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“most men are lazy, selfish, thoughtless, lying…”: Blatant man-hating post on feminist subreddit highly-upvoted. Conveniently ignored by subs that monitor hate subreddits because hatred of men is culturally celebrated

BlindMaestro

June 16, 2022
370 upvotes
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Title “most men are lazy, selfish, thoughtless, lying…”: Blatant man-hating post on feminist subreddit highly-upvoted. Conveniently ignored by subs that monitor hate subreddits because hatred of men is culturally celebrated
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BlindMaestro

Upvotes 370
Comments 65
Date June 16, 2022 4:25 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vdpupg/most_men_are_lazy_selfish_thoughtless_lying/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/most-men-are-lazy-selfish-thoughtless-lying.1119760
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Comments

[–]Viesegel 137 points138 points139 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Sadly having children is still a dent in a woman’s career.

The solution is simple. Find an unemployed man who will stay with the children while you pursue your career.

Oh? You don't want that...

[–]Soft_Leather_Couch 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, and if at any point in time for any reason if he decides that he deserves better, you have to give him all of your belongings and half your income for life. They committed infidelity? That doesn’t matter. Oh, you have a child? Well now he receives 80% of your income.

Yas Kang slay

[–]Jukingku22 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]Huffers1010 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're both self-employed, but I work from home, so I'd inevitably end up doing the childcare.

I'm very pleased that one of the things we agree on is that kids don't look like a fun time.

[–]neolib-cowboy 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why is a career more important than having kids? Never understood this.

[–]Viesegel 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Also, even if you consider a career more important, nobody forces you to have kids. When you do decide to have kids, and you still want to keep your career, you can make any kind of arrangement that you want to make that work. There's no law that forbids people from going against any kind of gender norm they don't like.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's usually the husband that loses when the wife tries to squeeze in both a family and a career. He tends to become her lowest priority from what I've seen/heard.

[–]Empress_Clementine 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because women have been buying the lie that they can “have it all” since the 70s.

[–]rosewiththornzzz 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I don’t understand what the problem is with this at all. I want to work and my fiancé wants to be a stay at home dad and we’re on the same page that that’s what we want. I don’t see him as less of a man for wanting to stay at home dad and he doesn’t see me as being less of a good future mother for not wanting to stay home. I just don’t get it

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm sincerely glad you have something going that works for you.

I've wondered why divorce rates are higher and martial satisfaction is lower for couples where the guy is a stay-at-home dad. Lots of theories, but not a lot of research into why yet.

My sister had an arrangement like that with the guy she married but it's falling apart on her now after 10 years. I talked to her a bunch trying to understand why and still don't have a good grasp on it unfortunately. Seems like she just got frustrated with the responsibility of being the breadwinner and when he spent any money frivolously, got a bit jealous of the extra time he got to spend with the kids. Definitely lost all respect for him.

[–]rosewiththornzzz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well and like something my fiancé plan is we might be coming into some money here before long so we would like to start our own business. I always wanted to open a bakery and he had had some interest in doing so as well. So if we can I would like for us to just have our business and both be able to work and get equal amounts of time with our kids and even get them involved with the business when they’re older

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds awesome; I wish you the best! :)

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

because hatred of men is culturally celebrated

Also because expressing hatred of men is specifically allowed by Reddit’s rules.

[–]yazzukimo 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Really ?

[–]Maxwell1138 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Official Reddit moderators have stated publicly that hate speech rules are only for marginalized groups and that men do not qualify in their judgement as a marginalized group so no hate speech against men will be found to be breaking Reddit policies. Officially.

[–]yazzukimo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wow ...

[–]Maxwell1138 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Should be noted that according to their policies every other demographic in the world except white males are marginalized groups. So hate speech will be censored by Reddit in all occurances except relating to white males specifically. Because everyone else is marginalized, according to Reddit staff.

[–]keepmovingon692 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What an absolute fucking joke

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]josh9x 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Sexism is bad!"

"No! Not against men!!"

[–]Fearless-File-3625 71 points72 points73 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Tell me again why feminists hate MGTOW? they were literally writing the same shit, 100 years ago.

[–]Logical-Tension 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In psychology it is called a projection. The act of taking something you don’t like about yourself and then project it onto the other person/group/movement etc. as a way to avoid taking responsibility for your shadow side of our psych.

[–]SampleHistorical9352 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They need someone to blame

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's like a religion honestly. They MUST be going up against some evil force. When religious nuts blame everything on the Devil (Think Waterboy's mom) it's nuts.. when feminists blame everything on men.. it's equally as nuts.

