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ROFLMAO SCIENCE CONFIRMS WHAT WE ALREADY ALL KNOW: Research paper says "Men rate themselves as more attractive than they really are"

CoolMelonade

December 5, 2019
175 upvotes
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think
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Title ROFLMAO SCIENCE CONFIRMS WHAT WE ALREADY ALL KNOW: Research paper says "Men rate themselves as more attractive than they really are"
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CoolMelonade

Upvotes 175
Comments 46
Date December 5, 2019 12:42 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/e6gnqe/roflmao_science_confirms_what_we_already_all_know/
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[–]CuriousCatNYC777Ruthless Strategist 147 points148 points149 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Anytime a guys says he’s average looking I already know he’s extraordinarily unattractive.

[–]ino_y 59 points60 points61 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well the 'average' body is overweight so.. yup :P

[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist 35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh uh I have a great dad bod.......gross

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Well, no one's ever complained before." 🙄

If a moid rates himself. I immediately divide the score in half to get the real truth. His self-rated attractiveness score is obsolete. He's not the one that has to fuck him ,and he's not the one that has to kiss him :/

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I also subtract 2 points for each instance of:

- TRP/Redpill or incel language.

- Misogyny

- Cheapness, loserness, NEETness.

- Poor hygiene

​

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Yes they can have negative attractiveness scores, and yes, a score lower than zero means RUN! HE'S ESCALATING IN HIDEOUSNESS! RUN!!!

[–]Loiacono3137 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂

[–]GCchick 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

haha so true...

[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist 93 points94 points95 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

The bearded ones seem to suffer worse from this. I can't stand a beard, so my dating pool is SUPER limited. A week's worth of growth doesn't bother me and I don't hate a small moustache, but some of these dudes are channeling Santa and I can't. I even hate a well groomed goatee. I guess I need to get used to being single haha

[–]Liz_LemondropRuthless Strategist 68 points69 points70 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had a guy that I was talking to on OLD who was obsessed with his ratty ass beard. I eventually told him to stop texting me. Having a beard is not a personality

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

obsessed with his ratty ass beard.

those are the WORST. They smell like shit too. It's rare to find a moid with a trophy beard that actually washes it daily, with SOAP.

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The bearded ones seem to suffer worse from this. I can't stand a beard, so my dating pool is SUPER limited.

IDK who is behind the rize of these ridiculous trophy beards that are huge and apparently they take time to grow and shape them.

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Dude, NO! Anything more than a light to medium stubble is going to turn off most women :/

[–]hoIds_up_sporkFDS Disciple 48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

they have weak chins and no jawline

[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true. I had an ex from way back come back into my life, but he had a beard this time. I told him he'd have to shave it if we were going to be serious again. He actually did and he had a bad double chin. The beard looked better LOL. I told him he could keep the beard if he kept it short. Of course, he didn't, IT WAS GROSS, and he also had no interest in sex whatsoever. I eventually dumped him for the sex issue after MONTHS of warning him to figure that shit out or at least talk to me about it. He acted shocked haha. This idiot quit an amazing job and moved almost 2,000 miles to be with me in my state only to get dumped because he had no libido whatsoever. Just WHY?!

[–]reddituser39682 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally it makes them look like a cult leader rapist.

[–]kidlocaFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I read somewhere once that during the Victorian era there was a kind of "crisis of masculinity" where mid/upper class men weren't doing so much physical labor or exercise and growing a lumberjack-style beard was a way for them to feel manly.

I personally sometimes like a VERY well kept beard on a man but it has to be so clean and trimmed. I have a male friend that has a kind of goatee and he grosses me out every time he eats because he walks away from the meal with food and sauce all crusted up in it. Because I see him like that, I'm less interested in dating a dude with a beard.

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

he grosses me out every time he eats because he walks away from the meal with food and sauce all crusted up in it. Because I see him like that, I'm less interested in dating a dude with a beard.

My male cousin walks around with crumbs and shit all over his "trophy beard". Dude looks like a Sheikh. IT'S UGLY AF, MAN! Shave that shit off, anything thicker than a "Drake" beard is a turn off for most women and will likely attract gay men, sorry/not sorry!

[–]Winter_InevitableFDS STRATEGY COACH 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

ngl, if a guy is hot, the beard looks good. But somehow a bunch of average assholes decided that a beard was going to make them a stud, and uhhh, no.

[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Very rarely I will see a hot guy be able to pull off both and be interested either way.

[–]Winter_InevitableFDS STRATEGY COACH 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup, very true. my FWB looks super hot with a beard, and WAY too young without one...

[–]TheLastUBenderFDS Disciple 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I give the guys that grow and groom those full-on hipster beards props for the sheer commitment, but they don't actually look good. I think we all just got Stockholm syndrome since they were so ubiquitous for a while.

[–]plutunic 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

beards are an absolute dealbreaker for me. how ugly can your face be that you want to hide half of it?

my Husband's jawline is fire.

[–]missyou20174 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Well, I like beards. But not everyone can pull off the look.

[–]grimreapersdtr 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The bearded ones seem to suffer worse from this.

