Why you should NEVER go 50/50 on a date: Breaking down the most common argument (Part. 4)

This is a continuation of these posts:

Why you should NEVER go 50/50 (Part 1)

Why you should NEVER go 50/50 (Part 2)

Why you should NEVER go 50/50 (Part 3)

Thank you so much to /u/Hannyy101/ for bringing this up and inspire me to create this post!

Also tagging our awesome mods u/Phoenix__Rising2018/ and u/electroloop/

This time we will be focusing on the most popular argument used by scrotes and pickmes when you refuse to entertain the 50/50 bullshit.

If you have anymore arguments by both men and women that you would like for me to break down, leave it in the comment section and I would address them in the next part(s).

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8) When the man asks "What do you bring to the table?"

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• First and foremost, if any men ever ask you this question on a date - know that he is definitely a LVM/NVM and probably a Feminina as well - so that's your cue to up and leave, bathroom and ghost, block and delete.
• Don't waste your time arguing with these men - they aren't there to listen to you, they just want to neg, gaslight and manipulate you. They don't care what you "bring to the table" - they just want to take you down a peg so that they can feel good about themselves.
• A true HV masculine man already knows how much value you will bring to his life - that's why he asked you out on a date. He is not there to size you up or make you "prove your worth" - he already done the cost-benefit analysis beforehand and decide that you are definitely worth his investment.
• u/curlywurlyprincess/ said it best:

A woman is the table. The man has to bring something to her and make sure she feels comfortable, happy and safe. A woman automatically enriches a man’s life by choosing to be with him. We’re not the same.

• So my breakdowns here is not meant to be used as points to counter scrotes' arguments.
• NEVER ARGUE WITH MEN AND PICKMES, JUST WALK AWAY! I REPEAT, JUST WALK AWAY!!
• These points are for YOU : it is for you to internalize and reflect on what your role is as the feminine counterpart in relationship, and why you are already worthy without needing to "prove" your worth.
• These are the reasons why you are born as a woman - and why you don't need to take over the man's job in the relationship, why you are the receiver, why you are meant to be protected and provided for.

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HERE'S THE THING: MEN CAN NEVER SEE US AS PERFECT EQUALS, LIKE HOW THEY SEE THEIR FELLOW MEN - HENCE THEY CAN NEVER DO A PERFECT 50/50 WITH US!

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• Being perfectly "equal" comes from a mindset of "you move the left wheel, I move the right". It comes from the assumption that your are comrade in arms, you watch his back, he watches yours.
• That kind of dynamic make perfect sense in the world of men's brotherhood because they naturally see each other as perfect equals.
• That won't work when it comes to a relationship - especially a heterosexual one.
• Now here's the hard, bitter truth - Men will never see us as equal, no matter how much work we put in to change their mind, no matter how much we wish for it, no matter how hard we work to "prove" ourselves.
• They can play pretend for sure - but deep down inside, they can never see us as equal - it is in their wiring, it is not something they can change.

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WOMEN AREN'T MEANT TO BE "EQUAL" TO MEN - WE ARE MEANT TO BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THEM!

