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[–]Mimoxs28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link
Like the "I'm not like the other girls!" Mentality, but instead of in a teenager it's in an adult woman.
Virtue signaling, tearing down other women or promoting things directly contrary to the best interest of women as a whole, all for male attention.
"I'm a woman and I'm not like those mean harpy feminists I'm a good woman!"
"B-but men have issues too! Look at me I'm a woman who acknowledges men have issues! They're so important that I'm bringing it up at the first notion of women's issues!"
"I'm not like those prudish women who won't have sex whenever you want it and won't do things that hurt them! Those anti porn women are just prudes :)"
Ultimately they make themselves miserable. Because the whole goal is male approval, acceptance, attention, etc. They think men will appreciate it but in reality it's a big sign stuck to their forehead saying "abuse me".
[–]loke2dabrain🕶 🥃14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So a female simp basically
[–]87AudreyHorne1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly that
[–]gaylord_fag_24 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
On the not like other girls subreddits they are always saying pick mes slut shame and act like they are not like other girls by not being whores.
[–]indaknffr0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So your definition is basically a woman that doesn't subscribe to your feminist agenda? A woman can't have issues with modern feminism and believe it's bad for everyone? Men's issues are constantly talked about? Feminists are not the ones talking about sexual liberation and anti-slutshaming while being hypocrites and shaming men and women's sexuality? Ironically, the main reason FDSers can't find commitment is because they're not doing enough of these very things you're accusing pickmes of doing.
[–]Sir_manalot-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
They think men will appreciate it but in reality it's a big sign stuck to their forehead saying "abuse me".
Lol, that just means she likes abusive men.
Good men are all over the place, they are just not attractive because they are too boring though.
[–]Mimoxs14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
No, it means that abusive people are naturally attracted to doormat personalities. Same goes for manipulative women, they're attracted to men they can suck money and resources out of and the men will keep giving bc he's a doormat
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
abusive people are naturally attracted to doormat personalities.
This is correct.
That being said, the girl with the doormat personality actually has to pick the abusive asshole as a partner before she has an abusive asshole as a partner.
Chances are, the girl with the doormat personality had more than just abusive assholes interested in her.
[–]Mimoxs7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Usually girls with doormat personalities are that way from very early on, due to the way they're raises or other childhood factors such as abusive backgrounds. The men that will be the most attracted will pursue her hard, and it will be the majority of her choices. So while the normal confident girl may have 20% of her options being abusers, this girl may have about 70% of her options be these types. They will pursue the hardest, thereby being noticed, putting in the most effort.
When someone is constantly showing you attention, being extremely sweet and nice, getting you gifts all the time etc more so than anyone else, it only makes sense that a person will be most likely to pick that person who stands out the most, especially since they have not revealed their abusive nature.
It is also common for these types of men to psychologically manipulate, learn a girl's psychology and play it to their advantage, etc. These types of men will go to extreme lengths to manipulate and deceive young girls.
So it's a lot more than just "muh awalt all women like abusers"
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I can excuse that behavior from a child or an adolescent. I can't excuse that behavior from an adult. An adult is supposed to be fully responsible for the choices they make.
Yes. It is more than just that because human relationships are complex. That being said if the woman is an adult, she is responsible for the man she picks as her partner.
Yes, the same goes for men picking the wrong women. With the difference that men have less options.
[–]SplushkaMcOwlFace2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Pickme raised the way to choose abusive men. They think abuse is love. When they gain life experience they might realise it's all wrong, go to therapy and try to fix it. it might happen after very damaging abusive relationships but at the young age they have very little chance to have healthy relationships.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Pickme raised the way to choose abusive men.
Maybe some of them. But lets say they are all raised to think that abuse is love.
I don't care. At some point I have to make a human responsible for the choices they make. I decide to draw the line at 18 years of age.
From that point onwards, you are responsible for your decisions. No matter how you were raised.
[–]jigglypuff__04 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
But that’s why being a pick me is mocked?
Plus, then men they go with are typically abusive at worst, and “will take you for granted and use you” at best.
