Youth obsessed

pearlsandstilettos · 2019-09-24T17:16:56+00:00

I see we've drawn some attention from another sub. This post is for women and only men who have previously participated on RPW. If you don't have a comment history here this isn't the post for you to start on and if you do you will receive a no questions asked ban from here on out.

blimpette · 2019-09-22T10:33:24+00:00

Last year I was in a similar circumstance.

A 58 year old man in a work-related collab started coming after me. He was a lot more sneaky about it, insisting that that was not the case. That went on long enough that I started to feel I was going crazy, because he was clearly interested in me but kept denying it and insisting that I was crazy and overreacting whenever he believed that I had covertly rejected him. when I overtly told him to back off because he was invading my personal space, he insisted that personal space was a societal construct that was the result of society becoming more isolated. He invaded everyone’s personal space, naturally.

Finally he told me four weeks into working together: I knew that you were the one for me the day I met you. I let my response remain neutral and noncommittal because I already knew that any perceived rejection led to him gaslighting me into believing that there was something wrong with me, if not worse.

I won’t go into how uncomfortable the situation became for me, as he seemed to be closing in more and more and I felt more and more powerless, afraid and disgusted. He would threaten to cut off work opportunities if I didn’t respond the way he wanted me to. I won’t go into further details— let’s just say it got worse. A lot worse, and involved sexual assault.

I extricated myself from the situation as soon as I possibly could, and I cut him off without any explanation. It was a solo collab project for an independent org, so I didn’t have any HR to go to for filing a complaint. I recognized that if I openly rejected him, he would go after my future and try to destroy me—I’d watched him do worse to others in response to less provocation.

Once I cut him off, within a span of hours I had over 50 emails in my inbox, constant phone calls, and demands that he would cut off all my work opportunities if I didn’t respond. I knew he intended to smear my reputation.

When I continued to not respond, he flew 5000 miles and broke into my mom’s apartment looking for me. It was horrifying, to be frank. We filed a police report and he is permanently out of my life, suffice to say.

It blew me away that any 58 year old man could actually act like that, and think that way towards a 26 year old woman.

After a lot of research and soul searching, I’ve come to a conclusion:

The problem isn’t women, and the problem isn’t men. It’s rampant narcissism and ASPD.

I would wager a guess that a lot of the guys on the RP sub were deeply hurt by a pathological woman. So naturally they project their trauma onto the group that their brain associates with the traumatic experience. I get that— for months I struggled to be in a room alone with a middleaged man.

Then, the narcissists within that group (of which there are also many) harness the pain of the aforementioned neurotypical men in order to point the finger and blame all women to rally them in unified hatred. (I’ve seen feminists do this too.)

Narcissists and psychopaths are terrified of being found out. They don’t want the world to recognize their tactics, because that’s where they get their kicks or their power from. So they will work together to take down targets or groups. I’ve seen it again and again.

This is why I think it’s so crucial that we stop breaking down groups by race, gender etc— what’s really happening is, all the narcissists and psychopaths in the world are showing their true colors (Reddit mods, politicians etc) and they’re effectively triangulating the other hurt people into hating another group, instead of the pathological disorder that causes people to be completely heartless.

Just my two cents.

Edit: excuse the novel; didn’t realize I’d written that much.

morninmoose · 2019-09-22T13:11:46+00:00

dont look for moral men in a bar

cassandrarose39 · 2019-09-22T11:53:11+00:00

Not all men are youth obsessed. Some men are mature enough to know they don’t have a lot in common with a much younger woman.

I do know I didn’t find my husband in a bar and he wouldn’t have married or dated me if that’s where I hung out. He decided after his first wife turned into a bar fly he would never date a woman who spent her time in one. I don’t doubt he would divorce me if I suddenly started doing this as a good time.

I’m almost 40 and thankfully I’m married but there’s no way if I was single would I step foot in a place like that. It might have been fun and cute at 21 but it’s not past like 22. It’s going to look very desperate for a middle aged lady to be doing activities like that. Obviously it’s not going to attract a good man. If you want to help your sister don’t take her to places like this. It’s going to make her feel bad and she’s going to meet the bottom of the barrel in men.

