Does "monk mode" work?

Salty-Bastard · 2018-04-25T08:12:13+00:00

Monk mode is simply focusing 100% of your energy on self improvement(s) for whatever time period is appropriate for that improvement. If I wanted to get better at playing Chess (sorry Upton) I would take say, 6 months, devour books on Chess, eat right, play online, watch Masters, and use whatever resources to maximize my ability to play Chess. I guarantee I would be better after monk mode than if I tried to do that with a full social calendar.

TheGreasyPole · 2018-04-25T08:24:22+00:00

RP doesn’t advise monk mode for everyone.

The type of people it usually particularly recommends this for are people who are very unattractive as they are. This is to prevent them “poisoning” the well in terms of hitting on every woman they know while they are still very unattractive and getting a reputation in their social circle as “that creepy guy”.

The idea is to NOT do that, spend 3-6-12m improving vastly how attractive you are and only then hitting on women for dates. This prevents the poisoning of your most valuable “target rich environment” (your social circle) and ensures you’re in a position where you will have at least some success if you start approaching women within it for dates. If you’ve done it well you’ll get girls saying the equivalent of “you’ve changed, I like the new you” rather than “ugh, get away creep”.

It’s specifically there for these guys. If you’re already pretty attractive or have had some success, you don’t need monk mode. It’s for the guys who are deeply unattractive as they currently are.

Aaren_Augustine · 2018-04-25T07:29:27+00:00

TRP tells its members to basically be really anti social

No it doesn't.

If monk mode is actually fear mode then your just avoiding; which is probably what you are observing as anti social.

If monk mode has clearly established goals and you work towards them...Basically you make it work.

Gamer_Jack_Gameson · 2018-04-25T08:16:43+00:00

Yes it can work. It worked for me. I spent about a year walking around the US countryside, backpacking and living in the wilderness. The expedition took place in 3 legs over the course of about 2 years.

I committed "social suicide"; walking away from my life and becoming a wandering hermit with no name. I had few responsibilities at this point and it was a good time for me to go. The only thing I was really losing was my job. I lost a few friends, too, but that's a side-effect.

After coming back from my adventure, I decided to go MGTOW. For me, the decision was a semi-permanent one--I eschewed relationships with women and as far as I was concerned that condition would remain in effect indefinitely. At that point (and here's where my experience differs from the OP claim) I reconnected with some old friends online and we started a discord channel. Me and 4 or 5 buddies would get online and play games together every day. We'd talk all the time, and this went on for about 6 months. It was a very happy time.

Going MGTOW didn't mean going full monk for me (no girlfriend and no casual sex), but when I realized I was in a happy place my sex drive fell off a cliff. I was open to pursuing casual sex, but I just didn't feel the need to. It wasn't worth the hassle and porn was "good enough" for where I wanted and needed to be. I started to see women as just people, like me.

Fast forward a few years and I'm now happier and more successful than ever.

VAOTOMARNOCU · 2018-04-25T10:52:33+00:00

monk mode is just "focus on hard self-improvement and ignore everything else"

it's being misused when introverts treat it as an excuse to avoid socializing (which i did). if you do not have strong social skills yet, ironically going out and practicing them should be one of your monk mode priorities

paccount112 · 2018-04-25T12:49:50+00:00

I typed monk mode into google and this was the first link

https://illimitablemen.com/2014/04/13/monk-mode/

The sacrifice: you’re going to be minimising your time contribution to social obligations and junk activities. The reason for this is because these activities consume much of your time whilst yielding little to negligible increase towards your social market value. Monk mode is a serious commitment that is not to be half-assed. You’re either doing it, or you’re not. It’ll be a struggle in the beginning, but once you’re fully engaged it becomes a beneficial, productive and dare I say even addictive lifestyle.

When I talk about “junk activities”, this is the kind of thing I’m referring to:

Going out for coffee or sitting around idly.
Playing video games.
Watching marathons of television series/movies.
Watching porn.
Constantly refreshing social media and internet forums.
Being out of action with a hangover/come down from alcohol/drug consumption.

And it sounds a lot like how I got a degree on evenings and weekends while working during the day, including overtime and travel. Basically removing time wasters and idle play from your schedule.

What you've posted sounds nothing like this, so could you please show me where you found your information?

MaxBroek · 2018-04-25T07:40:34+00:00

No! No no no. We are social creatures. If you ignore all people you care about and care about you for 6 months, you will probably not get those people back afterwards. Self improvement in one aspect of life is something that shouldn't be done by eliminating other aspects; a healthy social circle is part of self improvement and can help you a lot.

Maikowski2 · 2018-04-25T14:50:43+00:00

TRP doesn't tell that.

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changeIsTheWay · 2018-04-25T12:32:07+00:00

No. Its pseudo-scientific bullshit with a religious background.

AnnoyingSeaAnt · 2018-04-25T13:41:58+00:00

Sure, if you want to become bitter incel like me. Isolation warps you.

JustAnotherOmegaMale · 2018-04-25T18:16:27+00:00

Taking some time out to work on yourself is a valid strategy. I think it's ultimately a bad idea to put life on hold tho. Better to get out and socialize even when you don't like yourself yet. After all, self-improvement is a lifelong journey.

Million-Suns · 2018-04-25T19:47:05+00:00

Monk Mode works. I ceased seeking relationships with women for 6 years now.

Drama is gone. Pressure related to please the opposite sex is gone. Pressure to prove something to other males is gone too. I feel free from Bullshit in a way. That leaves more room for myself. Actually my life is now 98% focused on myself now.

redpillrobert · 2018-04-25T20:39:57+00:00

if your goal is never touch a pussy again, yes

mistercheeez-o____O- · 2018-04-25T20:55:05+00:00

If you are the type who works best in isolation, than I think it could be very effective. If you need more social stimulation, you'll likely find it even harder to be motivated.

newName543456 · 2018-04-25T22:40:26+00:00

If you are at low enough level that you need to take care of basics (hygiene, not being a fat boring slob who can only talk about video games etc.) sure it does.

Even if you are decent enough otherwise, it won't hurt to polish above aspects.

WolfgangBreitweit · 2018-04-29T10:45:58+00:00

It works because the missing part for men is approval. Not females. If you learn to redirect your success story from women (this is what you have been trained for after puberty), to yourself, you won. If you learn to enjoy yourself, you won. After a year or two of being without a female in your life, you even don’t think of being with one anymore. Maybe your nature urges you. But there are hookers for that circumstances. Or sex dolls/bots in the future. Women are simply too dangerous and harmful for men on the long run. They provide nothing except complaints and nagging. Your life will be short and a constant struggle to keep up with her ever growing demands. Only very few of them are useful for a long term relationship. Where give and take is part of relationship logic. I think 2 in 1000 is a realistic ratio. Unfortunately I only was lucky one time in my life to find such a woman. But she’s been married already. Lucky guy.

pinkgoldrose · 2018-04-25T08:24:21+00:00

Self-improvement is only if you're not satisfied with the people you can currently attract. Everyone can attract someone, it just might not be who you want. If you can't find anyone at all, it's not a problem with you, it's a problem with your location and search strategy.

Eastuss · 2018-04-25T07:38:16+00:00

"monk mode" where you deny yourself any immediate reward is efficient for being more efficient and goal focused. Though I don't accept the idea of asociality from monk-mode, monk-mode is supposed to motivate you going out and socialising more IMO.

Title	Does "monk mode" work?
Author	zenplus
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Date	April 25, 2018 7:20 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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