Being a pick me means the woman has no discernment. Any male attention is good attention. Girls who project this energy get with shit men. Your criticism is why other women criticize them as well. But due to their low self esteem, they make poor choices in male partners.
It’s low effort to get with a shitty guy. Believe it or not, a lot of women go for the low hanging fruit because they’re desperate for love. Then they get abused and have no idea why. Hence the negative connotation of being a “pick me.”
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough.
Being a pick me means the woman has no discernment.
I didn't mention that on my definition but if that is part of the definition then I can understand why being a pick me would be bad.
[–]DeseretRainFangirl3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s a pretty low age to draw the line, the human brain doesn’t finish developing until around age 25. Even the body doesn’t finish developing until around age 20, 18 year olds are still adolescents. It’s actually kind of weird that society even considers adolescent teens to be adults, they’re not mentally or physically adults from a scientific perspective.
[–]SplushkaMcOwlFace0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Exactly It's very unfortunate for a woman to be a Pickme. They don't only have unhappy relationships but are also blamed for it. That's why it's important to educate young girls and help them to detect this issue.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Sure. Lack of standards and vetting is a bad thing.
[–]Mimoxs2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's not really a matter of excusing behavior from the victim... It's that the abusers themselves go out of their way to take often very smart and convincing measures to achieve things.
It's often not just the victim either - many times, people are shocked to find out about a specific person because the man had everyone fooled, because he's just that good of an actor/deceiver. If everyone is fooled by someone, it's not the fault of the individual for thinking they were a good person when even their close friends and family thought the same. These are also other adults.
You have men who go to the extent of creating believable stories and crafting false evidence, manipulating the people around the girl as well as the girl herself (once again, a person who can fool and manipulate many), even having other people he knows help him convince the girl of a lie, etc. Some people are just that good at being deceivers and it's no individual's fault for falling for a lie when that lie is believed by many.
Also some people who are victims have unique circumstances rendering them unable to distinguish important things that would help them spot an abuser.
[–]gaylord_fag_20 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Like what?
[–]Mimoxs2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Most forms of autism or severe personality disorders.
These individuals can have fully developed parts of the brain regarding intellectual capacity, but have underdeveloped or not fully functioning portions controlling aspects like socialization, decision making capacity, and emotional capacity, which renders them to essentially be stuck with the social and emotional capacity of a much younger person.
This has in the past presented great legal issues, especially regarding mistakes at work, and consent laws - there are a lot of people who argue that these individuals cannot give consent, which obviously would be a huge deal legally. But essentially, in a court of law, they take into consideration the person's mental capabilities, and often these individuals are ruled as unable to fully process their own actions and consequences.
[–]gaylord_fag_20 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish I knew how to put up enough red flags that I have severe autism so someone will make me their sex slave already.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Excellence is rare. A master manipulator is as rare as a master in any other skill.
Most manipulators are mediocre in the same way most people are mediocre in every skill.
If everyone is fooled by someone, it's not the fault of the individual for thinking they were a good person
It is never their fault for being decieved. But it was always their responsability to avoid being decieved.
I am not talking about being at fault. I am talking about being responsible.
Still their responsability. Even if their unique circumstances were really bad. If you are an adult, you are responsible for your choices. Even if you are not at fault, even if your circumstances suck.
[–]Mimoxs3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, responsibility is fine for the most part. The issue becomes, would a child also be responsible? Because some of the aforementioned circumstances may essentially render someone in the same social/emotional capacity as a child, but who are otherwise functioning adults.
Responsibility is fine, so long as you hold the abuser responsible for their actions as well. Idk about you personally, it's just a trend that when people emphasize the responsibility of the victim, they tend to also diminish the responsibility of the abuser. It's not always the case, it just tends to be the same people that "well it was the girl's responsibility to not be abducted off the street and raped so we can't punish the men for taking the opportunity" types.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"well it was the girl's responsibility to not be abducted off the street and raped so we can't punish the men for taking the opportunity"
That is both repulsive and retarded.
The criminal should rot in jail. The woman should learn to take care of herself.
[–]Sir_manalot-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The issue is that women are the ones who ultimately say yes or no.