Your sisters going to have a very hard time meeting a guy being single at 43. Was she divorced or widowed? This is going to be an issue. The type of man she’s going to want in that age bracket are way beyond spending their time in the club. They are managing stock portfolios, retirement funds, working very long hours. They are at the top of earning potential. They will not share that with a party girl drinking her time away picking up guys.

Have your sister join the country club, the gym, or some other kinds of clean activities and she will have better luck.

RedPillMissionary · 2019-09-22T13:47:20+00:00

“Spolier alert”. These men most likely had no female attention until they were successful. They spent possibly decades wondering why women like you didnt like nice guys, but only successful guys or the most handsome or tall guys instead. Many also got married and watched their wives manipulate them out of hundreds of thousands of dollars in the name of “love.” Its their turn to have the power that you have, and yes, plenty of them have been with other 26 year olds. You should know this being from a latin country. The AVERAGE american man can travel to any latin american country and be treated like a king by women half their age. No, they dont care if its because of their money or status, because all women are interested in that, even those that comment on this sub.

[deleted] · 2019-09-22T16:58:28+00:00

My thoughts are a little different than yours. I don't fault men for preferring younger woman, just like I don't fault women for preferring tall men, built men, etc. I do think people in both genders should be open to people outside of their type, because you could end up meeting someone amazing. I always preferred tall guys and then ended up marrying a dude 5'5 because I wasn't adverse to dating short men-they just weren't my preference. He's amazing and treats me great and my preferences have actually changed over the years to where I now like short guys and find them attractive.

So I'm not mad at men for liking younger woman, but hope they'd be open to dating women slightly older so that they don't miss out on someone who might be perfect for them.

Also, I mean to a certain extent. Sometimes the age difference just gets creepy. When my mom and stepdad split, my stepdad dated all of these women who were between 18-20 (he was in his thirties). It really creeped me out when I hit my teen years and I'd go visit him and women only three or four years older than me were chilling with him.

But when my mom started dating women in their late teens, it was just as creepy. She came out a few years after they split and started dating women, and a few of them were a lot younger than her.

Hella creepy to date barely legal humans if you are in your thirties or up, regardless of gender.

stevierose789 · 2019-09-22T16:38:56+00:00

Here is my take on this: An older woman, no matter how attractive will be invisible when she is with a young attractive woman. However, she may very well stand out when she is alone or with women her own age. You are actually doing your sister a disservice by taking her to bars with you if your are going to talk to men. If you are going to relax and socialize only as sisters and only with other women that is fine. To expect that she will attract a man in a bar setting only sets her up for disappointment and a hit to her self esteem.

Whiteliesmatter1 · 2019-09-22T15:54:05+00:00

Well to be fair, the way your sister was treated is the way pretty much all men are treated anyways. Of course if you are used to privilege, then being treated like every one else is treated seems horrible. I get that.

But both genders have certain groups of them that get all the privileges. For men it is wealth and power-and sometimes even that isn’t enough-look at Mark Zuckerberg’s wife for example. She is about as good looking as he is, and he is one of the world’s most influential billionaires. (Or maybe that proves that men aren’t as shallow as you think).

The point is, men don’t even get the advantage that youth presents women to begin with. To get even a chance at that advantage, men have to earn it for the most part-either in the gym, the workplace, or more likely, both.

You could look at it that she was lucky enough to have that advantage at one point in her life, not be sad that it is over. Plus there are plenty of men who would be all over her anyways. Those are probably not the type who approach strange women in restaurants, so she would have to put in a bit more effort than absolutely none to find those men. Which is what most of us have to do to find partners anyways.

sensual_predditor · 2019-09-22T08:23:40+00:00

You didn't want the men because of their age, they didn't want your sister because of her age.

I'm sorry that life is unfair, because unfair it is. With regard to women you will have all your sexual marketplace value long before you know what to do with it. However, if you think 40 and 50 year old men don't hook up with 26 year olds, you might the delusional one.

I have a few questions: How long have you been here in this exceedingly mercenary American culture, because you seem surprised by the lack of traditional values; and why isn't your sister married, at 43 years old? Is she divorced, or widowed...?

