What even is status?

Madness20 · 2018-05-26T12:49:02+00:00

Status is basically an analogy to social hierarchical position of a person in the metas defined by society.

Positions of power, fame, money, beauty, and all other sorts of things that humans compete for, define hierarchies between competitors, and having "status" is basically being in a privileged position in the hierarchy of status within the context. Naturally, public opinion of someone, makes for a good part of his "status".

The perception people have of your "status" is completelly determinant on how they act about you, and you're naturally affected by it as well.

The status/success you have in some areas increase your confidence in them, and there's several ways your increased confidence is displayed and perceived by others.

So confidence in some area is usually one of many natural expression of a person's high performance in an area, therefore perceived status by others in that area.

So in summary, status in itself is all about the outside perception and how people end up treating you because of it.

reluctantly_red · 2018-05-26T10:39:36+00:00

High status is being able to walk right past the person checking receipts at the Walmart exit and no one says or does shit. :)

Cho_Assmilk · 2018-05-26T07:51:16+00:00

Say you agree to go on a date with a guy. You met him at your friends party last weekend. He was pretty chill. He socialized with everyone and everyone seemed to be interested in what he had to say. As the night went on, he seemed to be interested in you a lot, so you gave him your number. You rarely give your number out, but he just seemed to make you want to.

He meets you out front of your apartment building. You're chatting with your friend and as soon as he shows up, your friends tone of voice changes. You can tell she thinks he's hot. As you guys walk to the bar down the street for a drink, he runs into a couple guys he works with. Immediately they're excited to see him. He introduces you to them and you chat for a minute. When you look at these guys, you can tell they have money. They flaunt it, while he seems kind of reserved in a classy way.

As you continue the venture towards your destination, he sees a women struggling to get her car keys out cause her hands are full of groceries. He calmly says "let me help". She looks back, once she sees who he is, she passes him her bags with a smile and gets into her car. She wasn't intimidated or creeped out at all because this guys seemed to have it.

You arrive at the bar and grab a seat at one of those little tables that hardly have any room and the seats are so high you don't know why every bar seems to want these. You sit down and 2 drinks show up at the table and the server says "they're on the house". He gives a smile and a gesture to the bartender. Probably the owner.

As your night progresses, some asshat bumps into you, half spilling your drink on the table. The guy turns around as if he isn't going to give a fuck, but he locks eyes with your date. 2 minutes later, he shows up with a new drink and apologizes for spilling your other one. Your date asks his name, yous exchange small talk for a couple minutes and the guy walks away like he just talked to a celebrity.

On the walk home, he gets a phone call. From what you can hear, you know someone fucked up badly. Instead of getting mad, he motivates the person on the other end with true leadership. This is where you can tell he is high up in whatever profession he does. Come to think of it, he never even mentioned what he does. Nor did you think to ask.

When you get back to your apartment, he kisses your hand, thanks you for the great evening, wishes you good night and starts to walk away. Your loins feel like you just did the splits on an open flame you're so fired up. You say "hey, wanna come up for a night cap?"

The next morning as you lay in bed and watch this guy who seems like he's straight out of a romance movie get dressed, you realize what status is.

quicklogaccount · 2018-05-26T12:23:30+00:00

Mmmm. I guess you're seeing something wrong there. Status is attractive in MEN, for women.

It is the MEASUREMENT of how much the man's peers and society will aid and support him in caring for her and her infants, or even support her alone for that end if he does not commit, because her infants are also his.

DebatePony · 2018-05-26T14:33:39+00:00

Status is where one fits into the social hierarchy. For example, you live in a city, do you have more or less status as the homeless person down the street? More or less than those people living in the buildings with those door opener guys?

TheGreasyPole · 2018-05-26T19:40:33+00:00

TRP considers how their place in the SMP effects their "status".

This is the wrong way round. Status (for men) affects their position in the SMP.... their position in the SMP does not affect their status.

How do you know you have a high or low status?

Do you have a large circle of friends who look up to you ? do you have a job society treats with respect (doctor?) or one that society treats as low status (burger flipper?). Do you have high educational attainment ? How much do you earn ? Do you display the markers of status (in the west, say, wearing suits) or the markers of low status (a dingy old T-Shirt and Cargo shorts) ? Do you engage in high status hobbies (Yacht racing?) or low status hobbies (D&D and Vidya?) ?

These kinds of things are what affects if you're viewed as having status or not.