So even if abusers prefer doormats, she needs to say yes to him and reject several non-abusive men to get into that situation.
[–]Mimoxs2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Similarly to what I said to the other person who replied with that, it's not always that simple. Many times these men will go to great lengths to make sure they are chosen, very deceitful methods that, in normal scenarios, would be things women should go for. Abusive men are never abusive on the front. They wait until they're safe to become abusive.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, a "pick me" is a woman that goes to extreme lenghts to obtain male attention and has no problem running over other women or putting herself second as long as she is getting male attention.
[–]Sir_manalot5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So basically a simp
[–]loke2dabrain🕶 🥃4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol just wrote this as a reply to someone else.
We should just use simp for both sexes to avoid the confusion.
[–]Barely-moralMostly red though. Still a were-seal.2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes. Except the simp gets nothing in return for his simping.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh he gets taken advantage of just as pick mes do. Both people might get some of the attention they seek as they are being manipulated.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with you.
Curiously enough once I commented that a pickme is the female version of a simp, and I got a number of comments disagreeing with me but not making any sense (to me).
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Basically the female version of a simp.
[–]Sewud6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Originally, it's a girl who puts down other women publicly to make herself look better to men.
Example: "You hoes seriously out there clubbing every night expecting a guy to wife you up? I'm in bed by nine to wake up to cook breakfast for my boo."
But then it can also include generic bragging on social media about being a good girlfriend.
Example: "Just got my bae a PlayStation 5 so he doesn't get bored during the confinement."
But then it also means a woman who does too much, has too little standards, usually for a mediocre boyfriend who brings nothing in return.
Example: "Why is she with that guy? She's gorgeous and he's a fat slob." "She's a pickme. For their first date he suggested Netflix and chill and she paid for the takeout. Now she drives to his place whenever he wants sex. She doesn't realize there would be tons of better guys willing to date her. She thinks she always has to do more to please this loser."
[–]TheBookOfSeilRed blood, blue balls and purple heart4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If that's true, then I have a hard time believing that's actually true. I've NEVER seen a woman do anything for someone's attention. Ever.
Soooo... you're a blind man?
Women do things for attention all the time. There's an entire range of attention-seeking behavior from subtle to overt. You just have to know what you're looking at. It's entirely possible that you've seen some overt behavior and not even recognized it as overt behavior.
Anyway, to answer your post question, a "pick me" is a woman who makes pretty extreme efforts to get attention from men and be chosen because guys aren't approaching or flirting with them. Therefore, they have to act more obvious about their own interests to attract attention from men.
[–]richlad0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wonder if he's been on Instagram and Twitch.
[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've NEVER seen a woman do anything for someone's attention.
You aren't very observant I'm guessing. Even when its not directed at you, you can see it, often easier.
[–]harleyhoney224 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
?? what planet are you living on? There’s literally so many pickme’s in the world. To me a pick me is a woman who will disregard the well-being and safety of her own children in order to get a boyfriend, a woman who will ignore a boyfriend’s nazism or homophobia or misogyny, a woman who doesn’t have any morals or values or empathy for others all in the pursuit of male attention
I swear that this is like the majority of men for women.
Pick-me, simps, thirsty men, they all need a slap in the face.
[–]dylang92Not Good Enough For Casual Sex5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I guess a pickme (the base version anyway) is a woman who goes to extreme lengths to gain male attention. She will do his chores, consistently cook or bake for him, try sexual things she has no interest in or desire to do for him, willing to be in a FWB situation but wanting an LTR but holding on because no attention is worse. In fact I don’t even think there’s a friendship, their entire relationship is “ you up?” texts at 2am. Basically being willing to serve him or degrade herself in whatever way to get a crumb of his attention, so a female simp, without the benefit of sex because simps don’t get pussy. By all means there’s nothing wrong with doing all I mentioned above, but there has to be reciprocation, PickMes do it in the hopes of reciprocation and even without it continue to do so.