XxKawaiiCupcakezxX · 2019-09-22T07:14:08+00:00

I'm a centrist leaning more on red pill values(a little late), and with me being 27(black) and looking to better herself I come here just to get a few tips from time to time. I also do share your fear as well, placing all that time and effort to make a man happy only for him to just throw it all away for the "newer model".

However, even though I've never been in a TRUE relationship(yet), I feel as if your man truly loves you and if you can bring enough to the table, why would he want to look elsewhere and if you provide everything he could ever want and he STILL wishes to cheat on the love of his life for someone younger, then he's just a pitiful sad joke. Sadly it's true men are into younger females and they were simply flirting with you or willing to offer you some money just to see if you were an "easy" catch which is what most of these men look for(sadly a of good number girls this day and age are easy catches). It boosts the man's ego, yanno?

I've never been on the RedPillMen reddit before, too afraid to check it out, buuut I've seen the videos they make on youtube and I feel like deep down many of them do truly want a woman who's worth their time, but they're either too lazy to look or just feel like all hope is lost, and choose to be bitter. Also you're right about these men getting older, a fair majority of them aren't gonna turn into hot Silver Foxes...XD

I hope I didn't sound stupid, I'm new here. Hopefully, we get some helpful answers. :)

loneliness-inc · 2019-09-22T14:38:30+00:00

You complain about the men being angry but you sound quite bitter yourself.

Here's a difficult truth of life. You know yourself from the inside, but others know you from the outside. This means that they can only see the most superficial elements of your being. Your skin, your clothing, your expression and how you present yourself.

People are incapable of seeing the inner you. This doesn't make them bad people, it just makes them people. People who are only capable of seeing what the eye can see. People who are incapable of seeing what the eye cannot see, namely, your inner you.

The biological reason why men associate with women altogether is for reproduction. Without the need to reproduce, men have absolutely no reason to have anything to do with women. Men are very capable of surviving on their own and women annoy men to death in many ways. The one and only reason to want to get close to a woman is for reproduction.

Now this isn't a conscious choice, it's an instinctual, biological one. This is what drives men to be nicer to women and to give them a pussypass. This is what drives men to put up with all kinds of bullshit that they'd never tolerate from men. Because the lizard brain wants to reproduce. They may not always be conscious of this, but it's always there. Even in gay men.

From a reproduction standpoint, a younger woman is more valuable than an older one. Her eggs are fresh and delicious and not about to go stale. She is therefore more attractive. This isn't ideology, it's biology.

When a man takes TRP he becomes angry. When a woman takes TRP, she becomes bitter. These are steps within the grief cycle which men and women tend to experience differently. Neither is better or worse than the other. They just are. You're in the exact same phase as the angry men you so despise.

The root of the anger and bitterness is because your outlook on life was just completely shattered and the ugly truth revealed. For many men it's the discovery that women are incapable of loving him the way he will love her, for many women it's the discovery that he only sees the most outer layer of you and is therefore only attracted to the shell image you present. You feel like the inner you is ignored.

Truth is that your inner you is invisible. No person is capable of seeing the inner you. After spending a lot of time together they can catch a glimpse, but they will never ever fully see the inner you. Not even after many years of marriage. Expecting anyone to see the inner you will lead to a lot of disappointment.

This is why people who get divorced often realize that they never really really knew their spouse. Even after so many years of marriage. The truth is that no one really knows anyone because we are only capable of seeing the most outer layer. After spending a lot of time together, we can catch of glimpse of the next layer and maybe another layer or two, but we will never ever truly know nor will we ever truly be known.

It's life. Accept it or remain bitter forever. Your choice.

melitele3 · 2019-09-22T12:59:33+00:00

It isn’t that men necessarily go for the young ones purely basing on the “attractiveness” they can offer. There are many women who are very attractive in their 40s and 50s. Being young doesn’t equal being beautiful - there are tons of unattractive young women out there.

