Nonverbal communication

future_space_boobs · 2016-07-28T16:45:58+00:00

Vitally important. But your examples aren't 'non-verbal communication.' non-verbal communication is like... eyeing somebody up and down, or turning your body to face someone you're attracted to, or slouching when you don't feel confident, or not returning a text.

'Not putting pussy on a pedestal,' per your example, is a state of mind that is indicated both non-verbally and verbally. I think you're confusing non-verbal communication with internal dialogue.

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citrusdrink76 · 2016-07-28T20:19:20+00:00

Does BP believe in nonverbal communication?

I assume so. Nonverbal communication is a thing, I don't see how anyone could get through each day without it.

How often do you utilize it?

A lot.

Can overt communication take the place of non-verbal communication?

Yes, when appropriate (i.e. when there has been a misunderstanding or there's a complex issue that needs sorting out etc.).

Can it ever be counter-productive to talk about things rather than expressing yourself through actions (actions speak louder than words)?

Sure. It's better to just push my body back against my bf than it is to say "yes. the way your are leaning against me and putting your hands on me is very nice. please continue to do this whilst I reciprocate and we eventually engage in sexual intercourse." I think my bf would find that weird and off-putting.

Do you think there is a big disparity in the way each pill views non-verbal communication?

There might be. I often hear complaints here about communication and how it's bullshit and it never works and I always think it's not the communication that's the weak point, it's the fact that you fucking suck at communicating. There's one person on PPD in particular who does this a lot and who is literally one of the worst communicators I have ever come across. 'Communicating' successfully means more than telling someone else what you think/feel and then expecting them to agree with you because you have verbalized it. Good communicators listen, as well. And, shit, listening is an important skill and a loooooot of people don't have it.

shoup88 · 2016-07-28T20:33:29+00:00

Nonverbal communication is very important. Body language, physical touch, eye contact - these all play a big role in how people interact. I don't believe that these can be replaced by overt communication.

Can it ever be counter-productive to talk about things rather than expressing yourself through actions (actions speak louder than words)?

Of course. Simple gestures can have a bigger impact than words. And some problems require action - apologizing for something is meaningless if you don't make any changes. Words can be too easily misconstrued when emotions are running high. Sometimes it's better to cool off before you talk.

Do you think there is a big disparity in the way each pill views non-verbal communication?

I think that both pills encourage nonverbal communication. The cliched advice of "just be confident" doesn't just refer to language and conversation. It's also about making eye contact, smiling, holding your head up. "Just be yourself" means showing others that you're comfortable with your hobbies and interests, and aren't ashamed of who you are.

I do think the pills differ in that red pill is much more specific when it comes to advice. Blue pill is a lot more broad.

midnightvulpine · 2016-07-28T21:47:36+00:00

Non verbal communication is us d by everyone, all the time. How you walk, how you sit, your expressions, everything is a potential window into your current mood. This goes for men and women. We take cues instinctively all the time, without even thinking about it.

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Entropy-7 · 2016-07-28T19:00:42+00:00

My take on it is that a lot of bloopers just zen things and somehow thing it is all obvious and natural. One had a painfully analytical approach, which oddly was to explain his intuitive approach.

I tend to believe in actions not words, however, if you choose your words carefully, that can be flipped.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2016-07-28T20:52:35+00:00

I can't really control my face and other non-verbal cues (something which pisses off my mom a lot), so to be frank, I just ignore this side of human existence unless I myself notice something from other people.

Subway_Bernie_Goetz · 2016-07-29T00:38:38+00:00

It can be counter-productive to talk about things when the thing is too hurtful or risky to be honest about. For instance, if your wife doesn't want to have sex very much and the reason is because she simply isn't sexually attracted to you, is she really going to say that? Or is it going to be, "well, you should make me feel loved more by doing thoughtful things like giving flowers and doing chores around the house and giving me foot massages and then I'll magically feel like having sex with you." Verbal communication would just make you more confused in a situation like that.

The nonverbal communication way to do it would be to observe her and do the math: Is this how women act towards their men when their men do not give them enough Hallmark cards? Or is this how women act towards their men when there is simply no sexual attraction? What is her behavior communicating?

lollygagyo · 2016-07-29T04:42:09+00:00

No. I think non-verbal communication is probably more important to blues, who seem to be more intuitive thinkers, on the whole, tbh.

But it's definitely important to everyone.

RareBlur · 2016-07-29T07:15:20+00:00

Dread Game and "not putting the pussy on a pedestal" does not really communicate a person's own self-worth. First off, those are more just concepts than forms of communication. Secondly, using those tactics is more like putting others down than lifting themselves up so it doesn't really demonstrate self-worth in fact it hints (maybe non-verbally) at a lack of self worth.

Non-verbal is more like standing with your arms crossed signals that you are closed to the opinions or topics being expressed.

duckyhunter · 2016-07-28T19:54:35+00:00

I view non-verbal communication like I view women: for shitty people.

Say what you mean. I love blowing people up that try to communicate with their eyes.

Title	Nonverbal communication
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Date	July 28, 2016 4:40 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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