Are you concerned about the frequency with which people use "bitch" and "cunt" in this reddit? Use these search terms and actually see how common they are

MF-Brofist · 2011-06-08T16:52:21+00:00

Every subreddit has their assholes who take their positions to the extreme. I navigate /r/mensrights with some acknowledgement that there's a bias towards men (and against women) here. It's true of every subreddit dedicated to a specific topic. /r/apple is, generally, biased towards apple products, /r/android is biased toward android stuff, /r/linux is fucking adamant about telling you how shitty anything non-linux is, and /r/womensrights (or whatever it's called) is, I'm sure, biased towards women.

All I do is see the extremist that clearly don't care about any other opinion that doesn't align with their own and ignore/downvote them. That includes people in this subreddit who are far too chauvinistic for their own good as well as /r/apple, /r/android, /r/linux fanboys, just to name a few.

zihuatanejo · 2011-06-08T15:33:22+00:00

These words (or any vulgarities) really undermine the strength of any logical argument or rational point to an impartial observer. For example, which point is objectively more convincing?:

A. "We can't let these feminist cunts get away with redefining rape while simultaneously retaining the old stigmas associated with its older meaning."

or

B. "It is important to combat the disturbing trend in feminism in which they attempt to redefine rape while simultaneously retaining old stigmas associated with its older meaning."

It's much easier to ignore A's argument and call him a misogynist just because of his use of "cunt."

weclock · 2011-06-08T14:55:23+00:00

Free speech is free speech. However, I think using these words that are especially offensive to women can hurt our causes.

Spyder001 · 2011-06-08T15:38:10+00:00

I'm tired of Concern Trolling by people who want to exert their belief system on others by pretending to be a victims, misrepresentations of fact, and shaming tactics like this being used to fit constructive arguments in to some sort of pre-meditated structure that makes Feminists feel good.

Here in America discourse no matter how "rude" it got was always encouraged. Our forefathers made sure of that.

By telling people that there are "taboo" words, you only serve to prove your desire to control the thoughts of others.

Ragnrok · 2011-06-08T16:45:19+00:00

In all honesty it doesn't bother me because the vast majority of the time I see it used it's perfectly justified within the context of what the person is saying. I don't see many "all women are cunts" or "that stupid bitch didn't want to swallow", I mostly see "That woman won't let the father see his children? What a fucking cunt!", and statements of that ilk. I'm not saying this subreddit is free of unwarranted sexist statements, but I would call them the exception rather than the rule.

2011-06-08T17:19:16+00:00

No, I am not concerned about people using words. A word is only as offensive as you allow it to be. If you don't like being offended by a word, stop being offended by it. You have to consciously choose to be offended by something like this.

kragshot · 2011-06-09T02:27:47+00:00

While I don't condone the use of derogatory language, I have to bring up the point again that in many feminist spaces, they are encouraged to use derogatory language in reference to men and their "anger" and "wrath" is allowed as they have the right to express their feelings. In addition, men who enter these spaces are told that they have to accept being the subject of that anger and they should just take it as the "price" for being a man.

Men come here to vent and express their anger, but you see so many feminist supporters who want to curtail those feelings. Why can't feminists acknowledge that there are many issues that men are angry about and deserve a place to vent.

There are so many discussions that want to brand male feelings and ideals as toxic. Furthermore, more feminists are trying to co-opt our concerns and derail them to cater to feminist concerns (i.e. feminism is the answer to men's problems).

ManThoughts · 2011-06-08T16:13:40+00:00

They can't argue with us using facts, reason, or logic. So instead, they shame us as misogynists and freak out about the "hurtful words" we use. They don't want to consider our substantive points, and they don't want the world at large to consider our substantive points. So they turn on the emotional waterworks. While managing to ignore all the hostile and crude language Feminists use against men and MRA's.

It is a typical and expected tactic of tyrants.

AnnArchist · 2011-06-08T15:02:41+00:00

generally when they aer used. . . they are warranted.