The reason (I am talking about people who want serious relationships) men go for younger women is because women have very limited amount of time when it comes to fertility. Many women who have hit the wall and never had children but dream of having them are under heavy pressure of time. Most of these women will want to settle as soon as possible and they will not want to wait any longer.

Not only younger women are way more likely to conceive but they go through pregnancy easier (statistically) and they recover from it faster as well. They usually aren’t pressured by time as well and don’t pose the stress on the man to become pregnant as fast as possible.

Older women most likely have a lot of different experiences, body count and histories - like divorces, children etc. and not many men want to voluntarily take them on their shoulders as well.

Many men (especially those who are successful) have sacrificed their youth and time to build wealth. I know many men who went total “nun mode” for 10-15 years and worked insanely hard and lived poor to establish the financial security (that a lot of women desire). After they are more secure and successful they might have time or desire to finally settle down and they want a woman that will be attractive, fertile and have as low body count as possible - which basically means it is more likely it will be a young female.

Life is brutal, we just need to work alongside.

As a woman who has married a man 14 years older I will say that finances had nothing to do with the attraction - he was broke at the time. For me I wanted an older man because I have always had a desire of serious relationship and starting a family early on in life - many younger men do not share same vision and weren’t mature enough for me.

Maarko · 2019-09-22T14:40:02+00:00

The amount of delusion a woman must have at 43 to look for high quality men in their age is astronomical.

I mean you're free to choose your means of suffering.

But do you realize top1% 40yo men are literally in their prime in all aspects of life and they bang the top 20% of all women available all the time?

You just don't know about it.

Helmet_Icicle · 2019-09-22T10:35:02+00:00

The same reason you post stuff like this,

https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/2wd4iw/dat_dress_design/

https://old.reddit.com/r/crappycontouring/comments/ajkhpv/oh_honeyno/

which is: for all your perceived problems, you're glad that at least you're not her.

hudry77 · 2019-09-22T09:58:43+00:00

I do agree that women at 26 don't want to bang a 50 year old tbh. They are generally clearly not as attractive or fertile as younger men. Most men worth their value won't want to bang women at the age of their daughters. I think this may be an American thing, not sure.

blueflower_1 · 2019-09-22T08:57:29+00:00

Men want beauty and women want money. What's unfair? It's facts.

rbx11111098 · 2019-09-22T12:04:16+00:00

This certainly helps explain why people lack character and integrity.......they spend more time "dressing up" the outside and caring more about it than they do cultivating the depth of character on the inside. Men who choose women on looks alone and then whine like babies that the women did them wrong only have themselves to blame. They chose poorly because they are myopic. Conversely, women who choose men based on externals alone and not character only have themselves to blame when the man does them wrong. Our society has practically no wisdom whatsoever. The sheer stupidity is overwhelming evident everyday.

Dressing up the outside of an individual (whether that be looks, figure, clothes, homes, cars, money, titles, etc.,) is tantamount to decorating the parlor in the Titanic. It's an exercise in futility. It's also similar to getting plastic surgery on your face before you die so your corpse can looking beautiful at your viewing. I highly doubt anyone would give a shit looking at your decayed flesh.

P.S. This explains why hardly anyone gives a shit about geriatrics or old people in general in our society. Yes, it reeks of fake people everyday.

masterdarthrevan · 2019-09-22T17:40:31+00:00

Look. I'm not condoning it. But this is the way men are wired from a psychological standpoint. This is an age old argument men and women have. Men and women have different kind of brains. They each look for something different. Women want a strong reliable, stable, honest and helpful husband. Men want an attractive female to play with their,. Privates.

JBurger58 · 2019-09-23T11:52:03+00:00

Nothing immoral or atypical about men wanting younger, seemingly more fertile, women. It's human nature as a result of evolutionary psychology. Just as men don't get to judge women for their hypergamy, women don't get to judge men for their own procreational imperatives. I myself (31) don't care about age as I don't want a my own biological child and am rather self-aware of my behavioural driving forces. Resultantly, I've started exploring my interest in older women (38-43 so far), which has proven to be refreshing.

professordane67 · 2019-09-24T19:10:25+00:00

Harvard reunion with suited old men?