However I have notice the title thrown around by other women to bash women for doing, well, anything that isn’t the mainstream view. If you critique the actions of a woman at all, you are a pickme. One time I saw a girl defend that wearing a crop top and shorts where her ass can be seen was fine in the gym and men should just keep their eyes down, saying she needed to wear these clothes because that’s the only way she could work out. A girl commented and said she wears leggings and a loose hoodie or shirt and she also sweats and works out well, and every woman just screamed “PICKME BITCH”. She never said anything to do with men, she just said that she didn’t have to wear those clothes. If you bash OnlyFans, you’re a pickme. If you even kind of think that men aren’t bad, you’re a pickme. It has lost its meaning somewhere
[–]DeseretRainFangirl2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kind of like how a lot of people will use “simp” against any guy who is nice to a woman for any reason, or who agrees with a woman’s opinion in an online argument.
[–]dylang92Not Good Enough For Casual Sex1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely. The internet believes that if you agree with a woman or somewhat back her up, you gotta also be getting pussy or looking to get pussy. Don’t get me wrong, I hate whiteknights who jump in always and don’t let a woman argue for herself or try to defend herself at all, but if it’s just one guy critiquing a woman she doesn’t need 5 or 6 guys defending her ass and going to bat for her
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Someone who is a slave to the male imperative. Women who put men's needs above their own hoping to impress a man only to often end up being used.
Examples:
Women who have casual sex without gaining anything from it.
Women who want to control their hypergamy and shame other women for not being "chaste".
Women who hate other women and think men are better than women.
[–]xinf3ct3dPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's be honest, hypergamy is very risky.
The amount of women who can actively practice hypergamy is very low, probably similar to the amount of men who can universally be considered "high value".
If you are a woman who seeks stability, hypergamy will not serve you well.
Also, it is quite optimistic to think a better man than your previous one will be faithful.
For both sexes hypergamy is a bad idea unless you are attractive enough and ruthless.
[–]jocelynfloresLillthOfBabylon's Bitch0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Lmao what is there to gain from casual sex outside of pleasure?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Men usually gain more pleasure than women. Studies show that straight men get the most orgasms, surpassing even the gays. Straight women get the FEWEST orgasms.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0939-z
Casual sex is about a man's pleasure, 90% of the time
[–]heather76f1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If a woman knew straight up that the person she is about to sleep with casually is not capable of giving her an orgasm then she wouldn’t do it....unless she is a Pickme and only doing it to please a man. If she knew beforehand that she wasn’t going to enjoy it, then she would rather go home and please herself. Just like you wouldn’t bother going to a restaurant when you know the food is terrible.
I’ve seen like a million posts on Reddit by women talking about how their male partner never gives them an orgasm, never goes down on her or does any foreplay, never even attempts to make her enjoy it but just basically sticks it in and uses her body to get off, often even does stuff that is painful or degrading that she doesn’t enjoy at all, but they still stay with the guy and keep sleeping with him. It doesn’t seem like that’s very uncommon at all.
[–]heather76f3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Classic Pick me behaviour. Men do it too. I work in a hardware store, I am constantly hearing men complain that their wives won’t put out. I really want to tell them that their wife won’t put out because he doesn’t make her orgasm. There’s nothing in it for her, so it becomes a chore.
[–]Sir_manalot-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Which is why women love doing it.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They don't. Studies show that women are more likely than men to regret casual sex.
[–]TheBookOfSeilRed blood, blue balls and purple heart1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only when the plans didn't turn out the way that they had hoped (potential relationship with the ONS). Let's not pretend that women don't use sex as a bargaining chip to accomplish their own goals, because we know that they do.
Edit: and that includes withholding it as well.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then they should stop doing it then.
[–]jocelynfloresLillthOfBabylon's Bitch-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Okay but does a woman still not get any? If not they should stop seeing thay guy
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Women usually have casual sex because they're pressured into it or because they hope they will someone manage to lock the man down.
I agree that women should stop having casual sex unless they gain something from it.
[–]jocelynfloresLillthOfBabylon's Bitch1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I heed women to not bend to the pressure if it is not something they want. Never a good situation for either party
[–]Sir_manalot-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So you think women are weak (being so weak that they can be pressured into something they do not enjoy) and have no agency (women do not choose to have sex, men make them do it).
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think women are more agreeable than men, something backed by evidence.
