No, I will NOT be a Manly Man

Alarming_Draw · 2022-04-25T19:49:57+00:00

If you want to "let men be men" as you say, you also have to let men be imperfect, let them be angry, let them lose their cool-I say this because a lot of fake accounts from femlurkers have appeared on Mens Rights lately telling us men to never use the tactics feminists have successfully used to get the success they have, telling us "we should always behave better on these forums".

I call bullshit. Men are in cages. We do NOT have to behave any way we dont want to, should not be held to ANY higher standards than women, should be free to be however we want-and since we have been treated like dirt by feminists, we should be free to do whatever is needed to win back our rights

needs_grammarly · 2022-04-25T20:37:39+00:00

i have friends who won't go out in public drinking a starbucks fruit drink because they got bullied for being girly

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-04-25T17:57:19+00:00

Be the man you want to be :)

elebrin · 2022-04-25T18:10:15+00:00

I played bass professionally for a few years and always used (clear) nail polish to strengthen and protect my nails a little.

Do what you want.

Please, though, don't pretend that manhood has no unique answers to dealing with our own emotional lives. I've never been one for crying. I've never been particularly quick to anger either. A lot of people say I am cut off emotionally. I'm not, I express how I feel in different ways. People don't get it. When I get frustrated or angry or sad, I get to work and make things.

NoCSForYou · 2022-04-25T19:15:30+00:00

I tried nail polish for a few days.

My hands looked like the hands of my exes. I didnt like that.

Other than lipstick for better lips I dont have a interest in makeup at all.

You do what you want. Just be aware makeup may cause your face to act up

R67H · 2022-04-25T16:59:00+00:00

Dude, I'm a 52yo straight, white, hetero, rural, veteran MAN. And I'd totally rock nail polish. Even eyeliner, IDGAF...I have pretty eyes. Having to be forced into traditional gender templates by others shows me how weak and timid those people really are.

taoofmojo · 2022-04-25T17:30:50+00:00

Some of the hardness dudes in the world have nail polish on their toes.

Neat_Zookeepergame99 · 2022-04-25T16:02:38+00:00

B-b-b-but muh stronk society!!1!1

Good for you OP, live the life that you want to live. Most 'virtues' that a man is told to follow are just there to keep him in line. For example; they want you to be stoic so that when they draft you and send you into a battlefield or throw you down a mineshaft, or get divorced raped or whatever the fuck men typically go through, you'll be a REAL MAN and accept it and not complain one bit.

Mystic_Submissive · 2022-04-25T18:14:01+00:00

Of course you gonna express emotions. Men are no robots but humans with feelings. Be manly, only IF you like it. #Freechoice

PaulfussKrile · 2022-04-25T22:09:37+00:00

I know how you feel, man. In the West, the woman’s role has expanded so much that their duties have stretched beyond the home, but the man’s role as the sole provider and protector has stayed in place. Why should I have to conform to my traditional roles if women don’t have to?

Flat_Eric_1200 · 2022-04-25T18:18:35+00:00

Just saying, a lot of male rock stars wear nail polish and eyeliner. Looks cool to me 😸

SolidStateStanlay · 2022-04-25T16:10:47+00:00

I grew up in a small town with a kind if closed off mind set. It was really hard for me to comprehend fragile masculinity. I just didn't see why people took every little thing as an assault against their masculinity.

I would make harmless jokes because I found it all so arbitrary and people would flip out. "Are you gay, bro?!!!"

I still think it's funny how easy it is to set a certain type of man off.

Something funny on my life right now is. A friend of mine is getting married and wants everyone to dress up as Star Wars. I don't want to do that. He wants me to be his best man.

I told him I didn't want to dress up as Star Wars. I've tolerated his hang ups for years. He told me, "you'll be fine". But you say the word dick around him and it's the end of the world.

chrisdidwht · 2022-04-25T18:32:10+00:00

They only want you to be that divine masculine so you can SERVE women. I dont mean just directly. They want you to build things, protect women, and always put a woman first simply because she is a woman. All of this is to just train you to serve women.

They dont want you to wear nail polish because it doesnt fit the typical female fantasy of a hyper masculine man the blindly serves them.

You do you man. If wearing nail polish makes you happy then do it. You arent hurting anyone.

If you wanna cry go ahead. Let it out. Its normal. You are human.

Ignore everyone that tells you otherwise. They just want you to be a servant.

Throwawayingaccount · 2022-04-25T19:57:17+00:00

I applaud you doing this.

But it will be a hard road forward, and there will be unfortunate consequences.

I'd say that a lot of men think like you, and want the same things.

Unfortunately, for heterosexual men, doing those things often correlates poorly with success in the dating market.

Are there women that like men who do such things? Yes. However, there's way less women like that, then men who enjoy doing those things.

