Amy Schumer says 'toxic masculinity' led to Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at Oscars OP: Some people are really dumb: there is no such thing as toxic masculinity.

Puzzleheaded-Heat174 · 2022-04-05T02:01:12+00:00

Well Amy Schumer is an idiot .... and a rapist but nobody cares because she's a women female privilege much?

Arguesovereverythin · 2022-04-04T19:36:34+00:00

Didn't she rape a guy?

hehimCA · 2022-04-04T16:19:44+00:00

Amy Schumer is the living embodiment of toxicity.

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-04-05T00:23:16+00:00

'And it was just a f***ing bummer. All I can say is that it was really sad, and I think it says so much about race, about toxic masculinity. It's just everything.'

Ok Amy, what DOES it say "so much about race"?

maybe explain real quick what you mean by that? Tell us exadtly what your assumptions about race were that you think were confirmed here?

I think Amy fucked up and said the quiet part out loud here.

StingRayFins · 2022-04-05T01:49:22+00:00

And did she provide an explanation? Because if not she's just spouting bullshit toxic feminist idealogies.

What Will did is not "masculine" at all. Actually the opposite. It's weak and immature. If Will were truly "toxic masculinity" in feminist terms he'd be a real man in reality.

He would have been a stronger man, a more composed man, a more wise man. He wouldn't have let Jada completely destroy him and strip him of his pride and masculinity.

That is what led him to lash out and assault a comedian for doing his damn job. That was due to abuse and manipulation from a modern woman, Jada.

Amy has no idea wtf she's talking about. She is a lost and desperate girl and she's trying to mislead younger girls to fk up their lives just like she did.

Younger girls better be wise and careful what they listen to. A bunch of miserable women are trying to destroy them.

Tulcey-Lee · 2022-04-04T19:59:07+00:00

Oh god. I’m a woman and my best friend who is also a woman messaged me when this happened and said ‘how long until this blamed on toxic masculinity’

Also didn’t one of the female hosts call men up on stage and sent them backstage and made a comment about taking their clothes off? I don’t know the context behind it but I do remember thinking of it had been a man saying it about women, people would be up in arms.

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-04-04T22:21:12+00:00

Regina Hall made a joke directly to Will Smiths face about his wife's infidelity while she was groping unconsenting men on stage, the same wife who gave him the "you're in trouble" look when Will laughed at the GI Jada joke, and then only laughed herself when Will assaulted Chris. It's funny watching your husband trash his career.

but yeah, let's talk about toxic masculinity while the twitter scape is full of women saying how much their panties moistened at a man defending his woman's honor.

Maybe Amy would like to regale us with her TWO stories about raping unwilling men that she thinks is really funny.

'And it was just a f***ing bummer. All I can say is that it was really sad, and I think it says so much about race, about toxic masculinity. It's just everything.'

Let's not just let this racist comment slide either.

psuedoscientist500 · 2022-04-04T17:16:36+00:00

Yes because Jada had nothing to do with the incident. The day feminism admits to their share of the problems, admits to female entitlement, and admits to toxic female behavior is the day I'll become a feminist.

RoryTate · 2022-04-05T01:13:16+00:00

Yes, it was an unacceptable act of violence, but after thinking on it a bit, I really worry that Will Smith is in danger of taking his own life at some point in the future, and that this initial expression of anger is just his first breaking point from the weight of all the abuse in his horrible marriage. I'm not surprised that someone as ignorant as Amy Schumer is misinterpreting what is likely pain and suffering in this manner, but what bothers me is that very few people are able or willing to see male expressions of anger – even anger that is justifiable, or at least comprehensible – as a normal reaction to distress and pain. Especially mental anguish like a loveless marriage.

HeForeverBleeds · 2022-04-04T18:29:13+00:00

"Toxic masculinity" from a woman who admitted to and joked about taking advantage of a drunk man. She's one of the last people who should be judging others as toxic

Will Smith was in the wrong for hitting Chris Rock. But it's not about toxic masculinity and more about him wanting to regain favor with his wife who publicly shamed him as not being enough to make her happy, so she claims she had to go to her son's friend

Or if this was "toxic masculinity," it's an example of how women can perpetuate it too by shaming men who they don't deem as "man enough"

the-first12 · 2022-04-05T02:21:53+00:00

It’s as much about toxic masculinity as it is black on black crime.