I was actually OK (not thrilled) but OK with beards back when the men who had them often kept them well kept. Circa 2008, it became some kind of manosphere BS, and I have increasingly disliked them ever since.

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[–]rftw2013Ruthless Strategist[🍰] 75 points76 points77 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When you tell them that their sexual performance isn't up to par, their favorite response is "Well, no one's ever complained before." 🙄

[–]ChristieFoxFDS Apprentice 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I imagine a toddler putting hands over his ears every time I hear a guy talking about how "no one ever complained" about his performance.

[–]reddituser39682 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They never complained.. but did they fuck you again? Ha

[–]rftw2013Ruthless Strategist[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

[–]MuttonDressedAsGooseFDS Disciple 38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I read the same thing years ago. Men do think they look better than they do. Women do the opposite

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men do think they look better than they do.

I LAUGH when a moid rates himself. Especially on TRP subreddits like. They'll say shit like "I'm easily a 6", when we all know to divide a moid's self-rated score in half to get the actual truth. Moids who claim they're a 6 are actually 3's. Ones who swear they're 10s are actually 5s. The real 10s don't rate themselves on a numerical scale :/ and they certainly don't go around saying shit like "she's an HB 8, hOw dO I sPiN pLaTeS?!?".

[–]justcougit 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk. I always picture myself as super hot and then see a mirror and I'm like "oh, oop, yupp, lookin real shit."

[–]Loiacono3137 45 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lmao truly delusional

Women are so hard on themselves

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are so hard on themselves

We are so insecure and SO MANY of us (including me, sometimes) suffer from low self-esteem or go in and out of depression.

[–]plutunic 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

is there anything men's egos don't completely derail, obfuscate or lie to them about? jfc this is pathetic.

[–]Uglyoldncranky1982FDS Newbie 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm rational enough to know I'm an uggo and I accept what I am. Men apparently need to live in delusions.

Why do they have all the power again?

[–]extraacct1234Ruthless Strategist 43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Because Peepee rape stick

Edit: and the inferiority of not being able to perpetuate their own genes or create life while we can.

[–]reddituser39682 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's literally all it boils down to lmao.

[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

“Men who rated themselves as more attractive were more likely to rate others (both women and men) as more attractive. Women, on the other hand, showed no such difference.”

I see this in incel threads where good-looking, secure men will trot in all cavalier and be like, “just lift and take a shower, bro!” like that’ll just fix everything. The experience of being unattractive is totally alien to men who’ve always enjoyed the privileges of good looks, and it really irritates these less facially and height fortunate guys. I’m not saying we should dwell on what we can’t change, instead of changing what we can. It’s good to offer tips that are actually helpful. But it’s like the good-looking ones are willfully ignorant of having won the genetic lottery and won’t acknowledge the uphill battle less attractive men face at all, and even with improvements, some guys (and women) are not going to have things come as easily to them.

At least (generally) women will be empathetic to that reality and acknowledge it, before offering self-improvement advice.

[–]dackarooRuthless Strategist -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I find it weird how everyone shits on incels for being incorrect about everything. Even though their attitude sucks, their fundamental premise--that looks matter--is very, very true. I swear when I found that sub I thought "These guys have figured it out. They have uncovered the mystery of what women want. And it's the same thing everyone wants." Of course looks aren't all that matter, and the more mature a person is, the more things they look for in a partner, but it never stops mattering, and the more self aware someone is, woman or man, the more they will accept this basic truth.

[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d argue that women are more concerned with resources and good behavior than looks (men are very much about looks, so that’s going to make it difficult for an unattractive gay man to secure a steady partner without bringing serious game to the table)- most women don’t want to date a stingy modelesque guy with bad behavior, so an average looking guy who is generous and kind is preferable- but, that being said, yes, looks do factor in to a certain point....i.e., obese, very short or very facially unattractive men will have a rough time (though again, not as much as obese or facially unattractive women). And that’s something I think (most) attractive women grasp better than attractive men do.

[–]dackarooRuthless Strategist 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being concerned with resources and behavior is a practical accommodation to our social landscape and strength sifferences between the sexes, though. We all, as humans, instinctively want attractive partners.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's true, but distilled down it ends up being untrue. The true message is: people need to be attracted to one another, and the more conventionally attractive you are, the more dating options you'll have with equally conventionally attractive people. What this logic misses though are conventionally unattractive people who date each other and find one another attractive. Sure, the whole world might find them ugly but who cares - they're in love and they're good enough for one another. Incels are unattractive men who believe they DESERVE a woman who is waaaaay more attractive than them. They dont want to "settle" for someone in their own league.

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly why I tell ya'll to lie about your sexual past. By the time you lay your eyes on him in person, he's already lied to you dozens of times.

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:/

[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

stupid ass dudes overestimate their worth.

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THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND DUDES ARE A PENNY A DOZEN.

[–]CoolMelonadeRuthless Strategist[S,M] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please remove incel language - thanks

[–]ofearthlydelight1 point 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

LMFAOOOOOOO now all these “i’m decent looking but still can’t find a girlfriend :(” post on the dating advice page make sense. they ugly af

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