[–]Sir_manalot-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So?
[–]DeseretRainFangirl1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Obviously not all women do this. But the ones who keep having casual sex despite not getting much or any physical pleasure are generally people not strong enough to stand up for themselves and say no, lots of women do get pressured into sex they don’t want.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly my point. You think women do not have agency.
That they are too weak to be equal to men.
Therefore when she ends up making a mistake, it was because she was pressured to do it.
If a man was pressured into sexual, everyone here would be quick to tell him that it was his fault because they see him as strong.
[–]DeseretRainFangirl0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How exactly does some women being pressured into things mean all women in general are weak and have no agency? That makes zero sense.
It seems like this is the standard sociopath argument though, like any time a man victimizes a woman, for some reason illogical sociopaths have to come out and say "oh so if it's the man's fault for victimizing her and not her own fault for being victimized, that must mean all women are dumb and have no agency and shouldn't have rights!" I'm not sure if the people who say this stuff are just legitimately stupid or if they know exactly what they're saying and it's just a method to try to get out of responsibility for victimizing people.
[–]Sewud0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't because it would increase your N count.
[–]Raquel222224 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most woman want a relationship and figure if they sleep with him they’ll get that
[–]jocelynfloresLillthOfBabylon's Bitch1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah that’s dumb. Men are assholes when they lie to women about their intentions, but women need to stop lying about theirs as well. Because they get their feelings hurt
[–]TheBookOfSeilRed blood, blue balls and purple heart-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Double standards
Money.
[–]CanisLupusMigrans0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"Women who want to control their hypergamy and shame other women for not being "chaste"."
This is what good women do though.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea, it is good...FOR MEN.
It's not good for women to be coerced into marrying some loser at a young age, only to be his domestic servant and sex slave until he finally dies.
[–]SplushkaMcOwlFace1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*Good for Low value men
[–]FlavFalfuck jannies4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The word is so overused in places like FDS it pretty much lost its meaning. Anything they dislike makes you a pick me.
[–]sritaunicelular1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I know what they mean with the term but it’s all so extreme, I’m considered a pickmesha. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with trying to please your partner as long as there are healthy boundaries in place. The fact that I want and choose to cook and clean (he cooks and cleans as well) and that we both contribute financially to the relationship seems to be undesirable, apparently. I don’t know what type of men these women are hoping to attract acting and looking the way they do, but a man that is handsome, tall, that you can control, faithful to you only, doesn’t watch porn or want anything “kinky” (boring) is romantic, wants what you want and pays for EVERYTHING in this economy? Yeah, good luck.
[–]Iamthegirliam7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Pick me is not a woman who does all of the things you mentioned for a loving man who reciprocate.
Pick me is a woman who degrades herself, brings other women down and sacrifices her own well being for a man. It's a woman who will do painful sexual things to not be a prude. It's a woman who won't say anythig when her man treats her badly. Pick me is pretty much a doormat, not a loving woman in a loving relationship.
[–]sritaunicelular1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for educating me on this subject! I haven’t been around those forums much.
I 100% support women having autonomy and not degrading themselves for anyone (and same goes for men) sometimes it reads like a pickmeisha is a woman that doesn’t feel like she is a queen and chooses to pay for dates or support her partner. Glad to know it’s more than that.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sure but I think that term gets thrown out fairly often when women do things they actually enjoy that just happen to fit into that description. Like so many women actually enjoy the type of sex you describe or don’t mind doing some of the things that FDS considers “degrading” like cooking or splitting the bill. You can be in a loving, mutually satisfying relationship while doing those things and I think the term can be used to tear women down too.
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Although the main fear FDS women have is a Pickme (aka female simp) being taken advantage of by Chads and TRP plate spinners. Even if you're not FDS that is a tragic combination. No doubt plenty of FDS women were forged in the fires of such hell.
What FDS fails to realize is that TRP is also forged in the fires of simps being fucked over by Staceys and hypergamic women.
[–]gigababejflPink Pill1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
No, it's just that this information is irrelevant.
Jilted women avoid men.
