STUDY: "Are Feminists Man Haters?"

blitz_omlet · 2012-04-28T07:33:19+00:00

40% of the study was dropped from analysis because they weren't able to define sexism, but they already had a general atttiude scale for feminist tendencies and that's a better thing to compare with a general ambivalence attitude scale than a single-item self-identification scale. The r between general attitude scales can be as high as .7 while a self-identifiction scale to attitude still scores much lower. That's been known for decades.

Furthermore, people were dropped because they self-identified as feminists but got the nature of feminism "wrong", for example a woman writing words to the effect "feminism is hating men"? That raises huge concerns about criteria contamination considering the study is testing that very relationship. No tests on the effect of "understanding feminism" have been made, and a very popular hypothesis in the general consciousness is that it's the feminists who believe that feminism is about hating men rather than about equality who are the problem, because they are the ones misappropriating the term, the movement, the lobbying power etc.

Only 14% of the entire sample identified in the experiemental group (feminists); that means that homogeneity of variance (an assumption necessary for a parametric like an F-test to even be valid) could be compromised. No Levene's test was conducted. Hell, there's not a standard deviation or population variance to be found in the entire fucking paper, something that would get you failed as an undergrad submitting a lab report as early as first year. They manage to write "Analysis of Variance" but not report any estimations of population variance, anywhere.

There may be something I've missed here... but...... really?

justsomeguyudontknow · 2012-04-28T05:33:39+00:00

Eh, even women who don't self-identify as feminist don't exactly have healthy attitudes towards men. Damned if they are, damned if they aren't. I don't really trust American women in general. I think it's just because feminist attitudes are so mainstream anyway as to not seem obvious, and are combined with the power of old-school female privileges.

SpanishGuy · 2012-04-28T01:45:31+00:00

Only a few hours ago

aetheralloy · 2012-04-28T09:04:38+00:00

You aren't going to hear the truth from feminists by asking them.

You have to observe what they actually do.

SpeakToTheSky · 2012-04-28T01:54:40+00:00

What Feminists say is meaningless. What they do demonstrates their hate.

dessicatedfetus · 2012-04-28T01:36:34+00:00

the study was interesting, but if I've learned one thing from feminists, its' that what they say and what they do are two completely different things.

lets see some studies documenting their behavior toward men and see what the results are.

Whisper · 2012-04-28T04:53:53+00:00

Oooh! A self-report study! How meaningful.

Also, I am a billionaire with an IQ of 203, and a 14 inch penis.

NiceIce · 2012-04-28T02:32:58+00:00

Answer: YES.

OThomson · 2012-04-28T02:33:34+00:00

They don't hate us, they just don't care.

Wordshark · 2012-04-28T15:34:10+00:00

Well, here's a copypasta of my comment from the first time this study was posted here:

Yeah, I took a look at this report. It's...bad, it's just bad. I think many other commenters covered that well though, so moving on--

Even if this study had been executed perfectly, it would still only prove that feminists don't consider themselves anti-man. Even if it fixed that and proved that feminists weren't anti-male at all, it doesn't make a lick of difference in the face of all the undeniable harm feminism does to men and men's rights. I mean, with decades of ignoring or actively campaigning against men's rights issues, I don't really give a shit if you have good intentions.

ZimbaZumba · 2012-04-28T16:59:23+00:00

I have read this paper before, as to how it got passed any peer review is beyond my understanding.

It is utter rubbish in its scientific method, interpretation, results and conclusions. Another embarrassment to Academia.

2012-04-28T15:48:25+00:00

I don't need to read a study done by an incompetent feminist attempting to convince people that feminism isn't based on contempt of the male sex.

2012-04-28T10:36:34+00:00

Not directly. They appear to have sociopathic tendencies, or are at least straight-up misanthropes.

2012-04-28T13:24:19+00:00

Psychological surveys that rely on self-reporting are notoriously unreliable because the participants are inclined to answer according to expectations. In fact, the many psychological experiments to evaluate the influence of suggestion and expectations show that people often respond strongly to even subtle suggestions. I've also seen some studies recently that reported that women are more prone to this sort of influence than men.

In this context, I would expect a group of college women that identify as feminists to be well versed in the politically correct egalitarian answers to gender questions, and would be motivated to answer them according to these expectations.

My personal experience agrees with the categorization of feminists into two groups: equity feminists and partisan feminists. The latter group tend to be openly hostile towards men. The former group give at least nominal support to the idea that feminism is about gender equality. But in my experience, the commitment to equality is rather superficial in many of the equity feminists I've discussed with, both in real life and online. When pressed, their pro-female / anti-male biases soon become evident.

I would expect the equity feminists I've encountered to test low for hostility to males on a questionnaire. But as others have pointed out, their real world actions often belie their egalitarian words.

2012-04-28T14:08:20+00:00

The results in Table 2 show that both feminist and non-feminist women were significantly more hostile than benevolent towards men.

So perhaps the question should be "Are Women Man Haters"? From these data, the answer is yes.

2012-04-28T15:47:16+00:00

Spurious methodology... lol.

AnnArchist · 2012-04-28T22:53:36+00:00

The answer to the post title is going to be generally "Yes, but some aren't self-aware enough to recognize it"

8echos · 2012-04-28T01:20:34+00:00

I'd say this is pretty pertinent to /MR, considering half of the FAQ is dedicated to opinions of anti-feminism.

Title	STUDY: "Are Feminists Man Haters?"
Author	8echos
Upvotes	11
Comments	73
Date	April 28, 2012 1:16 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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