How do we prevent aging and the wall?

whimsicalweasel · 2015-03-17T13:55:28+00:00

All of the sunscreen all of the time. And if you tan, stop it right now.

JackGoldsteinWrites · 2015-03-11T22:12:21+00:00

Yoga/Meditation/Tai Chi

Stretch

Lots of water

Lots of sleep

"Who gives a fuck" attitude, be carefree.

Accept the present moment, work with what life gives you. Don't try to work life into what you want.

Do 1 hour of moderate activity (walking, cleaning) a day.

Lift weights 2-4x a week. Maintain your bone mass, make your posture impeccable.

Learn to get maximum beauty from minimum facial products

Do not tan

Eat lots of greens and lean meat; try to stick to foods that came in nature's wrapper, not in plastic or cardboard wrappers.

Do mentally stimulating activities.

Flush toxic people from your life.

That's all you can do, really. The rest is genetics.

So the last stage: Accept that age is a gift. An experience many do not get to have. Cherish it as you cherished youth. Losing the bounds of youth in many ways is quite liberating.

SoonToBeMrsHim · 2015-03-11T22:11:58+00:00

Moisturiser. Everything from the nipples up. Lots of women moisturize their face but neck and collar are super important too because they see the sun just as much. Hands can show age also. So! Sunscreen and hats. A lot of water. And limit your alcohol. Don't ever smoke. Smoking really messes with the elasticity in your skin.

PhantomDream09 · 2015-03-11T22:17:13+00:00

Take care of yourself (eat healthy, stay active, sunscreen, lotion etc). Everyone loses their looks eventually, you can't avoid getting older, but you don't have to throw in the towel and stop caring all together either. Be happy, enjoy life, earn the commitment of a good man (one you respect and trust). Being a good SO to a quality man will keep you 'young' in his eyes, even when you're 60+. Getting older is part of life, but don't worry about wrinkles or panic. Look after yourself, date with purpose, and decide to be happy.

"The wall" doesn't happen for every woman, at exactly the same time. Most women do start to lose their looks around 30 - but more than that, many women that previously never really thought about getting married or having a family, suddenly become driven to accomplish both very quickly. The idea is that women should capitalize on their youth, and put it to good use (find a good man when you're young and desirable and have a lot of choices instead of waiting until your looks are starting to wane and you have to compete against women 4+ years your junior). Date with purpose, and seek out quality men - but don't stress yourself out, you're 18 and you do have plenty of time. :0)

P1nkSpr1nkles · 2015-03-11T23:31:21+00:00

I take off my eye makeup every night with pure coconut oil on a cotton ball, and I don't wash the oil off. I believe this is instant anti-aging. Also, like others said, do not tan!! I used to dislike my pale skin but now I protect it fiercely from the sun. This summer I will even start to wear a hat whenever I am outside.

mrp3anut · 2015-03-12T00:42:24+00:00

You don't.

You mitigate its affect on your life by searching for a good man when you are young, staying fit, and avoiding needless stress.

The "wall" only hurts women that put off mate seeking until it hits them.

blandboringusername · Thu Mar 12 3:16:10 2015 UTC

Healthy and fit midlife athlete here. People tell me I look a decade younger, but I have no idea. So here is the no-BS, practically zero cost answer for you OP. Contains zero percent pseudo-science.

As others have said here, stay out of the sun and never smoke. Try to get eight hours of sleep if you can. Also take care of your teeth. Never assume it's OK to eat sugary snacks or drinks and then brush your teeth four hours later. Don't snack if you can't brush. Clean teeth are actually good for your heart.

In my experience playing various sports with 40+ athletes, a high calorie diet will age you faster than anything (same age, unlimited calories on the right). Try to stay under 2000 kcal per day unless you're very athletic. Never get into a binge-and-diet yoyo cycle. Don't BS yourself. If your pants are tight, they didn't shrink. You ate too much junk last week. So fix it now. Don't wait until January and then try to lose forty pounds. Try to maintain a mid-normal range BMI.

