How we can fix the “masculinity” problem

Gravel_Roads · 2019-04-07T15:00:44+00:00

I mean... if we’re making a wish list, why not go a little further and have these magical father figures appear alongside magical mother figures so that little girls and little boys can be raised in an ideal family environment.

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LeJacquelope · 2019-04-07T16:00:43+00:00

Why do this? Why "man up" for the sake of hypergamous entitled women?

sadomasochrist · 2019-04-07T13:57:46+00:00

Your solution is for men to have strong fathers. Yes.

OHG1 · 2019-04-07T13:56:52+00:00

Its not a problem. The men who are weak like red pill men should be weeded out. Leave the women for men with natural game

DebatePony · 2019-04-07T14:08:50+00:00

Who would be doing this training?

reluctantly_red · 2019-04-07T16:23:23+00:00

This has been tried before. I'm seeing images of teenage boys goosestepping in formation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

prettygirl0816 · 2019-04-07T17:31:07+00:00

If attractiveness is ALL that one has to deliver...they don't have much!!!! I would personally admire a less attractive man with brains and not FULL of himself over a socially acceptable (good looking) man any day. Vainness is unattractive...a turn off...and immature.

JezebeltheQueen5656 · 2019-04-07T22:09:16+00:00

Most men are undesirable, bitter twats that are constantly batting out of their leagues and failing miserably. They are entitled to the point of over inflating their own sexual attractiveness and that ultimately leads to the ridiculously high amount of rejection they face on a daily basis.

Women realized that sex alone, or sex with another woman friend is better than dealing with boys and their baggage. Men under 30 are often whiny, needy assholes that are too stupid or just too plain boring to be anything that would interest even an average looking, sane woman. And the statistics reflect this.

It’s why they flock to places like the incel, mgtow and redpill sub to shit on women. Because they’re filled with resentment and bitterness about the many rejections they’ve had to face most of their lives. You can tell that most of them are severely unhappy and some are even on the verge of killing themselves because the truth is that men need women more than women need men. Women are fine with having pet animals and socializing with her friends and family when she’s single, while men on the other hand, become bitter woman-hating failures that further dig the pit and execrable the reason why women didn’t want them in the first place. And then circle jerk about revenge fantasies about women getting older and not having as many options, which most of them know are unlikely to affect most women in a significant way.

Looks like the chickens have finally come home to roost and men are facing the consequences of pissing women off for centuries. Revel in their woman-hate ladies, and enjoy the assurance that every man that insults you and shits on women does so because of his deep seated resentment at the fact that he constantly finds it difficult to get one to pay attention to him.

Cheers!

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-04-07T14:00:22+00:00

whos "We"?

Here4thebeer3232 · 2019-04-07T14:41:03+00:00

The only masculinity problem is the men who cannot or refuse to adapt to a changing world, and instead cling to antiquated ideals, forever frustrated and confused that those ideals and traits are no longer benefical. Adapt or die. And too many men refuse to adapt.

Ex: Physical strength is fundamentally irrelevant in the age of machines and automation. Looking strong is a nice perk, but it is window dressing only. A well trained and educated mind is far more valuable in todays world than a strong body, and lasts longer to.

Electra_Cute · 2019-04-07T14:48:14+00:00

Probably try to get rid of concepts of masculine/feminine so people do not feel pressured into acting a certain way because of some cultural norm, this probably would not happen.

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nemma88 · 2019-04-07T15:21:48+00:00

Disaster strikes? What disaster exactly you thinking of?

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-04-08T02:51:56+00:00

Strong male role models+education

yasee · 2019-04-07T14:11:33+00:00

Can you first define this problem

Willow-girl · 2019-04-07T14:51:17+00:00

The only way to fix this problem is to shut down lefties and go back to the industry age. Neither of those things are going to happen which means men are going to be fucked for generations to come. As we can't teach boys how to be men as everything that is considered to be manly is now considered to be bad/toxic/evil/etc. This is besides the fact lefties will do everything to fight this as they don't want men's issues to be address as to them it takes away from women, minorities and LGBTQ folk, as to lefties its a zero sum game.

abaxeron · 2019-04-07T15:15:38+00:00

Segregated locations. The only "masculinity" problem I see is that as soon as men fulfill the next insane expectation of women, women come up with a new one. Both sexes should have an opportunity to experience the (small-scale) world without the opposite sex, and when we get people who build entire careers milking the gender divide, it's nice to have a door to show them: "your utopia is a two-hour bus ride away. Either go there, or shut up."

Million-Suns · 2019-04-07T17:12:46+00:00

Translation: how can we make men more docile so they can slave away more smoothly for the society?

The only solution is to reduce their number significantly. They now have to compete with women in the workforce, and as far as college applications, they are already disadvantaged, and since their appeal to the opposite sex, aka resources are dwindling, that makes a lot of frustrated and angry men.

You don't want that in a society giving special care to children and their direct care takers, women.

That's the only solution I see for you guys who always seem to preach for the good of the society above the good of the human beings.

daveofmars · 2019-04-07T18:41:44+00:00

That's what we used to do.

We encouraged boys to go into sports, but then the girls wanted to play, and the parents wanted coed teams, and the boys roughhoused too much, and the girls were at a disadvantage, so school admins put in special rules to make it fair and safe, which made the games boring for boys and they could no longer be what they were.

Boys used to learn conflict resolution their own way, which involved physical violence from time to time, because boys and men are the sex that evolved to act out violence and know its language, but school administrators couldn't have that so now every student has to go to the teacher if they want to resolve the smallest problem.

All the things that make boys into men typically occur naturally during their teenager years if you just leave them alone - taking risks, getting in a few fights, being goofy and learning to talk to girls. But I feel as if the guidance we give boys attempts to make them more docile for the classroom, controllable for the teacher, and nonthreatening for the girls. Fixing the masculinity problem just involves rejecting the status quo.

iceicle999 · 2019-04-07T20:00:40+00:00

So, in other words, how can we make young men more appealing to young women. Plenty of young males have it very easy and don't have to work for jack shit and they still get girls/women, respect and all that. One day people will have to accept that there will always be a leftover dump of single women and trying to plot and plan how to get young men to "man up" for them is only focusing on half the issue.

[deleted] · 2019-04-07T22:24:23+00:00

I think we need to create organizations dedicated to young men and women on their natural strengths and help them navigate the world as young men and women. Led by members of the community that are in healthy marriages or that are wise and have experience they can pass on.

Title	How we can fix the “masculinity” problem
Author	Shadow_Of_
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Comments	190
Date	April 7, 2019 1:21 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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