There's your answer. The Harvard ivy league graduates with 6 or 7 figure incomes feel that their financial resources trumps their old age and buys them the affection of young women. They seek trophies, not relationships.

Try middle class where guys are more apt to be interested in women their own age and want substance, not shiny new toys.

janeaustenfan99 · 2019-09-22T10:32:05+00:00

I was watching a movie with a date in his 40s and I noted that the 50-something lead actor had a love interest who was my age, and I thought it was odd how frequent that is in films , and he said well that’s fine because men age better (implying that women don’t age well and a 40 or 50 something female love interest would be less desirable to see). It really turned me off, I guess he felt comfortable enough to say that since we’d met up a few times at that point. It made me sad honestly because, I won’t always be this age or look this way so if things lasted with us, what then?

captainsaveahoe69 · 2019-09-22T23:53:37+00:00

Your sister is basically infertile. All those men are still very fertile.

Evolution doesn't care about your feelings.

LoveFooles · 2019-09-22T16:19:45+00:00

A young 19 year old probably thinks the same of you. She can get a more rich, successful and handsome man your age than you at 26.

jfiscal · 2019-09-22T14:47:49+00:00

Why would they be interested in a 43 year old woman?

Empiricism is a hell of a drug

schielegirl · 2019-09-22T15:22:21+00:00

listen, girl. i hear you. i am on your page in the sense that us ladies on this sub need a healthy dose of reality.

i made a comment recently that got downvoted to hell about how to handle a man who wanted to be poly. my response was SECURE THE RING, GIRL, AND DEAL WITH THAT LATER. secure the ring, get half the estate, wait 30 days till after the annulment expires, and then talk about either 1. not wanting to be poly, or 2. not give a fuck because who even cares what he does as long as you're safe and being taken care of.

does that sound over the top in the context of what they're using US for??? absolutely not. that man wanted to marry and lock that woman down 100% and then also fuck all kinds of other women and god knows whats else! fine, but secure those assets.

that is not to say that men who want to be poly or even have had an affair are incapable of being great, loving, caring, fathers and husbands. they certainly can.

but we as women need to be less emotional, and more pragmatic about our futures in a financial sense. that way we will be taking care of ourselves (and our children) and also be less resentful.

in the end, if the bills are paid, the kids are fed, we don't have to work, and can have the lifestyle we want, who cares if he's sleeping with another woman. one off your checklist. sad but true *shrugs*.

this is not the only way, and i do not say this in a resentful way, however the male perspective must be considered and evaluated realistically here.

Pezotecom · 2019-09-22T19:18:11+00:00

women growing up : that guy 8 years older than me and a fucking asshole is so hot omg

nice guys: :(

older guys : nice butt lmao

women hitting the wall : wow this is so unfair, change your sexual orientations

mydogwillbeinmyheart · 2019-09-23T03:18:09+00:00

You're definitely in the anger/ sadness/ frustration phase of encountering the red pill. I don't judge you, mind you.

It happens to men too. You can choose to decide wisely having the information you have or become resentful.

snatch_haggis · 2019-09-23T03:44:01+00:00

I'm a 43 year old dude. I'm honestly not particularly attracted to younger women, for all the same reasons you're not attracted to older men -- no common ground, etc. I've generally outgrew the just fucking / purely physical stuff at this point in my life, I'm not interested in one night stands and frankly women in their 20s are pretty damned boring. Do I still admire a fine female form? Sure. But I'd still have been way more likely to flirt with your sister.

That said, it's still a truism that a lot of (but not all) men get to hold on to their sex appeal a bit longer than women do, largely due to the fact that women (at least without HRT) start to become more and more androgynous as they hit pre- and post-menopause.

Maybe your own personal social circle isn't interested in 40-50 year old dudes, but there are certainly women in your generation who get wet for Jon Hamm or George Clooney or whoever. Older men also tend to have a more established vision for who they are, a plan for their lives, are more comfortable in their own skin, etc, etc, all of which can raise someone's SMV or, as they say around here, RMV.

Title	Youth obsessed
Author	rataferoz7
Upvotes	73
Comments	89
Date	September 22, 2019 6:32 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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