To keep your health you really need some physical activity. It could be as simple as riding your bike to work, or playing volleyball three days a week. Ultimate frisbee. Whatever you enjoy. Find your sport and have fun with it. There may be a human on this planet who actually enjoys plodding along on a treadmill hour after hour, year after year, but I think most people suffer through it for as long as they can stand, then quit. Long term is what matters. If you hate what you do for fitness, you won't stick with it.

You really don't need a gym membership and you don't need fancy cleanses, detox treatments, wrinkle creams, etc. to stay healthy and look good. Mostly just avoid sugary foods. Sugary beverages can wreck your diet even if you do everything else right. They sneak sugar and HFCS into all kinds of supposedly savory processed foods to get you to buy them. Restaurants, even good ones, give zero fucks about your health. Cook at home as much as you can.

Always protect your knees and back. If you injure those seriously, it will bench you and prevent you from staying fit. Protect your hearing.

tl;dr Aging well is not really complicated. Most of it is diet, exercise, and avoiding injuries.

tintedlipbalm · 2015-03-11T21:53:49+00:00

Honestly this isn't the best mindset for it. You can do lots of stuff to prevent signs of aging and take care of your appearance, but ultimately don't become obsessed with it because you will still age. Eat well, exercise, take care of your skin and focus on improving your personality.

wifeintraining · 2015-03-12T00:20:23+00:00

I'm also trying to slow aging at a young age. I try to emulate the habits of East Asian women, who are known to be slim and youthful for much longer than Western women. Some habits that are common there include: using sun-protection religiously (sunscreen, sunglasses, even parasols are commonplace) eating a healthy diet low in processed food, maintaining a healthy weight, drinking a lot of fluids, and having a good skincare routine. I don't know very much about the proper way to exercise and am not an expert on dieting, so I'll talk about skincare since I've been doing research on skincare for a long time.

Everyone's skin is different, so I don't want to recommend specific products. However, some good ingredients that have research backing them are ceramides (good for retaining moisture & essential for young skin), retinoids (helps with wrinkles & building collagen), vitamin C serums (promotes even skin tone & collagen, do NOT use lemon juice for this), and Niacinimide (improves elasticity). Try products that have these things in them, and stay away from harsh ingredients like baking soda and lemon juice. Ideally, your skincare products should have a slightly acidic Ph, range 3-5.

Many here are advocating sunscreen, which is wonderful! There are things to keep in mind when using it. First, you need around 1/4 Teaspoon of sunscreen, many women don't put on enough! Second, western sunscreens only have UVB protection amounts listed, UVA protection is the key to avoiding premature photoaging, as they penetrate deeper than UVB rays! Japanese sunscreen thankfully lists both, and it's pretty easy to find a cheap sunscreen online that has over 30 SPF and a good amount of PA. Also, reapply sunscreen every 2 hours for best effect, if you are out in the sun. A BB cream containing sunscreen should still be worn with other sunscreen! This last one is common knowledge but, wear sunscreen even if it is cloudy, even if you are inside, even if it's raining! (okay, maybe not if it's raining...)

I disagree with posters saying "you can't do anything about it". Women who do not eat well, exercise, or take proper care of their skin will DEFINITELY look worse than women who do. They will also generally have shorter lives, worse mood, and find less enjoyment! Don't buy into the hype of "being yourself". Like TRP says, be the best version of yourself!! Good luck :)

EDIT TO ADD: Sorry for making this long post even longer! You asked about makeup tips. Basically: keep it natural looking. The more unnatural the makeup looks, the more uncanny its effect is (like a creepy doll!) As for natural makeup tips:

Wear primer before makeup, it helps the makeup stay in place
Use BB cream if your skin is fairly good (if not, use heavier coverage foundation)
Most important is shaping your eyebrows. Filling them in and making them look even and good will make your entire face look better.
Use bronzer for cheekbones rather than blush (especially if your face gets red easily)
"Tightline" eyes: use eyeliner on top waterline. Much more natural looking.
Use eyeshadow, rather than liner, to line eyes. Go for a puppy eye rather than a cat eye (swoop a tiny bit down rather than up) Then connect the line. It makes your eyes look bigger and more natural.
Use your bronzer to enhance your eye crease rather than an eyeshadow
Use a highlight shade on your browbone and the inner corners of your eyes. Nothing too shimmery or bright.
Use a tinted lip balm rather than a lipstick to even the shade of your lips.