The fact is that he unsuspecting Mr. Rock was an easy target for the cucked, embarrassed and ashamed Mr. Smith. It’s a shame he can’t get his own house in order, let alone exhibit some self control. He emotionally is a two year old.

wumbo-inator · 2022-04-04T19:41:18+00:00

I’m really glad this woman, who raped a guy, is telling us what she thinks about how men are seen.

GivePuppiesBazookas · 2022-04-04T16:39:09+00:00

The person whose entire career is vagina jokes is blaming men... more at 11

ManofGod1000 · 2022-04-04T16:22:24+00:00

I think gravity is winning in her case......

Holy_Salsa · 2022-04-05T01:40:06+00:00

Toxic cuntilarity is more like it

TextDependent6779 · 2022-04-05T02:30:29+00:00

The best is how she denies being a joke thief.

Meanwhile, she bragged about how much she used to shoplift in Rolling Stone about 7 years ago.

RS: Well, doing some shoplifting may be typical. But it sounds like you did a bit more than that.

AS: Yes. I started just with my girlfriends—we would steal a bathing suit or some makeup or I don't know—and then I just got more serious about it. It became grand larceny when I was in college. I just discovered this department store where you could just take whatever and then return it for cash—no tags, no receipt, nothing. You know, thousands of dollars. It was exciting. It was the adrenaline—the actual act of getting away with it. It wasn't about the money, even though the money was nice. And I didn't feel bad about it—it was this huge corporation. You know, I never stole from people. I never stole from a little store.

RS: You've said you might have stolen about $100,000 worth of stuff overall.

AS: Sure. Yeah.

RS: That's…

AS: It's a lot. Yeah. I was stealing, like, age 14 to 21? I think I was arrested when I was 21. I got arrested stealing from Bloomingdale's with my sister—which I'd never stolen from before but Kim was like, "It's really easy," and then we found out it's the hardest place to shoplift from—and they kind of got it down to disturbing the peace, but if anybody dug into my record they would see that it was grand larceny.

RS: What was the punishment?

AS: Shit, what was it? Community service? A fine? I don't remember. But I just remember I was, "I don't want to go to jail." It felt really bad, being arrested. You have no say. And it was embarrassing. I was relieved because I got caught doing this other thing—had they caught me for the thing I'd been doing for years and years, I would probably have had to do time. So, relieved actually. But it sucked.

In my experience, a thief is someone who will steal - no matter what. It’s not like someone will only steal $100,000 worth of clothes… but would never ever dare to steal a joke.

2022-04-05T02:22:09+00:00

Amy Schumer is a fat unfunny hog who likes to trash men because she doesn’t want anyone calling her on 10 years worth of cheap race jokes.

She also benefits from female privilege. She stole almost 40 minutes of jokes from other comics and tv shows - and she still works.

Dane Cook, meanwhile, swiped 3 jokes from Louis and it ended his entire career.

If she was a man, she’d have been kicked out of comedy a long time ago..

She doesn’t belong on TV. She belongs on a silver platter with an apple in her mouth.

Seawolf40 · 2022-04-05T01:15:29+00:00

She spelled "toxic feminism" wrong.

Mythandros · 2022-04-04T22:10:16+00:00

Who cares what some ugly, unfunny, dumb feminist has to say?

Her words mean less than nothing.

SnooMarzipans5669 · 2022-04-05T02:21:30+00:00

Toxic Judaism ruins normal, healthy penises.

I just said penis.

needalife94 · 2022-04-05T06:17:50+00:00

This type of shit is that confuses the fuck out of me. You got some women saying what he did was right because he was sticking up for his wife. Then other women saying it's because of toxic masculinity. Like which one is it ladies ? Do you want your man to be violent for you or just ignore it ? Imagine if the roles were reserved. Feminist would be like "Sis , he isn't were being violent for."

DreamTheaterGuy · 2022-04-05T03:11:15+00:00

Take every chance you get to remind people that Amy is a rapist.