What's are the downsides to having a low status?

Women of any status level above your own will be far less interested in you, and you'll restrict your attractiveness to any woman who isn't lower than you status wise.

Men will also treat you differently, you'll be lower in the male dominance hierarchy. But, for the discussion round here, the biggest effect is with the women.

How does one's life improve when they have a high status?

You'll generally be earning a lot more. Males will tend to respect and defer to you more. Females will be attracted to you more.

Who can one expect will be responding to their status level? For example, will a low status effect one's ability to get a job?

Not directly... BUt the kinds of things that make you low status (not having graduated high school) will also mean you're restricted in the job market and are extremely unlikely to get a high status job as a result, further entrenching your low status.

Is status anything outside of social interactions?

No, status is something that is a result of social interactions and the human tendency to build hierarchies.

If you're alone on a desert island and never meet another human, you have no status. High or Low.

Status is a result of interaction with other humans.

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Workaholico · 2018-05-26T16:44:29+00:00

I define status as: "the relative value and esteem someone receives in a society to other individuals of the same society"

AloneOnTheStrange · 2018-05-26T17:25:10+00:00

Status is about all the things that you have that sets you apart from everyone else. Things that are exclusive. Things that people envy. The status that makes you attractive to women are the things that she will benefit from by association with you.

People usually associate status with social class. They think more money = more status. But really there's so much more to it than that. Status is constantly given off in tells. So many relatively minor things contribute to status, even among the middle class. Knowing the bouncers at clubs. Playing in a band in bars. Traveling. Having drug connections. Playing sports professionally. Having friends who always want you around.

A lot of people scoff at that. They think it's petty and childish to care about those things. But think about all the popular people you know. Think of the guys that the girls love to be around, especially those that aren't terribly physically attractive. Think of all the little exclusive things they have about them. All the things they can do, because of their social status, that most others can't. If you're really trying, then odds are you can come up with a pretty long list.

blackedoutfast · 2018-05-26T20:41:32+00:00

social status is your relative position in the social hierarchy of some particular group of people. that group could be a small group of friends, all the people at a bar or party, all the coworkers at one company or in one department of a company, the people who live in a particular neighborhood, the people who live in one city, or even everyone on Earth. anytime you have a group of people who are interacting with each other, a hierachy will naturally form within that group.

How do you know you have a high or low status? What's are the downsides to having a low status? How does one's life improve when they have a high status?

are you treated well by others in the group? do they respect/defer to you? do people try to get closer and try to ingratiate themselves with you? do you get special treatment or are you given things for free? those are signs of having high status

or are you ignored or treated badly? are you always the butt of jokes? do people "forget" to invite you or leave you off group texts? do they assume bad things about you? have you ever been called "creepy" or "weird" or "loser" ? those are signs of low status

Who can one expect will be responding to their status level?

everyone. people are highly attuned to figuring out the status of other people, but it's mostly subconscious. if you meet a group of people and there's one particular person who seems to be the leader and everyone is especially nice to him and laughing at all his jokes and he seems confident and self-assured, you will probably feel like he is cool and funny and all that too.

or if you go to a bar and most people seem to be laughing and having fun, but there's one person sitting by themselves looking down. and the other people are all either pointedly ignoring him or saying that he is "creepy" or weird, you're probably also going to naturally feel that he does seem creepy or weird.

For example, will a low status effect one's ability to get a job?

even if people aren't part of a particular group, they can still pick up on the signs of a person who generally has high or low status. a person who has high status will tend to act more confidently, have a more positive view of themselves, and more likely assume they will be treated well. a person who has low status will be less confident and sure of themselves, will be more negative and assume the worst, etc.

so if you walk into an interview room with a person who has never met you, they're going to pick up on all these things. and they'll naturally tend to have a much better opinion of the high status person. this can have a huge effect and is often more important than a person's actual qualifications.

Is status anything outside of social interactions?

almost everything we do involves social interaction.

Willow-girl · 2018-05-27T00:37:17+00:00

Status is mostly about outward appearances and is not a good indicator of character. Someone who appears to be doing well in life may have been born on third base, so to speak, and may not actually have much in the way of grit, determination and other valuable qualities. Beware.

newName543456 · 2018-05-27T22:13:01+00:00

In general, having a lot of value making other people want to associate with you.

Title	What even is status?
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Date	May 26, 2018 6:09 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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