[–]copeharderhun 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like when atheists blame everything on religion too

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Should find more of this material and start a sub just with an understanding that the genders should be read reversed kind of like how FDSpro was a parody of FDS where new people aren’t quite sure if it’s satire or not and often end up asking. Edit: i can’t find FDSpro anymore so I assume it must have been banned.

[–]Spurnout 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

how about /r/womenwhohatemen

[–]TheSnesLord 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why feminists hate MGTOW

Because MGTOW guys are aware of the misandry peddled by feminists; and they also don't give their resources to women.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only men have legitimate reasons not to get married.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Women work off feelings more than logic. So although your statement is perfectly logical, it doesn't make any sense to women. I'll try to take a stab at how MGTOW makes them feel.

For as much as feminists express hatred of men, most are still heterosexual and attracted to men who don't put up with their crap. They don't respect men who actually do what they say they want men to do (be effeminate, emasculated, etc.). MGTOW men hit both categories, but they've made themselves unavailable for women to be in a relationship with, so it frustrates them like crazy. Those feelings of frustration get channeled into hate and hating the MGTOW movement.

That's my theory at least. Who knows though.

[+]Soggy_Nose_71731 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

One of the comments: "Based, marriages will never ever benefit women."

Until you look at the divorce statistics. Men are the ones paying 95% of all alimony.

The opposite is the truth. Marriage benefits women at the expense of men. The irony of comments like this are that men actually benefit more by staying single. If they want female companionship, simply get into a long-term relationship. If it doesn't work out after a couple years, no problem, you simply go your separate ways and that's the end of it. No alimony and everything you earned is yours to keep forever. When a man gets married, all he is doing is adding asset splitting and alimony to any relationship that dissolves.

[–]upsidedownbackwards 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I have to cook, clean, and do things that benefits a man. All while he can spend most of his day at work or screwing around on his computer playing games.

I'm that man. And I'm able to take care of general life chores in an hour or two a day between work and fucking around. They make it sound so hard/degrading/whatever but it's what single people do for themselves every day. It really ain't as time consuming or difficult as they pretend it is.

[–]Soft_Leather_Couch 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

But obviously they need 5 full days to clean the house to a below average standard, to not do any of the outside work or repairs(that’s hubby’s job), to do two loads of washing, to do one grocery shop where she never asks if you want anything different or new while spending $200 a week just on hair products and asking why we can’t afford things and to finally cook you steak and two veg meals for 5 out of 7 days a week(you cook on the other two).

[–]whtsnk 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It really ain't as time consuming or difficult as they pretend it is.

It becomes both difficult and time-consuming when you add children to the equation.

[–]Viesegel 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are various ways to deal with children, and if none of these work, then you have the option of not having children.

Feminists like to pretend that women don't have agency, and that life is something that happens to them.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's why marriage is referred to as being bound in matrimony.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the comments: "Based, marriages will never ever benefit women."

Just imagine how thick the bubble someone has to be in or how out of touch with reality they have to be to say something like this.

[–]rabel111 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists being sexist pigs

[–]JakesNewThrowAway96 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

most men are lazy, selfish, thoughtless, lying…

True, and so are women. Literally just human beings

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Based, marriages will never ever benefit women.

Lol.

[–]copeharderhun 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing isn't it. How detached from reality do you have to be to believe this is true. Women in marriages literally owe men nothing - they literally don't even have to give their partner anything. Men are legally forced to provide for women, with it being "financial abuse" if they don't. Men are basically forced to keep the woman happy as divorce almost always benefits the woman and fucks over the man, women have no such incentive.

Saying marriage doesn't benefit women is like saying slavery in the US benefited blacks. It's just so completely wrong it boggles the mind ahaha. There's a reason that women are the gender that demands marriage and men are the ones concerned about it. There's a reason that divorced men have a 4x higher suicide rate than normal men, while divorced women are much better off than normal women. There's a reason the trope is "happy wife happy life", while a woman is basically encouraged to fuck off from a marriage the second she has to do any level of self sacrifice.

[–]Firm-Organization-34 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is why we have to get behind the trans women. They are former men fighting feminists using female triple standards.

[–]whtsnk -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A significant faction of this subreddit is unwilling to stand in support of transgender people. As you said, they bear the brunt of feminism in ways that are under-discussed in men’s rights circles.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How so? The comments I've seen on this sub from straight men who tried to support and be involved with LGBT+ groups said they were ostracized.

For example, one guy who tried to be involved and support them said "butch" or "fem" lesbians were celebrated, but acting the same as a "butch" lesbian but being a man or acting the same as a "fem" lesbian but being a straight woman were both denigrated just like feminists do. You had to have some "quirk" to be accepted.

[–]whtsnk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn’t say anything about being involved in LGBT+ groups. I’m talking about including people from those groups in campaigns against feminism.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't seem interested in associating with us is what I'm trying to say.