And so, a lot of men have to make the decision:

Probably be alone and question every waking day if you will ever find companionship.

OR

Abandon the hobbies you want, and live life according to someone else's rules, but with someone at your side.

There's no right answer, just YOUR answer.

teslacars · 2022-04-26T04:40:30+00:00

You mean you don't have a long beard, a lifted truck, and a safe full of guns?

DivyanshPanwari · 2022-04-26T05:57:38+00:00

I had a toned down version of it happen to me. Me and my friend made a bet which i lost she asked me to paint my nails black for a week. Parents asked why was i doing it i said it was for a bet. Then after 7 days i painted then again. The whole "society" came down on me like 'you shouldn't do this." "Nail polish isn't for men" , " we don't like seeing nail polish on your hands" even random strangers in the train were giving me unsolicited advice on that. However i wasn't going to budge so i kept them on for another couple weeks.

little_jimmy_jackson · 2022-04-26T06:04:20+00:00

Right on time. I just had my toes done yesterday for the first time in 3 months. It's the best!, and to hell with anyone trying to tell me to be a "real man" or any other nonsense. Those types of people are just trying to pull you back inside the cage that they are still trapped in.

Always remember these:

the foundation of masculinity is Courage
it takes courage to do what you want despite some people bullying: "it's girly", it takes courage to be true to yourself and face sticking out or being different, the losers will try their best to bully you back to being "normal" just like everyone else.
the least masculine thing you could ever, ever do in life is to ALLOW SOME OTHER MAN TO DECIDE FOR YOU what you will and will not wear, say, build, do, work, marry, move, cook, believe, eat, drink, dance or literally anything under the sun. Make up your own mind and walk your own path , that's the most "manly man" thing that any person could ever do.

DRGDriller · 2022-04-26T15:59:49+00:00

Posted in the wrong sub, r/menslib is over there.

Hyper masculine lmao.

donthatemeloljoke · 2022-04-28T11:08:34+00:00

I really like the mens right community. But the 'society emmasulates men' stuff you hear is toxic. A man is a man whatever he likes, whatever he's into, whatever his emotions are etc. There is no such thing as a stereotypically man or women.

As long as youre not hurting anyone, people should be able to do whatever the wanna do

Sitheral · 2022-05-03T06:22:17+00:00

In general, I would like to be what I feel like. I'm sure womans feel like that about themselves as well, but they usually also have a very strong idea of what man should be like - its probably more biological than anything else and it really doesn't stand too well with the modern man because we are changing with the times and seeing what was an absolute truth to our ancestors as what it really is - we are build stronger so we took the roles that require it, and we still need those, but nowhere near as much as back then. We have machines.

The notion that I cannot, for example wear certain clothes always seemed straight ridiculous to me. No wonder mans are often these sad, bleak creatures when they work the shit out of themselves in hard jobs and are denied like half of the life pleasures afterwards.

I don't even think masculinity is in crisis or anything like that, I think we are at the beginning of entirely new masculinity that is more in line with the feminine side because that's simply way more fun and we molded the world so that it can be more fun and less dangerous agressive everyday deadly hunting.

I think true equality should be about letting us all do whatever we feel like doing, not trying to artificially control what we can and cannot do, in other words don't build new walls, just destroy existing ones.

And I believe in this setup there would probably not be that many woman engineers and not that many mens wearing dresses anyway, but the point is, that one woman out of hundred that became engineer and that one guy out of hundred whos wearing dresses, they would be right persons at the right place.

Dismal-Opposite-6946 · 2022-04-25T19:41:22+00:00

r/malepolish

Dismal-Opposite-6946 · 2022-04-25T19:43:26+00:00

I wish I had enough coins to give this an award

Ryuujinken · 2022-04-26T05:08:36+00:00

Imo you can still be manly using whatever you want. Break the stereotypes.

Superb-Locksmith-228 · 2022-04-25T16:28:12+00:00

No, I Will cry. I'll cry ponds. Rivers. Oceans. I'll cry so much that my lachrymal glands will implode.

And I wanna use nail polish.

I think this is exactly what manning up means. Well done. And not coincidentally it is most often manifests in a rebellion against the father figure.

eddboat112 · 2022-04-25T20:50:23+00:00

Being male is something youre born into, but being a man is something you choose to be.

Just because youre male, doesnt mean you shouldnt have emotions, or to be mostly stoic, or to carry yourself in a way that others will perceive as "manly". But if you dont want to be perceived a certain way, then you should definitely be aware of how youre coming off.

For example: painting your nails isnt gay, showing emotion isnt weak, and being passive isnt doesnt mean youre scared. But you cannot control how others perceive you, and these things are things that, lets face it, come off very feminine to others, including other men whether or not the guys in this sub will admit to it or not.