Jilted men do things like go to TRP and try to punish the 8th grade Stacy over and over well into their 40s. As in punish multiple, random unconnected women for their juvenile wounds that never healed. Bc of course therapy doesnt work says those men. And of course, no one listens to men says this men.
Actively malicious behavior and the fact that you're a fairly reasonable guy but defend this utmost retardation is why women can't trust men
Either we are dealing with the psychopaths or the complicit men that support them. It's exhausting and terrifying.
The shit is already rigged against women. Who needed a sub to play fast and loose with the law and educate the worst of men to be "amoral" in their hopes of getting pussy
Literally all FDS does is tell women to cut everything they dont like off. It doesn't matter if someone thinks this is bad advice bc TRP doesn't like who we think are HVM. Either way, women aren't invading male lives. They are withholding.
[–]Joey_Lopez1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's just nonsense that bitches use to try and shame the good (wifey material) girls. The propose of it is to make all girls equally bad so men won't have any choice but to get with bad girls.
[–]gypsyyymoonss0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh like us have no choice but to get with the demonic bad boys. Sounds like equality to me
[–]Joey_Lopez0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Please all you hear is stories of how girls abuse the good dudes. That's why it's common knowledge for men to not be a good guy so girls would appreciate and treat you better.
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[–]DangZagnut3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
It's a term FDS uses for a girl who actually likes a boy and not just to exploit him for money.
Not sure why they have a term for something that doesn't exist. It's like when MGTOW uses the term unicorn. It doesn't exist either, but I guess it's a shorter way to say, "something that doesn't exist".
A pickme likes a boy and wants to be with him, and may actually put skin in the game to be n a relationship with him, but, again, it's a fantasy creature like a unicorn.
[–]OXOzymandiasBut, take time to think about that, who cares ?1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
when non fdser use, does it mean something else ?
[–]DangZagnut1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
It's a girl who is eager to get attention from a man. Or really anything. Think of two captains choosing people from a group to be on a team, and one kid dances around saying 'pick me! pick me!'.
Now make that person a girl who is into a boy. She wants attention and goes after boys to pick her.
So unlike fat ugly FDS chicks, she's supposed to be "inferior" because she has a boyfriend whereas they don't, so she's to blame and "bad" because she actually went after a boy, because she wanted to.
In FDS land, similar to RP holding 'frame', you're never supposed to show you like someone as that makes you 'weak'.
FDS, of course, ignores that boys like girls who are into them, and don't think "looking weak" makes a woman look bad, whereas since FDS is just about being gold diggers, they don't want to seem eager, ignoring that men will just ignore them because it's not like they're attractive enough to be able to hold frame in any real way, because they're just another fatty with entitlement.
[–]OXOzymandiasBut, take time to think about that, who cares ?1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well damn you detailed thag shit, now i understand
[–]gaylord_fag_21 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Based.
[–]gigababejflPink Pill1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You don't understand what a pick me is and it's funny too because an MGTOW defending some pick me behavior is completely ironic. 😄😄😄
[–]DangZagnut-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I completely understand what a pickme is.
Pickme's get boyfriends, money, and sex, FDS gets fat and another pint of ice cream sitting at home in the dark.
Me being MGTOW doesn't mean I can't recognize bitter retarded women and their "theories" of how to dig for gold. MGTOW doesn't care about pickmes or FDS, other than to mock them and critically analyze their failure rare for amusement.
[–]NonBinaryNonFeminist1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Labeling any women who isn't as anti-male as you think women should be a "pickme" is the feminist equivalent of labeling any man who isn't anti-feminist a "white knight".
[–]gigababejflPink Pill0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You understand nothing. I'm such a pick me, or was anyway, due to my inability to secure any meaningful commitment that my existence was an abomination. I got ZERO of this.
More successful pick me's maybe get men larping as MGTOW until they get the girl they really wanted. Why? Because those men are users who do not act in good faith. Debasing oneself and acting like a doormat yet the man enjoys that pussy and offers no commitment? That's a pick me.
Btw if you were realistic, you wouldn't say FDS just gets fat sitting at home in the dark. You know what just world fallacy is yet you assume that women telling women to not fuck bad men are exclusively obese femcels? Men continue to lie to themselves then Pikachu face when forced to face reality.