Youtube has great tutorials on "no makeup makeup" if you're interested in that. Probably the best look for a girl! :)

Iva3442 · 2015-03-12T02:51:32+00:00

Stay out of the sun. It'll dry you out like a prune.

Don't you EVER touch a cigarette. Not ever.

Collagen creams are a load of crap. A collagen particle is too large to be absorbed transdermally. Use a good antioxidant cream on a regular basis. And sunscreen.

Stay hydrated.

Start exercising regularly now. Your metabolism is probably ridiculously high right now, but it won't be that way forever, and a regular exercise regiment is much easier to maintain as an established habit than to start up out of the blue once you hit 28 or so.

Be savvy with your finances. Eventually, you're going to reach a point where gravity starts winning the war, and when you get there, a high quality dermatologist and/or plastic surgeon can do amazing, amazing things to give you some more beauty years to play with. On the flip side, a low quality dermatologist and/or plastic surgeon can make you look like Jackson Pollock and Pablo Picasso collaborated to design your new face/body. Make sure you've got enough money to get the good stuff.

If you dye your hair, stop it. If you chemically straighten or curl it, stop that too. You're killing your follicles as we speak. Let your hair be what nature made it to be.

A lot of it is going to depend on your personal medical history, but from what I've seen, post menopausal women who have gone on hormone replacement therapy tend to be significantly prettier than post menopausal women who have gone without it.

TheSliceman · 2015-03-12T01:35:22+00:00

Skin skin skin.

Protect yourself from the sun. Never ever tan. Coconut oil. Drink water not soda (big deal). And get lots of sleep.

Also yoga and eat natural food.

Wanna hit the wall hard? Stuff your face with fries all the time.

FlowerAndWillowWorld · 2015-03-12T03:25:17+00:00

As far as makeup goes, don't over do it. It's becoming a trend to over do it. Most of the youtube beauty gurus and a lot of women over on makeupaddiction for example over do it. Just because there is a unique product for every inch of your face doesn't mean you have to use all of them at the same time.

Your skin is the most important part of a youthful look. So wear your sunscreen and moisturizer, and take care of any acne you might have so you have a smooth base. When you put on makeup, make your skin the focus by making it look as flawless as possible and keeping your eye makeup and lips more toned down(or only choose one to play up, not both).

Don't:

severely draw in your eyebrows(you know that drag queen style that is popular now)
wear 5 lbs of black eyeliner winged out to the side of your face
over draw your lips and wear very unnatural colors
contour your face to hell and back

You want to go for this sort of look to stay fresh and youthful looking.

And here is pretty much the same idea from a male perspective: How to avoid looking fake

GregariousWolf · 2015-03-12T10:52:49+00:00

There is no avoiding it. There is only acceptance.

Acceptance, however, doesn't mean surrender. You can't slow the march of time, but there are a lot of things you can do to maintain your health and a good quality of life. You are young (18) and you have your whole life ahead of you, so you may not be thinking this far ahead but take a look at the following link:

At 74-years old...these are your legs on triathlon & these are your legs without triathlon

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then here is an essay illustrating the importance of exercise. Preserving bone density is particularly important for females because women are more prone to osteoporosis, but everybody needs muscle and bone density. There is no shortcut. There is no fountain of youth. But the closest thing to it is having a healthy diet and vigorous exercise.

P1nkSpr1nkles · 2015-03-11T23:33:21+00:00

I just want to add there is hope... I am almost 34 and still get carded. Once I almost got kicked out of a liquor store with my husband because I didn't have I.D. on me. So don't give up hope, there are lots of us 30-somethings (and higher) that still look young!

BCFtrip · 2015-03-12T05:11:59+00:00

Sunscreen every day and good lotions. I was seeing a 43 year old recently that had better skin than any 20 year old I've met, she honestly still wasn't at the wall. Every day since she was 19 she's used sunscreen and lotion.