Listen, being a man isnt easy. Its fucking tough out here for us. But part of being a man is to overcome all the bs in your life to become the man you want to be, and you cant do that if youre sitting here complaining about how unfair it all is. Life isnt fair, we all know this. Being a man is to recognize this, and still find a way to succeed.

I know im gonna get downvoted to hell for this because of that last paragraph but its true, life is what it is, and as men we have to adapt to it and find a way to be successful, in an age where masculinity is being attacked and minimized to the point where its very hard to find in men these days. Id argue that this "hyper masculinity" that youre talking about is feminist propaganda that youve been hearing, because today, masculinity is something that this country (the US), and every other western country desperately needs. Its my opinion that these countries have a lot of males, but not enough men, which is where I think a lot of our modern societal issues stem from.

manbro7 · 2022-04-25T21:19:12+00:00

Height and masculinity helps protect women's insecurity by her overcompensating with you, rather than fixing her own insecurity.

The men get brainwashed or emotionally manipulated into thinking men should be "hypermasculine or else losers" thinking and they repeat the shaming onto other men to prove themselves.

In essence, they want the world to revolve around them and if you don't fit it, you get shamed to make you fit into it.

Main-Temperature4234 · 2022-04-25T22:15:09+00:00

All this "divine masculine" stuff came from a time when societies were far more collectivist. Kind of like how dogs only see two colours, it was simplest and easier for control to assign people roles and characteristics by their junk.

Maybe there's some deep spiritual truth about gender, but the reality is that many cultures used a whole lot of spiritual mumbo jumbo in order to hide the fact that the core purpose of their "initiation rituals" was to train boys - willing or not - to be the next set of fighters (read meatshields) for the community. They just piled all sorts of wisdom on it to give it a mystical aura.

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-04-25T19:56:59+00:00

Being a good person. Let’s focus on that I would say.

patxiku93 · 2022-04-25T20:20:11+00:00

Good, if it makes you happy do whatever you want. Screw what anyone else thinks.

aknabi · 2022-04-26T10:35:03+00:00

"Just what the heck is a "manly man"?"

A schlub that (with women) pays for everything, expects nothing in return, agrees with any illogical statement, puts up with any irrational behavior, and will give their life on request with no questions asked... in other words...

A dude that doormats.

Intelligent-Can-552 · 2022-04-25T18:57:00+00:00

Run…don’t walk to the nearest mental hospital.

Echo_XB3 · 2022-04-25T20:33:57+00:00

I am happy to be an idiot sitting inside playing games most of the time.

WesternSmall2794 · 2022-04-26T05:55:47+00:00

Is nail polishing that important to you, or do you feel a need to break free from whatever is holding you? To me it seems the latter, and I would advice you not to get in a lot of trouble over something you don't consider important. But yeah, if you really value polishing your nails, do as you wish.

Just two notes, crying changes nothing, unless making others feel guilt is what you seek, and "let men be men" goes for things that are common in all men. Nail polishing would need a slogan like "I'm human too", therefore "I'm entitled to my own choices", while "let men be men" would apply to teachers trying to force boys not to run.

Rannarmethman · 2022-04-26T12:44:41+00:00

No, I will NOT be a Manly Man

Haha yeah bro we can tell lmao

Lice138 · 2022-04-26T13:46:52+00:00

There is a growing culture of men not being men.

DonDuarte · 2022-04-25T22:38:00+00:00

Use whatever you want. You will always be a man, no matter what anyone else tells you.

However, keep in mind that society has standards and expectations. If you want their acceptance, you can't expect to do whatever you want. For example, if you want to be hired in a company where your visual will be relevant, using make-up and nail polish won't do you any favours. Having a tatoo saying "I love Hitler" on your forehead won't either. It's not a matter of looking feminine, it's a matter of standing out in a way that doesn't have people feel seduced by you (in fact, quite the opposite).

A man should be worried about looking manly if they want success in society, but there have been charismatic people who find success even looking weird. You do you!

Vallahaiye · 2022-04-26T03:10:02+00:00

Fuck being a man. Be a person. Feel what you feel, do want you do and be who you are.

randomguytakingashit · 2022-04-25T22:44:29+00:00

Great writing prompt butter-cup. Kudos! *awards you a virtue signal sticker*

Fasahat11 · 2022-04-25T22:04:18+00:00

lmaooo i understood the chakka people,

be your own person OP, your life, not your parents,

Certifiedloser77 · 2022-04-25T22:07:43+00:00

Then your not a man.

Gonathen · 2022-04-26T04:23:30+00:00

Here is a link on how to be a MANLY MAN these guys can help you out, trust me bro. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=20GkBnhQqY0

[Edit: I couldn't find the original version sadly. Never mind I found the original!]