If being a pick me was a successful female strategy, men would incentivize it. They don't. they just use and abuse and throw back and that is why girls who live like that get left after 10 years while the man marries someone he met 6 months ago.
We are all selfish. Pick me game is cuckoldry. If it worked, I promise you, more women would find merit in it bc women are the first to bail for survival. Pleasing men for nothing is just a long con from men.
No, being MGTOW just makes you incapable of reason about the challenges women face. Just means you excuse abhorrent behavior in men and scam women into bad situations for themselves.
If MGTOW didn't care about pick mes, you wouldn't have just tried to make it sound like a good thing for anybody.
[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More successful pick me's maybe get men larping as MGTOW until they get the girl they really wanted.
MGTOW isn't interested in Pickmes any more hard nosed feminist cunts.
Pickmes are just as bad.
Pickmes isn't a "strategy" at all, I'm just saying pickmes have more dating success that those who sit around waiting for 9 months and marriage to have sex with a guy for the first time.
Cats out of the bag now, women have casual sex. FDS is women who gave it all away for free, and now want to cash in that the ride is over.
Not to worry, there's millions of simps out there that will earn your money like a whore.
They don't. they just use and abuse and throw back and that is why girls who live like that get left after 10 years while the man marries someone he met 6 months ago.
And this is why there is a perception that FDS sit in the dark eating cheesecake.
Bitterness isn't attractive.
Pleasing men for nothing is just a long con from men.
We're aware of that. We know all you care about it money. FDS isn't new.
MGTOW doesn't care about pickmes, I'm just saying they're the ones, right or wrong, that are dating guys, while FDS sits around trying to play dread games and hopefully manipulate simps into thinking her vagina has value.
simp 4 chad lol
[–]redditthrowaway1478💪M/29/Seattle/red/optimistic nihilist0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This thread reminds me how goddamn strange we all seem to outsiders...
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[–]wtknightGen X Slacker[M] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No racially charged content
[–]BlackPorcelainDoll✟ Đred Łipstick 🖤 Automods Mistre§§3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm black, I can say baby mama if I want
[–]gigababejflPink Pill2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We aren't allowed to be black in this sub. You must pretend race is 100% irrelevant. Rules are rules.
[–]GennyXThundercunt.1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol!
[–]FuckingVeet0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Originally it was pretty much just used to denote the female equivalent of a Simp. FDS being FDS uses it to denote any woman who isn't a clinical narcissist.
[–]I-wanna-GO-FAST0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman who does what men like to get what she wants from them, as opposed to being a demanding cunt that offers nothing to men in return.
On the one hand I kinda read it as "well you should never compromise in a relationship" which is obviously wrong.
On the other hand I read it as "female simp" which is obviously right. Never simp
[–]sanrio-sugarplumPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By definition, it's a girl who tears down other girls or distances herself from other girls for the sake of getting a guy to like her. I'm not the biggest fan of that term though, as it's almost always used to attack non-feminist women. Because obviously if a woman isn't a feminist she must not be genuine /s
Pickme's do exist though, they're sort of like the reverse of those guys who pretend to be feminists because they think it will help them get laid. I just think it's overused and has been taken over by feminists who can't stand the idea that not every woman shares their views.
[–]Throughawayman80808Love is a labour 🤗😒0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Any woman who doesn't hate all men, even the ones who hate most men are pickmes.
[–]witchfromthewoods0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its supposed to mean girls who act a certian way for male attention
But it really is used to dismiss any woman who doesnt go along with what the majority think/do
[–]FeniZio940 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In a nutshell... an attention whore
It can take many shapes or forms tho
A woman who is able to think for herself as opposed to being a mindless part of team-woman.
[–]LillthOfBabylon0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've NEVER seen a woman do anything for someone's attention. Ever.
You must not know that many women.
from the word alone, is that maybe it refers to women who do anything to get a certain person's attention?
Yes.
[–]SplushkaMcOwlFace0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pickme is a woman with no self respect or boundaries who thinks that she is not good enough and needs to earn love and approval.
😳 it's woman with a boyfriend.
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