Calla_ · 2015-03-12T16:40:21+00:00

How do you guys use all this moisturizer and subscreen without getting acne? Even the best sunscreens and face lotions have caused me bad acne. When I stopped putting anything on my face my skin became dramatically better.

namasgo · 2015-03-11T21:42:40+00:00

Do lots of yoga...seriously.

yungwarthog · 2015-03-11T21:45:47+00:00

You can't.

ThatRedPiller · 2015-03-12T09:29:47+00:00

Well, I'm seventeen and male. Can't really speak about makeup of anything along those lines, but I'm pretty in to science, biology and ageing in particular.

There's a couple of things that largely affect ageing. One is telomeres, which are caps on your DNA that prevent it from getting damaged. Each time your cells divide, the telomeres get slightly shorter and it becomes more likely that the genetic material will be damaged. This results in ageing as well as many other issues, like cancer. At the moment, there's not really anything you can do about that, though some studies have shown that stress and poor diet can wear down your telomeres faster.

The other is free-radicals. Oxygen molecules are pretty volatile and can damage your cells. Anti oxidants are particularly good for ageing as they prevent/reduce the damage that anti oxidants cause.

Basically, for the most part, ageing will be caused by cellular damage. Stress, poor nutrition, smoking and drinking too much are all obvious examples of this. It's been said already, but sun screen will help a lot, preventing the Suns radiation from damaging your skin. It may also be worth doing a bit of research about your makeup, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, perfume, face wash any anything else that you apply to yourself to look for the least damaging chemicals and best anti-oxidant and moisturising properties.

Also, when washing your face or showering/bathing, it's a good idea to keep the water as cold as you can tolerate. Hot water dries out your skin and opens your pores, allowing dirt to get in more easily. Obviously, occasionally, it's beneficial to expose yourself to heat, but think saunas rather than hot baths.

Exercise is another obvious point that I cannot emphasise enough. As well as the clear benefits of looking and feeling better and being healthier and happier, you can also target certain areas to massively improve your look. Squats are good for obvious reasons and focusing on your chest with push ups, bench presses and other, similar exercises are beneficial in every possible way. Just try not to strain yourself, keep good form and eat well. Don't want malnutrition or arthritis.

Finally, here's something I can't break down much. My mother is in her mid fifties. She has still not gone through the menopause and her looks have hardly changed over my entire life. She does just about everything I've stated above, other than working out (but walks a hell of a lot), but also thinks that the late menopause has helped her retain a fairly youthful look this whole time. So, it could be beneficial to look in to delaying the menopause for obvious reasons and the less obvious ones.

fatalcharm · 2015-03-12T02:56:02+00:00

Stay out of the sun as much as possible. Avoid alcohol and cigarettes, wearing make up is ok and can offer some small amount of protection from the sun but wash it off before going to sleep and be careful when washing it off. Don't tug at the skin around your eyes.

I'm 31 years old (so I have hit the wall, lol) and still get mistaken for being in my early 20's, despite having a few drinks on a regular basis since my late teens. I am not sure how much longer it is going to last (each day I look in the mirror expecting my face to start "dropping" and look less youthful) but I know that it is because I am an "indoors" person and very rarely go out in the sun. If I do, it is no more than 10 minutes at a time in the Australian sun.

Stay hydrated, a good moisturiser is great but not very effective if you are dehydrated all the time.

EDIT: Also, just remembered... Wear sunglasses where ever it is bright, even inside if you have to. Many of my friends have told me that I look ridiculous wearing sunglasses indoors in a bright room but it has stopped me from squinting/frowning. I actually do this because bright light can cause headaches for me and never thought of the ageing aspect until recently. It's not just protecting your eyes and the skin around your eyes from the sun, you are preventing frown lines/muscles (even if you don't have frown lines, the "frown muscles" can make you look older and grumpier!) and crows feet.

LadyLumen · 2015-03-12T05:00:55+00:00

As a 27 year old, I'm pretty interested in this topic.

lucythelumberjack · 2015-03-12T07:03:47+00:00

Wear sunscreen. Moisturize like it's your religion. Take your makeup off EVERY NIGHT, even if you're tired. Drink water like it's going out of style. Try to get some sleep.

