would judge me for using the agreement. I thought porn doesn't hurt anyone.

It worked fine for me. I didn't like something, I didn't do it. I didn't care if scrotes were mad. My right to choose, I chose decent men.

But I thought these things were modern and benefiting the people who choose them for themselves.

I still think for a few people, that's the way it is. They want it, they choose it, they're happy with it.

Then I wondered why so many women chose to engage in these things but we're unhappy and still continued.

I'm just starting to see many women don't freely seek out these situations. Many are groomed into them, coerced or pressured using manipulation and financial abuse. I'm just starting to think about liberal feminism from an outside perspective because of FDS.

When you grow up with a frame of thought, that's all you know. A fish doesn't know he swims in water.

SqueaksScreech · 2021-06-02T08:23:10+00:00

I always see WOC identify as womenists instead of feminist because they have to fight for their own rights.

Then it hit me why I never liked or agreed to White leftists. They don't care about us and most of them are from middle class or upper middle class families. They didn't have to face food insecurity or racism like people of color or white people who lived in poverty. They painted the community pink and stereotyped the rest of us and use us as props. We're the "black friend" or the "latina friend" etc.

Womenist openly talk about the problems that are happening in our communities and actively fight back. They're woke when it benefits white women.

They stereotype us when it comes to immigration policies and use "without Mexicans you won't have gardeners or someone to clean your toilet". Or "without black women you wouldn't have ........." or how about "without asians you wouldn't have chinese take out".

They got plastic straws banned without realizing it affects those who are disabled and demonized the lower class and lower middle class for using them instead of holding large corporations accountable. The same corporations that exploit POC. They ignore the indigenous women going missing around the pipe line, modern segregated schools, housing segregation, the coca cola massacres, the fruit company hiring the us government to start the guatemalan genocide, the forced sterilization at the border, the missing foster children every month but they dont care it ain't white people being affected. No they turn a blind lie.

They use "feminism" when it benefits them and settle with wearing pink hats and walking naked at a march. The rest of us don't get to due that. We have to fight for the right to live. They use us when they want to seem as "open minded" and feed their white savior complex.

They gentrify our homes and kick us out when we fight back we're called racist and sexist for not "empowering women" but when WOC start small businesses or organizations they give us shit for our prices and our fight for change.

MissGalaxy1986 · 2021-06-02T08:09:42+00:00

Rather they want to get comfortable with the psychological dissonance.

No self-respecting female truly believes from deep down in her heart in lib fem. That’s why so many of my friends including myself would say “I believe in women’s rights but I’m not a feminist”.

Ever since discovering FDS (which has been LIFE CHANGING and its already helped make a big difference not only in my dating life) I’ve realized now that I am a hardcore feminist...

I now find myself critically thinking about women’s rights regularly including in the shower!! Part of the patriarchal oppression is to keep us from thinking about and defining feminism. @eru378 said it well here that part of it is the “anything goes” mentality so we have no idea wtf it even is... only that it has to be some bs “empowering” (for the male that is...)

We’ve offer cheap labor (during WW2 women made a 40% of what men did in the same factory job), cheap sex and free house-cleaning services and now that the tide is shifting men are freaking out and doing anything they can to keep us oppressed. I think psychological dissonance is the last stage to freedom... we are heading in the right direction!!!

ElevatedEmpress · 2021-06-02T10:01:59+00:00

Yes! Liberal feminism is making the “best” of a bad situation while upholding the bad situation, while radfems want to dismantle what is keeping us in it!

four_q · 2021-06-02T02:36:24+00:00

She said it 🙏🏻

ItsFreezen · 2021-06-02T11:06:56+00:00

"They don't want to change"
This 100%

chickenlesnugget · 2021-06-02T10:33:35+00:00

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Title	Lib Feminism is a coping mechanism that doesn't actually change anything for women worldwide.
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Date	June 2, 2021 1:54 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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