[–]krynnotaur 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female genital mutilation is universally criminal all over the world. Male genital mutilation is celebrated all over the world.

Remember this when double standards come up.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how old the women are who are commenting there about never getting married. It seems like many women feel a bit pressured when their friends are all getting married and starting families.

[–]rosewiththornzzz 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay the football enthusiast is the only thing I agree with on this. Maybe it’s just cause I’ve had bad experiences with football players/enthusiasts. So idk. But all the rest? My fiancé is NOT a drunkard, he hardly even drinks at all and has NEVER in 23 years been drunk. He’s not a liar, thoughtless, selfish, clumsy and definitely not unmanly. He is heavy- footed but can’t help that. And the only thing about him that needs taming is his hair cause he got some curly ass hair lmfao.

The thing I’ve learned he needs to be happy? Affection. He loves physical touch. He loves hearing how much I love him, but I think feeling in my embrace let’s him know even more how much I love him.

I really hate that this suffragette compared men to dogs. The only time my fiancé is an animal is in bed. Sorry, not the appropriate time or place just trying to make a slight joke.

And just saying as I’ve been raised on the oil field, some of the most rude men are actually the fire fighters, coal miners and those who do blue collar jobs. Not all of course, because I know plenty of blue collar working men who are gentlemen, but they tend to be loose cannons more than those who work white collar jobs. This lady don’t make sense with her logic.

Men are definitely not like this. My fiancé is a romantic through and through. Brings me flowers, takes me out to dinner, insists on being the one to walk next to the street when we’re on the sidewalk no matter how much I protest, and he knows how much I love Dutch chocolate milk. He’s a gentleman. And I can only hope that I do as much in his eyes as he does in mine. I only wish that more women could look and see that men are more sensitive than they believe. And perhaps sensitive isn’t the right word, maybe someone could help me find a better one?

I have a loving fiancé. A man that while we may be starting out our life together in a humble way, I hope to learn and grow with. I have a wonderful father. Yes it took him a while to get there, but my dad taught me not to let society get me down, and that I can be as tough as any man. But he also taught me compassion. I have two brothers. Most days I want to bang their heads together or box their ears, but they are amazing boys and at the end of the day we all love each other. I have a grandpa. He taught me that even if you come from humble beginnings, or an abusive past, you can rise above it and become a better person. And his example taught me what I should look for in how I want to be treated by my future spouse, cause I never saw anyone love their spouse more than my papa loves his wife.

Men are not horrible. And women who say that men are horrible probably have male relatives themselves. That they can say these horrible things if they do have male relatives they love and admire, it’s deplorable and disgusting.

[–]WeEatBabies 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love these, I collect them, keep'em coming!

[–]Ukman_44 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Blatant man-hating post on feminist subreddit highly-upvoted"

Well, duh

[–]Aimless-Nomad 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit admins are fine with hate against men. Didn't you know?

[–]TorchwoodCaptainJack 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes im lazy thats why I haven’t taken a sick day in over 2 years….

[–]eyesayhello 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad she didn't at least get an education in lieu of a man.

[–]Hound_of_Hell 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Dont except too much”… shouldn’t it say “expect”?

[–]NoFuryLikeKristine 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That subreddit is confusing to me. It says that 3rd wave feminism didn't work so we need 4th wave, yet there's not really any difference? It just seems like more extremist where there are feminists policing main stream kind of feminism? It's kind of amusing how they're arguing with each other, but it's insane how hellbent they are to be extremely negative, hateful people for "women's rights", even though they would love to take away my freedom of speech

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This subreddit is pure cancer.

[–]NoFuryLikeKristine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought you were talking about the linked subreddit and was about to agree with you

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes i AM talking about the linked subreddit, how is that not clear. r/fourthwavewomen is cancer not this subreddit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes i AM talking about the linked subreddit, how is that not clear.

This vs. That

[–]B1G_Fan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If men are being “lazy, selfish, thoughtless” and “lying”, then maybe we should for whether women prefer such dudes as sex partners instead of nicer dudes…

Incentives matter

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people are expedient and self centered.

[–]Rol9x 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if it's the same for those who identify as men. Or for men who identify as genderfluid. Or any other non-conforming gender.

[–]vocabb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Any group of people that go out to malisciouly degrade other groups or make them selves feel empowered by claiming the other side are oppressors is toxic to the social environment that both groups and more operate and live in.

This isn’t men vs woman, it is a arbitrary justification to be arseholes to another group of people.

[–]macrotransactions 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lying and thoughtless are blatant hate on men. Lazy and selfish - that's what feminist society deserves.

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