Porn use may not be causing erectile dysfunction

NalkaNalka · 2018-04-28T02:56:50+00:00

Personally I don't really have a strong position on porn ether way.

That said, the guy writing the article that OP links to is ether a crook or a moron and considering his position I doubt he is a moron.

First he throws out a huge chunk of the data and decides to only use 3 particular studies for his analysis. That can be a legitimate move to drown out some noise and only focus on the "best data" but in this case we will soon see why it's not the case.

First study 1992: "asked whether they’d had trouble maintaining or achieving an erection any time in the last year"

Modern study 2012: "asked whether they’d had trouble getting or keeping an erection for a period of three or more months during the last year"

That is not comparing apples to oranges, that is comparing apples to a jumbojet.

Oh and it's from a different country to boot. And it also doesn't even specify the same age ranges.

Next he goes on to conclude:

"Although these data were collected in different Western countries and the question wording differed, it’s striking how similar the figures are considering that the data were collected 20 years apart. This suggests that perhaps rates of ED aren’t on the rise among young men after all. "

No dumbass, the questions are not "worded differently", they are completely different questions. One asked whether over the course of the last year at any point did you have trouble getting it up. (so includes when you were drunk, sick, just wanked three times in a row, whatever) And the other asked whether you had a persistent problem of erectile dysfunction over a period of three months or more.

That is buzzfeed level, not science.

Then he compounds on the hilarity by bringing up his third study:

2009: "asked whether they’d experienced any erectile difficulties the last time they had sex"

"last time they had sex" <---->"ever had in the last year"

I don't even have to mock that one. It does the job itself.

As a final note that study is from 2009, that is almost 10 years ago, before the ubiquitous availability of free high quality porn piped directly into everyone's bedroom.

That is like asking "gee I wonder what the effect of everyone using touch screen fones on carpel tunnel incidence is? then using a study from 2005 when most people did not have touch screen fones to base your study on.

I think the problem is these days most people don't read critically nor think for themselves. They just absorb anything from someone dressed in a lab coat that tells them what they want to hear.

And again I don't care about porn, it's just that what passes for "science" these days pisses me the fuck off.

FairlyNaive · 2018-04-28T10:33:41+00:00

As a guy who got rid of his erectile problems by using nofap i have to disagree.

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-04-28T02:59:31+00:00

I think it causes you to be lazy and women end up not comparing to porn. Unless you death grip the poor guy, I don’t think there are performance aspects related to its usage.

MrButtholePoopy · 2018-04-28T02:49:51+00:00

porn use no, porn overuse/abuse and addiction. yes. i think anyone think we can all agree the guy who watches a vid once a week and jerks off isn't likely to experience any porn related issues. however the dude who watches videos and jerks off everyday? hmm probably. besides the common sense factor. this article doesn't actually disprove anything it simply opens the conversation with a clear lack of evidence either way.

Arobin08 · 2018-04-28T02:26:12+00:00

I dunno, Im otherwise healthy and in my 20s and just now getting over ed after forcing myself to seriously cut down on porn

sublimemongrel · 2018-04-28T02:02:31+00:00

What evidence is there that porn use is causing this in the first place?

squidracer · 2018-04-28T06:01:31+00:00

ED is mostly caused by obesity and hormone inbalance. Studies clearly show that testosterone levels have went down over generations.

JTRonald · 2018-04-28T12:04:45+00:00

Not true, most people who stop porn for very long period have much higher arousal, and easier erection.

You know anti porn is not just about "we don't like porn this degrade woman", it's just objectively fucking up your brain, with an overdose of stimulation.

MirrorMirror_OTW · 2018-04-28T01:57:57+00:00

I was under the impression that issues with erectile dysfunction were mostly caused by heart problems stemming from obesity.

EsauTheRed · 2018-04-28T14:51:37+00:00

Porn use hasn't caused me erectile dysfunction but it has desensitized me

80% of the time it takes me at least 1 hour to cum

poppy_blu · 2018-04-28T12:40:55+00:00

Apparently correlation only implies causation when it supports RP pet theories.

"Frequent porn consumption and likelihood of experiencing ED are correlated"

Bullshit!

"Women having a high number of sexual partners and divorce rates are correlated"

AWALT!

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WolfgangBreitweit · 2018-04-29T10:33:03+00:00

Erectile dysfunction without medical/physical reason is a warning sign from your guts that you are about to fuck a girl you shouldn’t be with. Such women are either covert psychos or are using sex as a deception technique and are not very good in lying. Porn isn’t the reason. Your dick knows very good if you are with a good or bad woman. Don’t let you talk into feminist crap. They have no clue about men whatsoever.

statsfodder · 2018-04-28T04:53:26+00:00

This is a myth used to shame men.. one of the many

justtypingcuz · 2018-04-28T02:05:53+00:00

I'm a pornography addict like xxxtentacion. Never had trouble getting it up.

Only con of porn is having to go back to real life after where most bitches are ugly and fat and bad at sex.

PhucCheet · 2018-05-02T19:21:10+00:00

Mods, please untag this as "science". There is no real science behind it. It's fake news. At best, it's CMV.

No real scientific experiment was done looking at effects of porn use on controlled groups of people. The article compares self-reported survey data from DIFFERENT MEN in DIFFERENT COUNTRIES using DIFFERENT CRITERIA for erectile dysfunction. Then they assume any differences over time would have been due to porn use, even though porn use isn't the only thing that changed. In fact, they make no effort to even compare frequency or intensity of porn use in the different groups. Nothing about porn is measured at all. A lack of any big change in survey answers about very different things unrelated to porn is used to argue porn does not cause ED. That's not how science works. This is not only pseudo-science but has no credibility whatsoever.

Title	Porn use may not be causing erectile dysfunction
Author	BiggestBoop
Upvotes	16
Comments	142
Date	April 28, 2018 1:51 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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