The RaTiOnaL Sex

marimare21 · 2021-04-22T22:41:26+00:00

For those blocked by paywall, emphasis mine:

Holly Elgison and Len Schillaci are a mixed vaxxed couple, and they are far from alone.

“I was always going to get the vaccine, 100 percent,” said Ms. Elgison, a medical claims auditor in Valrico, Fla.

Her husband, a disaster insurance adjuster, said he will pass. “To be honest with you, I think that the worst of Covid is behind us,” Mr. Schillaci said. “I’m good.”

As the Biden administration seeks to get 80 percent of adult Americans immunized by summer, the continuing reluctance of men to get a shot could impede that goal.

Women are getting vaccinated at a far higher rate — about 10 percentage points — than men, even though the male-female divide is roughly even in the nation’s overall population. The trend is worrisome to many, especially as vaccination rates have dipped a bit recently.

The reasons for the U.S. gender gap are many, reflecting the role of women in specific occupations that received early vaccine priority, political and cultural differences and long standing patterns of women embracing preventive care more often generally than men.

The gap exists even as Covid-19 deaths worldwide have been about 2.4 times higher for men than among women. And the division elucidates the reality of women’s disproportionate role in caring for others in American society.

“It could matter to localized herd immunity,” said Alison Buttenheim, an associate professor of nursing at the University of Pennsylvania and expert on vaccine hesitancy. “While most experts are fretting about larger gaps by race, political party, religion and occupational group,” she said, many of which overlap with the gender disparities, “I haven’t heard of any specific initiatives to target men.”

In Los Angeles County, where 44 percent of women over 16 have gotten their first shot — compared with 30 percent of men — officials are scrambling to figure out how to do just that.

“We are very concerned about it and are planning to embark on some targeted outreach among men,” said Dr. Paul Simon, the chief science officer at the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health, who said that the disparities are of particular concern for Black and Latino men. Only 19 percent of Black males in Los Angeles County and 17 percent of Latino males have received at least one dose of the vaccine, compared with 35 percent of Asian men and 32 percent of white men, according to the most recent data available from early this month.

“We don’t fully understand it,” Dr. Simon said. “One of our messaging strategies will be that the vaccine is not only important for you but, in addition, is a means of protecting others in your family.”

In Los Angeles County, 44 percent of women over 16 had gotten their first shot — compared with about 30 percent of men.

The early divisions in vaccine rates by gender could largely be explained by demographics. Americans over 70 got the first sets of doses, and women make up a larger proportion of that age group. In many states, health care workers and schoolteachers were also given vaccine priority: Women account for three-quarters of full-time health care workers and over 75 percent of public schoolteachers in the United States are female.).

The disparities show both where women do the paid and unpaid labor of life. For instance, women lost the majority of the earliest jobs in food services, retail businesses, health care and government jobs. The mothers among them have done most of the work in the shift to remote schooling and caring for parents and sick relatives.

The combination may have increased their vaccine motivation in two ways: They are seeking to protect the rest of their family and they are desperate to get back in the work force. Indeed, just as women drove the job losses last year, they are leading the economic recovery now; roughly half a million women joined the labor force in March, in part because in-person schooling has resumed across much of the country.

“In addition to women being disproportionately represented in several essential jobs,” said Pilar Gonalons-Pons, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in gender issues, “they are also disproportionately represented as unpaid caregivers for older adults in their families and communities, and this can also be an additional motivation for getting the vaccine.”

In many ways, the pattern with vaccines reflects longstanding gender differences when it comes to preventive health care. Women are on average more likely to get annual physicals than men, even when adjusted for pre-existing health conditions and other factors, and are more likely than men to get preventive care.

Men are more likely than women to engage in behaviors that hurt their health — like heavy drinking, smoking and illicit drug use — and are more overweight compared to women. Men are less likely to visit doctors regularly and go to the emergency room in a crisis and to get basic dental care, according to federal data. Vaccines are no exception: Historically, influenza vaccination is much higher among females — about 63 percent compared to 53 percent — though the gap narrows in Americans over 75 years old.

The coronavirus vaccine “is the latest expression of the tried-and-true gender gap we’ve long witnessed in preventive health care seeking patterns,” said Lindsey Leininger, a health policy researcher and clinical professor at Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College.

But experts say that even in the context of general male health care recalcitrance, there may be some factors that are specific to this vaccine that are preventing more male shots in arms. Because the sign up has been cumbersome and confusing, men may have had less patience in navigating the system, which has largely taken place online, a process that women might find easier since they tend to get more of their health care information online.

“We have to figure out if disparities are about access, if men are having more difficulty navigating the appointment systems,” Mr. Simon of Los Angeles said.

Further, when it comes to the coronavirus — which has been the subject of rampant misinformation, evolving medical advice and politicization — other dynamics may be at work.

