Games and Goals?

TRTGymBro · 2024-02-03T12:41:17+00:00

I think you are jumping like 10 steps ahead. Understand that most men who post here would be happy just to be able to talk to a woman in the first place, who is not their mom or barista.

PlainTundra · 2024-02-03T12:50:30+00:00

If you need a woman who will love you for who you are, show who you really are and dont try to 'attract',

While this being true in abstraction, it's also true that there are some characteristics and behaviours that, from a probabilistic point of view, will help you to attract more women than others.

SmallSituation6432 · 2024-02-03T12:51:16+00:00

Insecurity is a hell of a drug.

GlobeUnited · 2024-02-03T18:24:05+00:00

Yes.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-02-03T14:04:58+00:00

The RP was just PUA of boomers rebranded by GenX with movie references, and sold to struggling millennials trying to get casual sex in the clubs. After ten years it’s shown it’s lack of success but now you got GenZ wondering why it’s not working on getting them Tinder swipes and IG clout.

Safinated · 2024-02-03T18:40:05+00:00

I don’t think it’s hard to understand

People want everything and are unhappy when they don’t get it. This leads to all sorts of reactions

stats135 · 2024-02-03T15:16:17+00:00

Men are just adapting to the 21st century.

A lot of TRPers would love to have a classic 1.0 marriage if our culture still had women saving themselves for marriage and married young. They want a traditional relationship but realize the decline in modern women makes this impractical. So they settle for the next best thing, to enjoy the decline and take advantage of the sluttiness of modern women. Again said sluttiness is what eroded the value of pursuing a traditional relationship in the first place, but if men can't get rid of it, might as well make the best of it.

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Many_Dig_2782 · 2024-02-03T13:50:52+00:00

How many women have you dated, how many women have you had sex with

wtknight · 2024-02-03T14:08:45+00:00

They talk about loyalty and also they follow pickup-artists and how to attract more and more women, which is just contradictory.

Well yeah. The more women that a man attracts, the more choices he has to choose one to be loyal to. It's not contradictory at all, especially as the ethos today is that one can't decide who will be a suitable partner until one has sex with him or her first.

DarayRaven · 2024-02-03T14:25:26+00:00

What are your thoughts on it?

Game is game

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-02-03T18:53:02+00:00

People do what’s best for themselves. In an environment of fat, disloyal, greedy individuals- be the best you can be, get yours, and enjoy the decline.

AlmostKindaGreat · 2024-02-03T18:53:08+00:00

My goal with consuming content about attracting women was to have options. Also to be able to sustain a woman's interest, if I desired. This is the same whether mainstream advice, RP advice, or less mainstream non-RP advice.

People say things like if you do A you'll only attract X type of women and if you do B you'll only attract Y type of women. I don't believe this. The attraction triggers are the same and rest on the same principles regardless of situation or goals.

A religious man who is looking for a wife at church camp and a swinging bachelor looking for fast sex at the club are both working with the same attraction triggers. If a man who can be successful in one of these contexts decides he wants to change his goals and lifestyle 180 degrees he could easily apply the same principles in the other context and have success.

Being good with women is being good with women. What works works, what doesn't doesn't. Once you can initially attract women, which is what most men struggle with, you can do what you want. You can bang as many hotties as possible or look for that one special woman to spend the rest of your life with. Or do both at the same time.

Barely-moral · 2024-02-03T23:32:49+00:00

If you need a woman who will love you for who you are, show who you really are and dont try to 'attract', or be happy with the uncertain playboy lifestyle that pick-up gane gives you.

I am a psychopath. I am lazy. I am asocial. I am boring.

No woman will love me for who I am because the traits that make who I am are unlovable. So I get results by showing traits that are not who I am. Because that is the smart thing to do if you value results.

They talk about loyalty and also they follow pickup-artists and how to attract more and more women, which is just contradictory. If you need a woman who will love you for who you are, show who you really are and dont try to 'attract', or be happy with the uncertain playboy lifestyle that pick-up gane gives you.

I kinda agree. But lets be honest, loyalty does not have to be born from love. You can get it from other sources. Like rational self interest.

Earning a lot of money and attracting a girl with money, and then calling her a gold digger is like, using a bait to lure in a fish and say, 'you are a bad fish, you like the bait more than me, you'll leave me for a better bait'.

Then it is on me to find someone that can't get better bait. Loyalty born out of rational self interest.

What are your thoughts on it?

Too many emotions and woo woo. Focus on results. Be rational about it.

RodVerga · 2024-02-05T19:15:28+00:00

Understand that your typical pick up artist follower comes from a family with one codependent and one narcissistic parent. He grew up in a way to carry on this codependency which developed him into something you might think about a nice guy or a people pleaser. His personality won’t attract anyone, although everyone told him just to be himself and the right one will come. He has a total lack of boundaries (because he’s scared the girl would leave him) literally anything that makes him attractive and polarizing just doesn’t exist. "Charisma is manipulation, and i'm a good guy women will love me unlike those other men." Not understanding that he’s making a covert contract here which is also manipulative but apparently it’s subconsciously.

At some point he gets feed up with being friendzoned then he finds game. And he’s either smart enough to understand the nuances of game, or he ends up blowing up his life, there’s no guarantee.

Game is just a replacement for his dysfunctional manipulative nice guy behaviors, You become the game, game is relationship skills, every social interaction has game. Game doesn’t stop in a relationship, it actually starts there. Game gives a nice guy the tools to deal with conflict more constructively.

DarayRaven · 2024-02-03T14:21:31+00:00

What are your thoughts on it?

Game is game

stats135 · 2024-02-03T15:16:04+00:00

Men are just adapting to the 21st century.

A lot of TRPers would love to have a classic 1.0 marriage if our culture still had women saving themselves for marriage and married young. They want a traditional relationship but realize the decline in modern women makes this impractical. So they settle for the next best thing, to enjoy the decline and take advantage of the sluttiness of modern women. Again said sluttiness is what eroded the value of pursuing a traditional relationship in the first place, but if men can't get rid of it, might as well make the best of it.

stats135 · 2024-02-03T15:16:04+00:00

Men are just adapting to the 21st century.

A lot of TRPers would love to have a classic 1.0 marriage if our culture still had women saving themselves for marriage and married young. They want a traditional relationship but realize the decline in modern women makes this impractical. So they settle for the next best thing, to enjoy the decline and take advantage of the sluttiness of modern women. Again said sluttiness is what eroded the value of pursuing a traditional relationship in the first place, but if men can't get rid of it, might as well make the best of it.

Title	Games and Goals?
Author	saptarshi656
Upvotes	4
Comments	64
Date	February 3, 2024 12:39 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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