Being Divorced is a Status Symbol

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johnnight · 2014-06-16T16:15:21+00:00

If you were a never-married, mid-30s single, they would ask you what is wrong with you. (edit: can self-confirm)

But you were married and now you are single, so you are pre-tested. There is no doubt you know your way around marriage and you do not have to be 'trained'.

Isn't this the opposite of what a man would think? The older guy still wants that untouched, as young as possible virgin. He does not want a woman "trained" by another man.

Furthermore, I guess women know women and understand that divorce is usually the fault of an unhaaaappy woman. So there is nothing wrong with the divorced guy. Men OTOH know that a divorced woman is trouble, because she is bound to be unhappy again.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-06-16T14:05:26+00:00

"Divorce is a status symbol for men. It shows balls, it shows money, and it shows preselection.

Divorce is expensive. I spent the equivalent of a very, very nice luxury car on the process, and still have a reasonably nice standard of living. Women know how expensive it is, and immediately get a sense for how much I must earn.

Marriage is one of the biggest shit tests women have in their arsenal. For a man who obviously said "fuck you, I'll just pay the price for my freedom" it probably speaks volumes."

Yep.

But you forgot to mention this: you were willing to get married in the first place. If you did it once, you might do it again.

Gnoppong · 2014-06-16T14:57:43+00:00

One of my dad's friends just got a divorce as his kids were leaving for college. I was stunned at how happy he was and how well he is still doing so I asked him how he was able to handle it all. As drunk as he was, he leans over to me and whispers "Get a prenup kid, get a fucking prenup."

DegenerateAsshole · 2014-06-16T13:51:34+00:00

If you have been married before it means that at one point a woman was willing to devote her life to you. It's the ultimate form of preselection.

ohhaio · 2014-06-16T13:52:21+00:00

Seems reasonable. I was at a backyard get together yesterday and one of the wives remarked that she's taking a full month vacation in Colorado this summer - a month at the Ritz - paid for not by her doctor husband but instead by her rich female friend ... "she divorced well".

At the same gathering, one of my male buddies, divorced less than a year but a very successful business owner, shared more of his phone pix of various naked women he's banged lately. The RP goes deep.

carinus1 · 2014-06-16T16:14:27+00:00

Nice spin. "status" "worthy of attention"

It would be more honest to say you've become a target. If you want to use that as bait..ok.

That's incredibly expensive bait tho. Would not recommend.

ProfessorD2 · 2014-06-16T16:45:52+00:00

If you married once you're seen as the type to marry again.
Women have a need to nurse wounded people and animals back to health. It's perhaps their best quality -- the need to nurture. When I mention being divorced I often see those sympathetic eyes and get the impression I'm suddenly a wounded little birdie needing lots of love and attention.
Women are competitive (So are men). A divorced man is the perfect opportunity to prove oneself a better woman than his first wife. This is especially true in the area of sex. "First wife was a prudish old witch who never put out? Oh boy, are you gonna appreciate me!" Every woman thinks she's amazing in bed because that's all guys have ever told her in bed.

I doubt it has anything to do with money. If anything, a divorced man has already lost half his shit, and is quite possibly paying child support and/or alimony. I don't see how divorce can possibly enhance a man's perceived economic standing in the eyes of any woman.

Ferinex · 2014-06-16T16:37:01+00:00

I have a different hypothesis: they are more interested because it means another woman was successful at taking you for a ride. In my experience, however, divorced men are seen with either ridicule or indifference. Being divorced can be very immasculating.

superangelo64 · 2014-06-16T16:27:37+00:00

Here's some fucking irony:

For a guy being divorced is a status symbol. Like it was stated here it proves that another chick at one point wanted to make a full devotion to you. At least that's how women view it.

For a woman it's a huge red flag, especially if she has a kid. Women are always trying to hook their claws in a guy (LTR), but most men will not take a divorced woman seriously as LTR material.

The irony is that most divorces are initiated by women. They drink the kool-aid their TV shows and magazines dish out that it's like having a 'clean slate' and a second chance, even though in reality you're only viewed as damaged goods.

Shit is like instant karma.

(I got married at 21 and divorced at 25. The last time I saw my ex-wife with my own eyes post-divorce she was on the floor of her new house, sobbing in the fetal position, half naked, and threatening to kill herself).

ProfessorD2 · 2014-06-16T16:37:34+00:00

For a man who obviously said "fuck you, I'll just pay the price for my freedom" it probably speaks volumes.

Considering most divorces are filed by the wife, probably not.

Menadian · 2014-06-16T19:41:38+00:00

To me it more likely screams:" I can divorce YOU!"

charlie_gillespie · 2014-06-16T20:38:33+00:00

Kind of reminds me of Seinfeld when George found women were more interested in him when he showed them a picture of his dead wife. Preselection.

CarlsPudding · 2014-06-16T14:45:37+00:00

So to make a practical point out of this, I have this to say to any unhappily married man: Do NOT stay with your wife just because you're afraid of the cost of divorce. You're not just paying off one whore; you're investing in a whole slew of future whores as well. Think of it more as a club membership.