TitanicPat · 2022-04-05T08:51:21+00:00

He slapped Chris Rock because JPS put him up to it with a look.

A manipulative woman was the cause of the slap.

Darkwolf90 · 2022-04-05T02:20:30+00:00

There is? It's just far more complicated than what's being discussed which leads to your own absurd claim. Masculinity being the traits related to the average traits of a male, so its defined by average male traits but not exclusive to males, there is good and bad there. There's also the complication that more is not always better and in some context its good to be aggressive or protective but if your directing these behaviors according to your fondness of cookies, then we've got a problem.

ih-shah-may-ehl · 2022-04-05T06:12:16+00:00

Some people are really dumb: there is no such thing as toxic masculinity.

Sure there is. Whenever men insist 'I do X just because I am the man' that's toxic masculinity. Any idea how many times people have mocked / pitied me because my wife drives the car when we go someplace?

Apparently, the fact that she gets car sick easily unless she is the one driving and the fact that I love reading in the car while being driven somewhere is not good enough reason for many people and because I am the man, I should be the one driving the car.

If you start the argument with such nonsense as 'toxic masculinity does not exist' then you devalue the actual argument there is to be had here.

TheOnlyDijaini · 2022-04-05T01:58:31+00:00

I disagree. Toxic masculinity does exist and causes MR movements harm on a continuous basis. BUT, Will Smith is a victim of his wife's toxic feminism. When he saw his wife's face, he wet himself and turned on Chris Rock to save face. Til then, he was smiling as much as anyone else in the room. Jada Pinkett is a faithless nutjob who justifies her actions with feminism and degrading men. Will is the simp who empowers her at his own expense.

CaptBerlin · 2022-04-05T03:34:37+00:00

What can you expect from a failed female comedian

Jerezmo · 2022-04-04T17:50:23+00:00

Toxic masculinity absolutely exists and probably played a role in why he resorted to violence when upset.

I’m more angry that people are defending him, because “men have to protect women”, by sacrificing our reputations and potentially putting ourselves in real danger?

ImpeccableArchitect · 2022-04-05T05:30:03+00:00

I dont mind talking about toxic male behavior as long as we are also talking about toxic female behavior. Im starting to feel bad for will smith; hes potentially ruined his career to please a self righteous feminist cunt who emasculated and humiliated him publicly.

AntimatterLife · 2022-04-04T19:26:40+00:00

I agree that yes, saying that what he did was due to toxic masculinity is an incredibly stupid reading of it, and what toxic masculinity is, but not that toxic masculinity isn’t real. Everyone on this sub says that it’s a made up concept putting the blame on men and then make comments about unfair double standards or stereotypes. While yes, toxic masculinity saying men’s actions are innately harmful is complete bs, it is a fairly real concept in my eyes that most people here seem to grasp the core idea of: society’s standards and stereotypes of men can be harmful to men. It’s shown in how people agree here that we’re expected to be stoic and strong while people complain about men not being vulnerable. This is not exclusively the fault of men but often played off in that way to give the idea of toxic masculinity that I see here all the time. Toxic masculinity is just an idea of masculinity that can be harmful to men when forced upon them and set as standards to be a ‘real man’. The problem is when these ideas of masculinity are seen to be bad outright when people set these for themselves instead of forcing these expectations on others.

TAPriceCTR · 2022-04-04T21:05:56+00:00

She's not wrong... but she failed to mention that Will's toxic masculinity was borne of Jada's toxic femininity.

SoulKeen · 2022-04-05T04:20:40+00:00

What type of man slaps???.

NarutoBoy87 · 2022-04-05T05:24:02+00:00

Shits that happening in murica right now.. Can't help but feel sorry for youngsters starting to date.. Tough time to find a sane partner...

Mike_Hunt_is_itchy · 2022-04-05T05:38:20+00:00

she is also needing a break due to the trauma it has caused her.