“Some men have a sense that they are not necessarily susceptible,” Mr. Simon said health care workers have told officials. “They have weathered this for more than a year and have a sense of omnipotence.”

lucidlotus · 2021-04-23T00:34:56+00:00

Just tell them Covid has been linked to erectile dysfunction. They'll take it.

Many men are so arrogant that they think they're smarter than everyone else. That's the problem.

destineygray · 2021-04-22T23:32:08+00:00

I notice how whenever people talk on reddit about anti vaxxers they talk about ‘karens’ and characterise the movement as ‘bored stay at home moms’, yet women are less likely to refuse vaccines lol

Platipus6 · 2021-04-22T23:50:05+00:00

Because the sign up has been cumbersome and confusing, men may have had less patience in navigating the system, which has largely taken place online

Change it to porn search terms and I bet they could find it. Or clickbait on the sidebar for sexy nurses in your area 😂

Pasdepromesses · 2021-04-23T10:33:10+00:00

“We don’t fully understand it,” Dr. Simon said. “One of our messaging strategies will be that the vaccine is not only important for you but, in addition, is a means of protecting others in your family.”

This sweet summer child. He truly believes that protecting their loved ones might motivate men to get the vaccine.

Scrotes DGAF.

Equipoisonous · 2021-04-23T16:01:00+00:00

Her husband, a disaster insurance adjuster, said he will pass. “To be honest with you, I think that the worst of Covid is behind us,” Mr. Schillaci said. “I’m good.”

The worst of covid is behind us because people are getting vaccinated. How incredibly selfish to take the benefit of herd immunity without contributing to it (if you are able to). It’s like refusing to pay into social security but still expecting the checks to start arriving when you turn 65.

RabidWench · 2021-04-23T06:50:00+00:00

In many ways, the pattern with vaccines reflects longstanding gender differences when it comes to preventive health care. Women are on average more likely to get annual physicals than men, even when adjusted for pre-existing health conditions and other factors, and are more likely than men to get preventive care.

Men are more likely than women to engage in behaviors that hurt their health — like heavy drinking, smoking and illicit drug use — and are more overweight compared to women. Men are less likely to visit doctors regularly and go to the emergency room in a crisis and to get basic dental care, according to federal data. Vaccines are no exception: Historically, influenza vaccination is much higher among females — about 63 percent compared to 53 percent — though the gap narrows in Americans over 75 years old.

This resonates with me especially right now, given the research we've been seeing about women being caregivers for the men who fuck themselves up, and men just peacing out when the roles are reversed. I saw an ad on YouTube yesterday; it was a couple doing things, running errands together and the wife was talking to the camera about how when your husband gets lung cancer you'll be spending a lot of time together but not in the way you think. It made me so unbelievably angry on behalf of women everywhere (again) that the assumption is for her to become his nurse and scheduler (ohhhhh yes, she was the one talking to secretaries at doctors' offices, and helping his ass in and out of cars when he's not even on portable oxygen - yes, I looked bc my inner nurse was like why does he need help??). And later when he lays dying in the family home (as my father in law did from lung cancer), she will be expected to clean him when he shits the bed, feed him nourishing meals when the nausea allows, schedule the home hospice visits, and generally carry on with life in every other area.

Ladies, if your partner/husband/boyfriend refuses to take care of his own health, it is a giant neon sign that he doesn't care about YOU or your time either. He will fully expect you to spend your valuable time managing his illnesses when they come around in addition to managing your home. Do not settle for this. Ever. Either he steps up and owns his own health and living environment, or you withdraw from his life.

tellmesomething11 · 2021-04-22T23:43:45+00:00

Hmmm, nothing mentioned about black and Latinos being unwilling to take the vaccine because of past medical wrongs and then being infected with diseases or sterilized. The stories do pass down from generation to generation, even if they aren’t mentioned in print anymore. There’s a lot of mistrust w the medical community, why not acknowledge that and let people know they understand their fears? Sigh.

AcadiaLeather5071 · 2021-04-23T01:15:04+00:00

Lmao at this point it’s just natural selection. Men are a meme.

amhran_oiche · 2021-04-23T03:42:43+00:00

LET THEM GET SICK THEN 🤷‍♀️

zazaleaz · 2021-04-23T13:47:52+00:00

Toxic masculinity at its stupidest. Der der der, if I take care of my health my idiot buddies will think I'm gay!

rideoffalone · 2021-04-23T19:52:44+00:00

If these percentages were switched, men on Reddit wouldn't be able to shut up about all the "Karens."

steingrrrl · 2021-04-23T17:52:49+00:00

Holly Elgison and Len Schillaci are a mixed vaxxed couple

insert Annalise Keating purse gif here

The RaTiOnaL Sex

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Holly Elgison and Len Schillaci are a mixed vaxxed couple, and they are far from alone.

As often happens in life, men may find their gaps covered by women. “To the extent most people live and socialize in a mixed-gender setting, the men will benefit from the higher coverage among women,” Ms. Buttenheim said.

Title	The RaTiOnaL Sex
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