MrMagwitch · 2014-06-16T21:10:51+00:00

jkonine · 2014-06-16T15:34:33+00:00

It also means you're kind of broke :(

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LAMFF · 2014-06-16T18:50:58+00:00

Have to take your word for it buddy, ain't no way I'll ever marry. I respect myself too much for that, plus money and time are great things to have an abundance of at your disposal.

[deleted] · 2014-06-16T19:13:11+00:00

As a man who has never been married, I can totally understand this. Speak with married and recently-divorced men it's obvious marriage is a massive plus when it comes to preselection, even if it was a really messy and acrimonious divorce or the man is in a dead marriage.

It's been said that marriage is similar to a job: it's so much easier to find another position when you're in one.

I was in blissful BP ignorance, thinking women would rather go for some chap who hadn't been tainted by some bad marriage. How utterly wrong I was. In fact the opposite is true. Never been married is a massive red flag, showing that not only were you not attractive enough for a woman to tie the knot with you, but you clearly weren't interested in settling down and therefore not worth it.

It probably accounts for my lack of success at getting women's attention in my 40s. By now they expect a man to have been married (not sure how hey feel about LTRs, maybe marriage is just easier when it comes to preselection).

[deleted] · 2014-06-16T20:15:13+00:00

Steer clear of any woman who would see that as a status symbol.

torn_hangnail · 2014-06-16T21:30:40+00:00

or maybe it just means she smells a sucker.

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[deleted] · 2014-06-16T15:51:21+00:00

Resplendent is my new favorite word now.

fx-115es · 2014-06-16T20:37:18+00:00

marriage is for the poor. marriage is for the men, who can't afford the rent. marriage is for the men, who can't afford mortgage. marriage is for the men, who need to share financial burden of housekeeping. marriage is for people, who can't afford retirement or insurance benefits or child. marriage is for the men, who can't financially outsource those for cost.

tsotha · 2014-06-16T18:55:33+00:00

The problem I have with your logic is it's normally the woman who files for divorce, so the "fuck you, I'll just pay the price for my freedom" part doesn't really work.

kingofpoplives · 2014-06-17T00:23:49+00:00

Perhaps part of it is that you've proven you will commit. A man of the same age who has never married has pretty much confirmed himself to be a degenerate player immune to commitment pressures.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-06-17T16:36:32+00:00

Them stars you are seeing in her eyes are dollar signs. Any woman impressed with a man who is divorced is NOT getting them tingles. She is after Beta Bucks. If you use Beta Bait the Jezebels see it as Ring Bait and you have been targeted. There is no better indication that she will lay you like tile UNTIL the honeymoon. Don't be a retard: Run Forest, Run!

popthatpill · 2014-06-16T14:45:38+00:00

I never thought of this, but now I think about it, this makes sense (here, have an upvote).

I guess the status dynamic will hinge on the woman's assessment of who rejected who: did the woman reject the man (low status, beta, avoid) or did the man reject the woman (high status, has options, alpha)?

Female questioning, if any, about the divorce and its circumstances are probably thus an attempt to assess the status dynamic, who rejected who, etc. The impression a man would logically want to give is that they discarded a lower-value wife.

mypenguinbruce11 · 2014-06-17T09:22:48+00:00

Since when is a failed marraige in your history ever a good thing? It tells you:

A.) You've been through some drama and are likely to have baggage.

B.) That you have an ex-wife that could possibly be crazy.

C) That you or her cheated, or

D.) That you are so horrible at communication that your marriage fell apart.

None of which is appealing for long term relationships. My guess? You're attractive and therefore get attention.

Sturmgeist781 · 2014-06-16T19:57:05+00:00

Question to fellow TRP guys, have you ever lied about being divorced?

Example: Telling women you're divorced when you've in fact never been married? Curious to see what results you've gotten from it.

WTF7777777 · 2014-06-16T15:43:57+00:00

First of all most woman don't like beards. Second of all divorce for men couldn't possibly be as attractive as a man who has remained a bacherlor for the first 35 years of his life, why? He has half his money and income and baggage, like kids! So I don't buy your theory. Women are going to hop on the bachelor cock a lot faster then a bitter divorced dude. And as my ex wife found out, the 3 times divorced douche bag alpha she dumped me for turned out to be broke and not willing to marry her. On top of that he cheated on her. Why? because he could, he's an alpha. Besides, women automatically think the man did something wrong to bring on the divorce because women know women do no wrong.

scottishredpill · 2014-06-16T15:05:39+00:00

Hmm, I've never used the fact I am divorced when gaming. One to remember when I get bored of my LTR and start plate spinning again.

vengefully_yours · 2014-06-17T04:28:00+00:00

Never thought of it that way, but looking back at recent events, and events twenty years ago, fuck me it sounds about right. You made a commitment before, so you might again. Also, there could be something to the good man back on the market thing.

Might have to see about some strange ONS poon this week.

A17360 · 2014-06-18T01:28:27+00:00

Women hate it when I tell them outright that I'm divorced. Their panties drop when they hear it from their (female) friends, especially when they hear that I initiated the divorce. Draw your own conclusions ;)

Title	Being Divorced is a Status Symbol
Author	CarlsPudding
Upvotes	110
Comments	125
Date	June 16, 2014 1:12 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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