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• But here's another thing - after 20+ years of living as a Masculina I've realized that women are not meant to be men's equals in relationship - we are meant to be their complementary.
• The fight for "being equal" should be reserved to our human rights and education/career advances etc. in the society - that makes sense since we do the same work, so we should get paid the same.
• But we should always be complementary when it comes to dating and marriage. There is no sense in taking over the man's role - if we do that, why even date men?
• Femininity and Masculinity have very different roles to play - and we may never truly understand why - we just eventually realize that that is how it should be. It is something deeply subconscious, older and wiser than the years and knowledge of all humanity combined.
• We all are a product of evolution, and at some point we have to admit that we don't know a lot - even our "logical" argument is only as far as our knowledge goes. Our body, our subconscious, our instinct, our gut knows more than we consciously do.
• And I can admit now doing 50/50, pursuing the man, and worrying about "what do we bring to the table?" are wrong.
• If a scrote ask me to explain why it felt wrong - I honestly can't answer. I just know deep down inside that this role reversal, 50/50 culture is wrong and being take care of, provided and protected is right. That is what a relationship is.
• BUT I can stand up, open my eyes far and wide, and just take a look around - since this role-reversal 50/50 culture is already the norm in our modern society - and observe the reality.
• Pickmes and scrotes can spun the BS tale of how "good" their life is until the next decade and try gaslighting me to hell and back - but I simply can't unseen what I've seen - those marriages are hell.
• Women are being overworked to the point of near insanity. They are exhausted, bitter, angry, resentful, stressed, sick and sad. I literally got chills imagining if I ended up in such relationship.
• I don't understand why these otherwise amazing, capable, beautiful, efficient women are stuck with a parasitic manchild that they parade around, trying to convince people that he is "the man".
• Like sis, who are you trying to fool? You here talking till your face is blue about how "amazing" he is while keeping the leash on your three screaming children - while he is over there playing with his phone and leering at younger women.
• So instead on thinking that we should be "equal" to them - we have to start thinking about being complementary to a HVM.
• Stop thinking about how pay your "share" and start thinking about how to rest in your femininity, in your womanhood, what your role is and how to play it - so that the HVM can play his role and do his job as the man.
• Remember that healthy relationship is build on balance of the opposite sides - there's a yin to the yang, a night to the day, a light to the dark - a feminine to the masculine.
• This dynamic is deeper and complex that a mere you pay 50 he pays 50 - it is a dynamic that requires you to develop fully into your role, while he develops fully into his - and you both work as a harmony.
• No side is less than the other in complementariness, and you do NOT become co-dependent that you are completely helpless without him - BUT you need to reach that level of maturity and wholeness on your side - and he on his side so that you both create a healthy balanced bond.
• So adopting that mindset of how to be complementary to a high-value masculine man - here's some points for my sisters who can't yet see what her worth is as a woman, as the feminine side in the relationship.
• It is not comprehensive nor in depth, but it is a good starting point:

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Your ability to give him a family and turn a house into a home

• Let's start with the most obvious point - our ability to give birth, to continue their legacy, to give them a family of their own.
• Even for sisters who can't get pregnant or wants to be childfree - we have the inherent ability to turn their house into a home.
• Men are by design a pack animal - they thrive and find the meaning of life in having their own family. Men can't live alone for long - they tend to develop depression and psychological problems.
• There are a few rare men who can live a solitary life - but those are the exceptions, compared to women who have been documented for years living just fine in seclusion.
• Scrotes and society really like to peddle the "crazy cat lady" BS but if you watch enough documentaries about nursing homes, homeless people, or people dying alone found after weeks - the majority of cases are men.
• As a healthy-minded women, most of us desire to have our own family, but it won't severely impact our health if we don't.
• But for men, I believe having a family is a need - they seem to deteriorate if they don't have a family of their own, even if they are surrounded by wealth and friends.
• Going back home to an empty house hits different to them than to us - especially for provider men who spend most of their days working and making money - the solitude is their worst enemy.
• I know some men who can't even stand eating alone - which confuses me because I prefer eating alone if the company isn't good - but seems like it is a torture to them.
• No matter what kind of man - from HVM to LVM scrotes, they need a partner to fulfill their loneliness - they are afraid of being alone.
• That's why scrotes rather settle with a woman they hate than doing the logical move of waiting until they meet their dream woman, and HVM immediately go out to find the perfect partner after they are done building their finances.
• So in this case, what do we "bring to the table?" - ourselves, literally. Unless they want to turn gay and have a male partner - they literally need us to give them a family.
• They need us to bear them children, they need us to fill their home, they need us to be their family unit, they need us to avoid drowning in loneliness - they. need. us.
• Scrotes be yelling MGTOW!!! all the damn time - but why are they still here lurking in a WOMEN-ONLY space? Go MGTOW and shut up, ffs.
• It is not even our role, it is our existence - they need our existence to complete their half of the set. Scrotes like to pretend they don't, but catch them when they are desperate and see who needs who more.