ChaosOpen · 2022-04-05T05:59:44+00:00

I'd say it was toxic femininity. Honestly, I pity Will Smith, have you seen the shit his wife did to him? Constantly emasculating him and comparing him to Tupac? I saw one example where she had their daughter pen a letter saying in no uncertain terms that she wished Tupac was her father instead.

ithinkoutloudtoo · 2022-04-05T07:27:46+00:00

No such thing as toxic masculinity. But I think that there is a thing called toxic femininity.

pappo4ever · 2022-04-05T08:54:40+00:00

Amy Schumer thinks that this all shenanigans should be about her instead.

Fean2616 · 2022-04-05T08:56:53+00:00

A woman got upset and had him do it, so Jada has toxic masculinity? Oh wait it's Amy irrelevant Schumer who no one gives a damn about because she's not funny and she's saying stupid shit to try and get some attention.

merrifam · 2022-04-05T08:58:20+00:00

She's just trying to stay relevant by jumping on that band wagon first. This is the only way she gets any air time because she's not funny.

hydromarine · 2022-04-05T09:48:15+00:00

Lack of real masculinity did that

veedub447 · 2022-04-05T10:33:56+00:00

Toxic femininity made her wear that stupid dress that pressed her fat boobs together.

Atheisthater42069 · 2022-04-05T12:34:43+00:00

Amy Schumer is just some irrelevant unfunny comedian

R41N0 · 2022-04-05T12:39:48+00:00

there is no such thing as toxic masculinity

Sure there is just look at Amy that dudes the most toxic & masculine mf I've ever seen

mattgk39 · 2022-04-05T13:11:57+00:00

There is such a thing as toxic masculinity. Just like there’s toxic femininity. And their harmful worldviews actually overlap in some ways. And Will Smith’s actions are actually a perfect example of both. Advocating for men’s rights and issues does not mean we have to pretend like men do no wrong or turn a blind eye to men acting violently or wrongly because of their idea of what it means to “be a man”. It’s really a shame when I see shit like “there’s no such thing as toxic masculinity” on this sub.

ajomojo · 2022-04-05T13:14:00+00:00

I disagree Girls Hood Fighting

TheGayestRetard69 · 2022-04-05T13:33:42+00:00

Ya well being a toxic pig woman doesn't help either

Strange-Effort8841 · 2022-04-05T13:40:21+00:00

Toxic masculinity is definitely a thing but that’s not what led Will to slap Chris … he was defending his wife.

Wilddog73 · 2022-04-05T13:50:50+00:00

I actually don't understand this one. Toxic masculinity is a term often used to point at men who fight to settle their differences.

Can someone deconstruct it for me?

bionicmook · 2022-04-05T14:02:31+00:00

Asking this in all seriousness… is the expectation of all men to be hyper masculine at all times a good thing or bad thing?

Terrenord404 · 2022-04-05T14:04:13+00:00

If there was an example of toxic masculinity, then Will Smith’s slap would be it, but this actually disproves the existence of toxic masculinity because I’ve never actually seen a guy assault another guy like that in my life. When these things happen they must be incredibly rare, suggesting that men are, for the most part, pretty well behaved.

Plenty-Green186 · 2022-04-05T16:25:40+00:00

Does toxic femininity exist?

forty83 · 2022-04-05T17:54:23+00:00

Ask Jada if she thinks it's toxic

ResentfulFrown · 2022-04-05T19:31:47+00:00

TOXIC MASCULINITY? What?! It's literally the fault of a WOMAN (Will's wife). Will Smith was actually laughing at the joke until he noticed Jada was unamused. She probably abuses him at home... Will Smith only slapped him in order to get brownie points from his wife.

Mephisto_Marquis · 2022-04-05T22:43:21+00:00

K that's nonsense. Yes there is such a thing as toxic masculinity. Like the urge to attack someone for words against their spouse. Most cases called toxic masculinity are utter BS but it does happen where someone acts toxic due to their perception of masculinity.

Ireallyadoremyhorror · 2022-04-07T19:56:05+00:00

This is not toxic masculinity. Will Smith needs to get anger management therapy.

Serpentlord42 · 2022-04-08T14:09:23+00:00

Toxic masculinity lmao. Will Smith is a completely torn down emasculated cuck who has little to zero masculinity. This was a terribly misguided attempt to show his wife he would defend her after she has got her claws in him and has beaten how inadequate he is into him for years.

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