I'm 19 and I realize that none of this sounds fun, but hang in there. It'll pay off in the long run :)

dontcaretoshare · 2015-03-12T13:10:35+00:00

I'm 31 and haven't been single since I was 15, first married at 19, then again at 24ish and was proposed to in between. I am not the prettiest girl, I only in the past 2 or 3 years have ever worn a skirt, and I almost NEVER wear makeup (no wrinkles as of yet and my husband doesn't like it anyway). Making yourself pretty on the outside won't guarantee you won't hit the wall. Just focus on being a good person, take care of your body, take care of your man, and of course take care of your skin. For exercise, I hear strong curves is pretty good, and for your skin, as someone else mentioned, visit /r/skincareaddiction - it's helped me tremendously.

SaveRana · 2015-03-12T18:53:20+00:00

There is a growing field of study surrounding using blood to reverse or prevent aging. A little gruesome, but who knows what the future will bring.

mensafloyd · 2015-03-13T21:22:42+00:00

MitoQ

You will send postcards, thanking me.

drugdoctor87 · 2015-03-14T19:26:57+00:00

In addition to all the advice here about staying physically young, I believe having a youthful emotional state (ex: not bitter, mean, jealous) can also help.

darkhorsefkn · 2015-03-20T04:21:39+00:00

dont smoke ! Ruins your skin

taylorgrande · 2015-04-06T00:30:01+00:00

drink gallons of water. moisturize, moisturize, moisturize. sweat everyday, whether it's yoga, running, or walking.

muliebritee · 2015-03-16T02:21:58+00:00

For those wondering about antioxidants I recommend a good vitamin C serum. It's one of the few products with studies to back it up. The best part is: you can make it yourself!

There is a post on r/skincareaddiction that gives good directions. Pretty inexpensive and easy, considering the results you can get. Vitamin C is a antioxidant and also stimulates collagen production. It is much more effective applied directly to the skin than consumed in food/supplement form.

Note: the results are very slow. You need to use it over a period of months to years.

Candyland21245 · 2015-03-16T12:49:36+00:00

I don't know what the scientific explanation is, but Vitamin E oil on my acne prone areas has totally cleared up my skin! Plus Vitamin E oil gets rids of scars, prevents wrinkles, and keeps your skin soft. I use it every night and then in the mornings I put a little under my eyes before I put my concealer on. It helps the concealer go on much smoother and I don't have to use as much. Also using a tinted moisturizer with SPF kinda takes care of the needing a bit of makeup and SPF and moisturizes your skin :)

But remember that everyone ages! It's inevitable, try to just maintain a youthful mindset and it will reflect positively on your appearance.

sigmayogi · 2015-03-20T00:30:17+00:00

If you want miracle rejuvenation try hot yoga. I have 50 year olds in my studio who have better skin than teenagers.

The "glow" sets in around 3 months of regular practice.

CureMeNot · 2015-03-12T03:07:46+00:00

Keep your weight steady. Avoid gaining or losing weight too quickly. It's bad for your skin and breasts and promotes quick sagging of your breasts.

Also wear a bra every time, even for sleeping. Your boyfriend/husband will thank you for it when you're in your forties.

Avoid sugar altogether. It's bad for your skin and everything else in your body.

Drink a glass of lukewarm water every day as the first thing in the morning.

Don't eat unless you're very hungry. Don't fill yourself up. Keep at least 5 hours between meals. Contrary to the common belief, snacking isn't healthy. It exhausts the digestive system. Your digestive system is the largest in your body, and you want to keep it healthy in your younger years so it'll remain healthy in the later years. "Take care of your stomach for the first fifty years of your life, it'll take care of you in the next fifty years." I read it somewhere online but can't remember who said it. It sounded like a wise advice to me.

And don't worry too much about the inevitable things in life. Smile and always try to find a reason to be happy about. Happiness is very attractive.

TempestTcup · 2015-03-12T12:42:17+00:00

The more you worry about the wall, the harder you are going to hit it. Live a good life, everything in moderation, smile, smile, smile! I've found the best ways to stay looking good is to keep your weight down and leave your hair long. I do all the bad stuff the others warn you about: drink, smoke, sunbathe intentionally, etc. I look fabulous and I'm in my early 50s. Oh, and coconut oil; I use it like lotion for all my moisturizers.

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