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Your Respect

• Imagine this: You just came back from your second job to a messy house, your children running around still in their dirty diapers unbathed, dirty clothes piled up, dirty dishes in the sink and there's no food - while your "husband" is there on the couch, playing games while waiting for you to start on dinner ASAP.
• I DON'T CARE about the rare "house-husband" - I am talking about the MAJORITY of "50/50" relationship out there - this is their reality.
• Can you honestly, honestly say that you respect that kind of "husband"? Can you respect him as your life partner, the man of the house, the head of the family?
• Sure, he pays "half"(-ish) of the bills and groceries, but can you really, truly respect that man?
• Now imagine you wake up to see that the kids are ready, your husband came to the bedroom with a fresh cup of coffee made exactly to your liking, and the family is all waiting for you downstairs for breakfast?
• Now can you honestly say that you respect that man?
• If there's one thing men can't live without in their life - it is respect.
• And the number one thing men crave from us aside from our existence? It is our respect to them as a man.
• As I always said, part of men's design is their ego, especially over women. And the oxygen to that ego is respect.
• And here's the thing - respect can only be earned, not given.
• Unlike care, nurture and pity - you can't simply give, or pretend that you respect him.
• Respect is one of those core human things that can only be received after a person undergo trials and prove that he is worth the respect.
• And when it comes to relationship between a man and a woman - their role is to earn that respect, and our role is to respect them after they prove their worthiness.
• Women, by design don't need a man's respect - it is not something that will destroy us if we don't have it - so we don't need to "prove" our worth to a man.
• But it is crucial for a man to have our respect - they will be destroyed if they don't have it, it is in their wiring - so they need to prove their worth to us.
• So they have to undergo the trials of becoming a man of means, a protector and provider, a reliable and trustworthy future head of the family - and prove that they are fully capable of taking care of us - and hence we will naturally respect them.
• This natural progression simply can't happen in a role-reversal, 50/50, Masculina-Feminina relationship.
• Women simply can't respect a man that needs her to support half the finances, or let her be the breadwinner of the family.
• Yet even the most passive Feminina man is still a man - he still has that man's ego and need for respect deep in his wiring - so that's how a seemingly "progressive" 50/50 relationship turns into the husband resenting the accomplished breadwinner wife and cheats on her with the babysitter and the hooker.
• And for my sisters that think men feeling emasculated is "silly" and "a weak man's issue" - just remember that an emasculated man is a dangerous man - the kind that can murder and disremember his own wife.
• We all have to remember that we are not men - so we can never understand the full extent of how their brain operates.
• You can never really trust a man's words, only his actions because I read somewhere that men operates more on their subconscious mind than conscious - so he may think he is okay with a breadwinner wife, but deep down, over time, he actually is not okay at all.
• But we already know as a fact that men as a whole, high value or low value - do have ego over women - so they do need respect, and at risk of feeling emasculated if we compete or took over the leading role in the relationship.
• The difference is that HVM will respectfully end the relationship, while LVM/NVM Feminina will pretend or genuinely think they want a 50/50 breadwinner wife, but end up feeling emasculated and resenting the very hand that provides for them.
• So please be very careful with the man that say he "doesn't mind" you taking on the steering wheel.

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TLDR;

1. If any man ever ask you "what do you bring to the table" - RUN.
2. Men can never see us as perfect equals like how they view their fellow men - it is just how they are wired.
3. Women are not meant to be men's equals in relationship - we are meant to be their complementary.
4. Remember that healthy relationship is build on balance of the opposite sides - there's a yin to the yang, a night to the day, a light to the dark - a feminine to the masculine.
5. No matter what kind of man - from HVM to LVM scrotes, they need a partner to fulfill their loneliness - they are afraid of being alone.
6. Men need us to bear them children, they need us to fill their home, they need us to be their family unit, they need us to avoid drowning in loneliness - they. need. us.
7. They need our existence to complete their half of the set. Scrotes like to pretend they don't, but catch them when they are desperate and see who needs who more.
8. The number one thing men crave from us aside from our existence? It is our respect to them as a man.
9. And when it comes to relationship between a man and a woman - their role is to earn that respect, and our role is to respect them after they prove their worthiness.
10. So they have to undergo the trials of becoming a man of means, a protector and provider, a reliable and trustworthy future head of the family - and prove that they are fully capable of taking care of us - and hence we will naturally respect them.

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P/S: I will continue these points in Part 5 since this is getting way too long, so stay tuned!