nobody's getting it done gleefully. a man who is shamed into thinking he needs to have the best part of his penis cut off to be accepted by women is not in any way gleeful.
whether or not they're impacted is highly controversial. some recent studies show that circumcision actually makes HIV and HPV transmission MORE likely.
genital mutilation isn't medical care. children, by their nature, have a right to bodily integrity and a right to be protected from sexual abuse at the hands of adults.
i'm not telling anyone their problems don't mean shit. you're the one here telling me and others that our problems don't mean shit.
Calling it a horrendous crime when most circumcised people are very happy it was done to them isn't going to get you anywhere except on this sub where it's guaranteed up votes
it's not a risk of harm, it's a guarantee of harm. 100% of men who were circumcised are missing parts of their penis. that's a harm.
the risk of complications in addition to that deliberate intended harm is also quite high. at least 11.5% of circumcised boys will suffer harm in addition to the deliberate loss of normal penis parts:
it's a bronze age blood sacrifice that is perpetuated almost exclusively by those who had it forced on them so they don't have to feel bad about their own bodies.
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ehh, it's still body shaming somebody into mutilating themselves. do you feel the same way when adult women in africa get circumcised?
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it's exactly the same thing.
i'm not sure where you got the idea that the adult women being circumcised in africa didn't consent to it, but you're wrong.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/female-genital-mutilation-cutting-anthropologist/389640/
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nobody's getting it done gleefully. a man who is shamed into thinking he needs to have the best part of his penis cut off to be accepted by women is not in any way gleeful.
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what if they've been body shamed into it?
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the vast majority of the men posting these threads are men who actually were circumcised.
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why is that? what if you'd been left whole? do you think you'd change that as an adult?
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hm. how do you think you'd feel about it if they'd removed your testicles as an infant?
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whether or not they're impacted is highly controversial. some recent studies show that circumcision actually makes HIV and HPV transmission MORE likely.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31608845/
https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/stds/news/online/%7Bee2769c4-b9b0-4daa-8eef-943c7205ed6c%7D/circumcised-men-at-twice-the-risk-for-cancer-causing-hpv-study-shows
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the AAP does not currently take any position on it. the last position they took expired more than two years ago.
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the posts above link to the AAP's statement from 2012 that expired two years ago.
the AAP does not take any position on circumcision at all. no current AAP statement claims that circumcision offers any benefit whatsoever.
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just as we're entitled to believe that this is by far the biggest thing affecting men. we're denied our rights to our own bodies.
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i disagree. i don't think any of that matters if i don't even have my right to my own body.
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genital mutilation isn't medical care. children, by their nature, have a right to bodily integrity and a right to be protected from sexual abuse at the hands of adults.
i'm not telling anyone their problems don't mean shit. you're the one here telling me and others that our problems don't mean shit.
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Calling it a horrendous crime when most circumcised people are very happy it was done to them isn't going to get you anywhere except on this sub where it's guaranteed up votes
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Women like it and it would be annoying to do as an adult. You don't need to play dumb.
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why would women like a smaller penis?
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A big circumcised dick is still larger than a small uncircumcised... LOL
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but that particular penis is smaller now that it's missing parts. why would women prefer a penis that has been surgically reduced in size?
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Ask them. This is not a myth.
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it is a myth. most women go their whole lives without even seeing a scarred partial penis and would be horrified to be surprised with one.
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Lol sure thing bud.
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how is doing it to males any less evil than doing it to females?
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no, i think aborting males is precisely as evil as aborting females.
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this woman clearly has already had it done.
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it's not a risk of harm, it's a guarantee of harm. 100% of men who were circumcised are missing parts of their penis. that's a harm.
the risk of complications in addition to that deliberate intended harm is also quite high. at least 11.5% of circumcised boys will suffer harm in addition to the deliberate loss of normal penis parts:
http://spuonline.org/abstracts/2018/P21.cgi
how do you feel about women choosing clitoral excision for cultural reasons?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/female-genital-mutilation-cutting-anthropologist/389640/
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The anti crowd brigades every thread on this topic with multiple alts. They're loud but have smaller members than you would imagine.
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because it can't possibly be that more than a few men actually oppose having part of their penis cut off.
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Its not more than a few, otherwise you guys wouldn't bother cycling through multiple accoints.
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because it's not possible that we're actually all different people who happen to agree with each other, right?
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Typing questions instead of statements makes you sound weak.
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you're not getting your foreskin back. you're making what you have left of a penis look less damaged.
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it's a bronze age blood sacrifice that is perpetuated almost exclusively by those who had it forced on them so they don't have to feel bad about their own bodies.
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You people are completely uninformed. Here are some studies that demonstrate the health benefits of circumcision:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3684945/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296634/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478224/
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circumcision doesn't prevent bladder infections, tho.
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you're moving the goalposts. also, circumcision doesn't prevent urinary tract infection.
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to the contrary, having a foreskin decreases the risk. it's there for a reason:
http://sciencenordic.com/male-circumcision-greatly-increases-risk-urinary-tract-problems
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you're not being attacked for anything best put in a medical sub. you're being attacked for you opposition to a man's right to bodily integrity.
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