XXKittenishXX · 2022-04-26T04:51:48+00:00

I wear nail polish, I like it personally.

T-tail88 · 2022-04-26T08:25:54+00:00

It's ok if you want to paint your nails, wear makeup, dresses, think you can get pregnant, etc. It's also ok if other guys find that unusual. I certainly do but I won't stop you.

FatherOfLights88 · 2022-04-26T09:16:50+00:00

If the Divine Masculine is suffocating you, then it's not the "divine" that you're feeling, bit something else.

When you feel inspired to be a certain way, or to evolve yourself into a certain role, that is divine.

If you're feeling pressured to conform to a set of criteria defined as "divine", that's actually something toxic you're feeling.

Its important to be able to draw a distinction between to two, so you can tell the difference between pressure and inspiration. They are not the same.

Due_Ad9763 · 2022-04-26T09:19:42+00:00

You do you , but being stoic and masculine is not bad

Valzemodeus · 2022-04-26T10:31:22+00:00

I don't think anyone here is really going to give you the resistance you seem to be hoping for, aside from maybe clearing up a few things for you regarding divine masculine/feminine and how they have little to nothing to do with fashion choices and more with social dynamics at work.

ivanoud · 2022-04-26T10:47:21+00:00

I think the problem isn't really masculinity, but people perception of it. Masculinity is a quality, not a personality.

I think this is a societal problem. Wearing nail polish can be masculine. Back then, men are the ones who wear make-up, have fashionable clothes and wear heels.

We are slowly going back to that - it's acceptable for normal men nowadays to wear make-up and express themselves, though not in many places, but at least it's out there. In time, it will be more acceptable.

I definitely get where you're coming from. I wear light make-up to enhance my looks, and wear clear polish. Rather than scream and yell, I show. I want people to see that masculinity can look good too. I want it to be normalized not by words, but action.

hooibergje · 2022-04-26T11:10:46+00:00

Part of being a manly man is doing exactly what the fuck you want, within reason and the law.

If you want the cry a big bloody ocean, you do you.

If you want to try on nail polish, just let them try stopping you.

You are more manly than your father by a long shot, for standing up to him and for making your own choices in life.

OldStretch3970 · 2022-04-26T12:24:01+00:00

This is Mens Rights, sir. Not Fruits Rights. Youre welcome to stay if you got a dick.

TheRealMekkor · 2022-04-26T12:39:44+00:00

Manly men stand up for what they believe in, spine erect, speaking the truth, and though capable of doing harm show restraint.

It is not machismo culture of fast cars, low moral standards, bigotry, and hatred.

jayval90 · 2022-04-25T20:45:03+00:00

Self-image that comes from internal feelings and emotion instead of a purpose that is set from an external perspective will always result in a neurotic personality, which is a lot of negative emotion. This is bad for both men and women.

redpills1 · 2022-04-25T23:12:09+00:00

I feel like you in many ways, although I don't like nail polish(I don't like it on anyone regardless of gender) I also suffer from other people(especially family) expecting me to be manly, especially when it comes to my hair which is significantly longer than what most men have but still not as long as the average woman. I get comments from my family for having long hair even when it is well shaped and not messy at all, just because as a man I am expected to have short hair.

It is really sad how many men doesn't realize that manhood is nothing but something that limits them and makes them into nothing but useful tools which have no value other than being useful for the woman which includes being tough/strong and other "manly" attributes. This is why in most relationships the man is being seen and treated as some kind of daddy for the woman.

Bitcoin_Or_Bust · 2022-04-26T10:02:18+00:00

This smells off.

bacon-wrapped-steak · 2022-04-25T21:59:32+00:00

What the fuck is this disgusting shit doing on the Men's Rights subreddit? Mods???

Content-Split-5477 · 2022-04-26T10:00:34+00:00

Stop being a bitch.

ThosPuddleOfDoom · 2022-04-26T08:12:29+00:00

It's the same with longer hair, The amount of people that used to rip into me for that untill I ended up just cutting it shorter was kinda depressing.

Hippoliciouz · 2022-04-26T11:42:22+00:00

I wore nail polish in the 90s a lot in my early 20s, and for reference I grew into a big burly manly man, who goes to the gym, according to my wife, sister, and various other personal friends and colleagues. I wore nail polish in my formative years out of a desire to not fit in, to be different, and maybe a little bit to be noticed. I found everyone, even back then, was more than accepting or literally didn't care. Point being I think your father is an isolated example. I think the vast majority of "manly men" or anyone else, wouldn't have a problem with you wearing anything you like. So go be as wild and different as you like. ;-)

Title	No, I will NOT be a Manly Man
Author	WesternSmall2794
Upvotes	209
Comments	194
Date	April 25, 2022 3:06 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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