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biggestuzifanea · 2021-07-22T17:47:22+00:00

Men like to shit talk and our pussified culture is mad about it, there's nothing extreme. There's a shoot out in Chicago almost everyday with multiple fatalies yet when one incel does something it's plastered all over the news, it's just to keep pushing the man hate which in turn sends more people to the red and blackpill

xFallacyx69 · 2021-07-22T18:23:19+00:00

Alienate more people from society, get more extremists fighting back… maybe we should look for actual solutions instead of pretending there isn’t a problem with toxic relationships and the declining middle class / two parent households

idrinkapplejuice42 · 2021-07-22T17:51:05+00:00

Is it wrong tho?

2021-07-22T19:01:28+00:00

So this is what passes for "science" now. Biased researchers and observers reaching conclusions and then looking for evidence to support them.

angels-fan · 2021-07-22T21:12:44+00:00

Men are losing in our gynocentric society, are still held to 1950s standards, and are mad about it.

Shocking.

Did we really need a study to know this?

AntifaSuperSwoledier · 2021-07-22T19:20:00+00:00

Braincels was a perfect containment board. Incels had a home there but it wasn't full of absolute nutcases like there are on .co. braincels was mostly just shit posting and humour.

Reddit did a huge disservice when they banned it. Now the only home for incels are the extreme sites

Philip8000 · 2021-07-23T05:14:46+00:00

I expect it's a real problem, but I'm also wondering what the definition of extremism is. All too often, I've heard it defined as anything that isn't woke. I've been leaning increasingly democrat over the past year, but still get called a right-wing extremist.

Problem is, you've got a group of people with few prospects for economic gain or success when it comes to romance. There are numerous reasons for this, which would take far too long to write, but that's what we're facing right now. When it seems like no matter what you do, nothing changes, it's very easy to get bitter.

With romance struggles, you'll be called an "incel" or a monster no matter what if you dare vocalize them. It's the subject of a much-maligned blog post from Slatestarcodex: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/ And it doesn't seem fair when genuinely worthless people: drug dealers, criminals, wife beaters have no trouble finding girlfriends when your efforts seem futile. Many lonely men have had similar experiences when they open up about depression and suicide. Most won't go into incel communities, but a few will.

Teflon08191 · 2021-07-23T00:26:06+00:00

It's almost like sweeping men's grievances under the rug isn't a viable solution to stymie their growing discontent.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-07-22T17:45:54+00:00

While I'm always skeptical on what people perceive "hate speech" to be, I'm not surprised it is growing and becoming a little more "extreme", a lot of these same Concepts have been in society for years, it's just their turn to now be rebranded as the "red pill" and things of that nature

gkom1917 · 2021-07-22T19:36:23+00:00

Nice data, however such definition of "extremism" makes that data a huge disservice

Playful_Art_5364 · 2021-07-22T20:24:20+00:00

Pickup was about getting women to like you. It was about not fucking up conversation. Inherently it was about finding LTR and that it was the guys fault if shits not working.

The rest of the shit is blaming women for the mans moral/cultural failings.

Pickup by accidentally is the antithesis to the modern manosphere. It’s says height money wealth none of that shit matters. It’s about your personality and ability to communicate your intentions and feelings.

SaBahRub · 2021-07-22T21:22:11+00:00

Offensive fringe groups and echo chambers do tend to grow in isolation, yes.

SGD316 · 2021-07-23T01:34:41+00:00

Super impressive source on that research. /s

But given the state of things the issue is rising with no solution so of course extreme views on the topic and the number of people into them are on the upswing.

An actual academic study in the UK showed something like 60+% of men are now sexless in college. Had you said that to someone like me who went to college in the early 2000s I would have called you a liar.

ThrowAwayBro737 · 2021-07-24T13:15:48+00:00

Wait. You’re telling me that if you ban or censor ideas, those ideas are never open to wide scrutiny and they become more radical and virulent over time?

WizardTheodore · 2021-07-23T03:20:22+00:00

I was actually in some of the incel subs back in the day, they were composed mostly of arguments and memes. It wasn’t very extreme at all.

John_Oakman · 2021-07-23T20:39:21+00:00

When mainstream society expect undesirables to continue their role as exploitable pack mules in the name of the greater good, is it really a surprise that many instead choose to reject the greater good altogether?

cunningcaring · 2021-07-22T22:08:17+00:00

Nonsense research because it just depends on what subreddits you monitor.

2021-07-23T00:19:34+00:00

There's really no where to go with MRA stuff. You can't change any of those societal level issues through leafletting and demonstrations, and most guys who are reading it aren't divorced dads dealing with paternity fraud they're alienated 21 year old guys who really just need community and relationship. TRP is actionable. IMO.

SuperSaiyanAssHair · 2021-07-23T14:41:03+00:00

Ok... what was the next step in the mouse experiment?

Exciting-Necessary-5 · 2021-07-23T15:28:53+00:00

I think this symbolizes a collective rp-rage of a large group of males. I think this trend will grow and sustain itself as rp content grows and the mindsets of more men are shaken.

I've also noticed the rise of newer personalities in the manosphere and even the rise of women sympathetic to it. Should be an interesting decade for gender Dynamics.

AntifaSuperSwoledier · 2021-07-22T23:53:50+00:00

Sounds to me like progressives need to give men an actual incentive to play ball with them rather than turn to other communities.

MrShakedown1 · 2021-07-23T00:35:38+00:00

Good, we need fight fire with....napalm !! You can ban subs, but you have no way to change people's minds, so they adapt to new policed reality like in USSR and act according to their agenda.

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NICHIJOU2411 · 2021-07-22T20:31:50+00:00

Damn, that sucks.

ffandyy · 2021-07-23T06:14:23+00:00

This can’t be a shock to anyone right?

Paliant · 2021-07-25T10:09:48+00:00

I’d agree that “mgtow” is extremist, if anyone could soundly given me an argument that the self-preservation of “mgtow” is any different from, “you go girl, you strong and independent and don’t need no man”. Until both are extremist views generally, then neither of them are.

_-CHUBUT-_ · 2021-07-22T21:24:58+00:00

Study done by radical feminists and far left 😂

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