I knew my name would pop up on some of those submissions. I stand by those submission titles.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dlljs/remember_that_bitch_who_stole_1_million_from_a/

Lachlan91 · 2011-06-08T15:59:18+00:00

Bitch cunt.

Yes, they are gendered words, and applied to women. But anyone who thinks that implies sexism or misogyny is a fucking idiot. If I call a guy a dick or an asshole, does that make me sexist or misandrist? Because those are gender specific insults too.

kanuk876 · 2011-06-08T15:13:59+00:00

http://www.reddit.com/r/twoXchromosomes/search?q=cunt&&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

http://www.reddit.com/r/twoXchromosomes/search?q=bitch&restrict_sr=on&sort=new

And the male-version of 'slut':

http://www.reddit.com/r/twoXchromosomes/search?q=creepy&&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

Just say'n

skooma714 · 2011-06-08T20:02:26+00:00

Bitch can be used as a gender-neutral verb. People in the UK and Australia are fond of the word cunt and use it to describe men far more often than women.

CanadianTomFoolery · 2011-06-08T23:26:46+00:00

I'm not concerned with it at all.If someone chooses to take a remark personally and out of context It's not particularly my fault is it?.People are over sensitive, particularly women because their emotions guide and dictate their behaviour, so while sure a woman might take a broad remark personally, no I'm not overly concerned nor in the slightest bit worried about it.

weclock · 2011-06-08T16:08:29+00:00

I love a tasty cunt.

FearlessBuffalo · 2011-06-08T17:07:12+00:00

These are just words. Only a fool would focus on such a stupid detail. Look at what he's actually saying, not what surrounds it.

TBcasualty · 2011-06-08T17:37:33+00:00

It's nice to vent sometimes. If we can't do it here, we can't do it anywhere.

2011-06-08T16:24:08+00:00

I think it is used a bit too much, but I don't think it is so frequently misused to be considered a serious problem (yet)

koonat · 2011-06-08T18:25:04+00:00

I'm no more concerned about it than I am every use of the words faggot or nigger.

It's fucking words, yo.

2011-06-09T05:13:42+00:00

Judging from the downvotes it seems that everyone in this thread thinks we should stop using these words. I propose three possible explanations:

a) This is a disproportionate sample of the larger r/MensRights community,

b) r/MensRights doesn't like these words and therefore this can't be that big of a problem anyways, or;

c) You're a bunch of fucking hypocrites. And cunts. Hypocrites and cunts.

NiceIce · 2011-06-08T18:49:38+00:00

I am not about to start censoring myself to please feminists.

windynights · 2011-06-08T16:09:23+00:00

A lot of women are bitches but fewer are cunts. But both terms have successfully entered the lexicon. Employ them as you please.

KronktheKronk · 2011-06-08T15:56:59+00:00

Oh stop being such a prudish bitch

2011-06-08T16:57:46+00:00

Men are held to an impossible standard. Stand up for ourself and we're oppressive.

disposable_human · 2011-06-08T21:14:47+00:00

Some bitch got a hair across her cunt. It's no reason to start treating adults like tit sucking children. Where's your reverence for the English fucking language? It's so cunt-swellingly diverse and filled with words, for every feeling and subtle meaning you can find a word to suit you. Like a fucking painter's palette. Language doesn't have to defend itself from you, bitch. There's a place for 'bitch' and 'cunt' as long as there are thoughts and feelings that correspond to them.

TicTokCroc · 2011-06-09T04:26:43+00:00

It doesn't help that the MR mods shadow-ban comments that don't fall in line with their propaganda: Proof

disposable_human · 2011-06-08T16:34:31+00:00

The idea that using offensive words can hurt our cause is entirely misleading. The case is actually the opposite. We gather here to oppose all the tactics used to impose a misandrist agenda. We cannot do that if we ignore political correctness. I assert that we should use words like cunt and bitch, and we should defend the idea that those words are correct in those contexts.

The idea that we should not use these words because they are 'offensive' is just another part of feminist/white knight culture. I oppose that culture, and I oppose their suggestion that I shouldn't use perfectly good words because they might be 'offensive'.

tl;dr: Cunt Bitch Slut Whore

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