Why do "socialists" look down so much on the manosphere?

g1455ofwater · 2024-10-17T22:51:38+00:00

So many of these types that claim to be for the abused, marginalized and vulnerable hate abused, marginalized and vulnerable men. A very easy test is to ask someone how they feel about incels, anyone that cares about people with no power and status in society would be big champions for incels but these liars never are.

HiramCoburn · 2024-10-17T22:31:01+00:00

Why do feminist think all socialist countries embrace feminism?

Lovebomber777 · 2024-10-18T10:30:02+00:00

Let's be real again. All of this can be reversed in a DAY if MEN as a collective said enough of the bullshit from feminists.

But there is no great gathering among men itself. We need to fix that... Once that is achieved... Do you think feminists stand a chance to even open their crappy mouths?

random_sm · 2024-10-17T21:09:47+00:00

Well. She clearly labels manosphere as right wing.

calmly86 · 2024-10-17T23:03:26+00:00

A huge irony here is that when it comes to sex, dating and marriage, liberal leaning men and women who hate capitalism will spout talking points that make them sound EXACTLY like a conservative talking about “bootstrap-ism.” Exactly the same points. They have no problem with free market capitalism… when they benefit from it sexually and securing a provider. For everything else, they want socialism.

AigisxLabrys · 2024-10-18T13:31:57+00:00

Because they hate everything they perceive to be “right wing.”

mhk23 · 2024-10-18T00:26:43+00:00

The guys who created the red pill space from the early 2000s until now, have upset many academics because pick up artistry, red pill, manosphere, revealing the true nature of reality and unflattering truths make women look bad. Academia we know now was heavily influenced by communists as well. Feminism is an offshoot it. If an academic spent his whole life invested in a certain ideology or theory but it took a red pill aware guy real life experience to come to the same conclusion, it will upset the academic. I have spent a lot of time in academia and I appreciate how well the red pill connects the dots. It cuts through many disciplines. Read Rollo’s books and I mean that in the most sincere and intellectually honest way. Start here:

https://www.youtube.com/live/nytyFAJfPz0?feature=shared

Also, women are solipsistic and communitarian. Women want the rights of men, privileges of being a woman (chivalry) and the accountability of children.

Apart-Dog1591 · 2024-10-18T19:40:37+00:00

21st century socialists have been brainwashed into accepting the ideology of cultural Marxism, which categorizes men as an oppressor group. A member of an oppressor group complaining that they are being oppressed deeply troubles the socialist because it undermines their indoctrination.

That's the short answer.

phoenician_anarchist · 2024-10-18T00:17:11+00:00

Same reason that they despise Christianity, men's social clubs, video games, etc.

"opium for the masses"

In order for socialism to exist, they must destroy everything else that isn't part of their cult such that you are wholly reliant on them. It's controlling and abusive behaviour that should be seen for what it is.

Sintar07 · 2024-10-18T13:01:49+00:00

her... she...

There's your issue ;)

But joking aside, you should understand that, barring a few genuine saints who are already doing what they can and want to do more, socialists don't really care about you.

They broadly fall into three categories in my experience, and the best, the middle class to wealthy who believe in the system, are still low key using it as an excuse not to care about the people around them (who they could already be helping), like "I'm a more advanced human because I care for everyone, unlike normal people who just care for their family, friends, and neighbors."

The second are the poor socialists, who are only going to benefitting in theory, not contributing, and they know it.

The third are the worst by far, the political socialists who know damn well it won't be as rosy as they say, but they're gonna tell the first two groups (and the rare saints) what they want to hear to get power. They may or may not actually pursue it when they get there, but either way they expect to be in that top dog group that gets to decide how everything gets distributed, and is well compensated for it.

This woman is not one of the saints, and that means she doesn't care about you, or likely anyone really but herself.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2024-10-19T12:30:48+00:00

I couldn't even watch the whole video I got 18 mins in.

Mazzmarach · 2024-10-19T19:14:34+00:00

There cannot be Socialism without the illusion of an oppressor. To stoke the fires of the downtrodden (women) to burn the "status quo" (the "Patriarchy") to the ground, you must convince them (women) that they have been under the "unfair" heel (the "Patriarchy") of their fellow man. It is easier to rid yourself of a thing you've had for a long time when your perception of it changes into something revolting that must be removed.

Wonderful_Working315 · 2024-10-17T21:04:37+00:00

Because socialism is a form of collectivism. Women are wired more towards collectivism, i.e. resource sharing.

Men lean more towards cooperation. i.e. trade between willing parties.

What we have now has morphed from free market capitalism to oligarchy/cronyism.

We can either open markets back up, and reward risk and innovation. Or we can double down and perform more wealth transfers and central planning(corruption)

Xanto10 · 2024-10-18T12:19:40+00:00

I'm a communist and I don't, probably you're referring only to a certain kind of "leftists" who most often than not have nothing to do with socialism

LostActor0921 · 2024-10-18T10:39:51+00:00

Because it's a feminine Ideology that only exceeds when weak men allow it.

MannerNo7000 · 2024-10-17T19:58:33+00:00

Many socialists don’t. You’re cherry picking.

Capitalism only works well for a specific type of man.

Try separating economic systems from social and cultural issues.

cyb3rfunk · 2024-10-18T02:09:57+00:00

The manosphere as it is painted by most media is a pretty shitty thing. I think anyone with a minimum of empathy would have problems with it - and socialists are usually empathetic people.

Of course the media is cherry picking the worst elements of it so the depiction is completely off.

However, to know this from the outside you need to think "let's get exposed to this hyper toxic social space" (hyper toxic being how it is represented, not how it is) - and most people aren't willing to do it.

Muscularhyperatrophy · 2024-10-17T20:23:41+00:00

Simple. It’s because a lot of Marxist ideals are rooted in 3rd wave Feminism. It’s no longer about gender equality. It’s now about “equity”, where the same standards aren’t applied to all to uplift the ones who underperform while at the expense of those who perform with better quality.

Black-Patrick · 2024-10-18T05:17:52+00:00

Masculinity is and always has been a deterrent and a threat to socialist and communist society.

szopongebob · 2024-10-21T01:29:50+00:00

I don’t think it’s a socialism issue, more of a lack of empathy issue.

Title	Why do "socialists" look down so much on the manosphere?
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Date	October 17, 2024 7:38 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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