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[–]CrazyHorseInvincible[M] [score hidden] 8 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
No polling. Not a personalized question.
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I suspected it many years before I even ran across PUA or TRP.
I was orbiting my oneitis and somehow managed to fuck her 18 year old neighbour on a regular basis. I was 30 and my oneitis was 20.
One thing led to another and I started fucking another girl who grew very much interested in becoming my girlfriend. That's what finally "broke" my oneitis and made her approach me and tell me to fuck her and get into a relationship with her. Bluepilled as I was I thought I finally managed to beat my fate. Little did I know. Million of red flags I ignored would later pay off. Not in a good way.
Years later, after we had a daughter together and had already split, I wanted to make change for my life and also wanted to learn how to deal with my ex in a masculine and sovereign way, for the benefits of our mutual daughter, because things often ended in getting angry.
This ultimately led me here and everything I read made sense from the very beginning. Those were things I always suspected, but didn't want to acknowledge either because of convenience or because of disneyesque delusion.
[–]-Frank1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How long has it been?
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Since what? My daughter is nearly 10 years old. I
[–]-Frank0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Since trp
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dunno exactly. Three years?
[–]JakarrSlamson17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Watching womens interest in me skyrocket after wearing clothes that show off more muscle, making money, faking confidence in public, even growing taller.
Had always been athletic, smart w/ good drive, and confident, but none of that matters without external proof. Personality remained constant. Learned everything really is all artificial.
Swallowed the pill. Currently stuck between abusing it or just recognizing it. Hedonism or stoicism. Probably a mix of both.
[–]meaningintragedy2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Growing taller?
[–]JakarrSlamson0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, was really short my fresh year in hs (like 5'7") , then grew to about 6 foot by senior year. Then over 4 years in college I grew another 3 inches.
[–]TheTittyBurglar 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Damn nice late growth spurt you got
I've grown 8 inches since 8th grade lets hope it keeps going
[–]JakarrSlamson0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Funny i was an undersized guard who got little PT on my 8th grade basketball team and now Im the only one from the class who can dunk. When you hit Puberty IMO is one of the biggest factors in your social success in high school because it determines whether you're able to be the best on sports teams and, as a result, meet lots of friends, which would lead to parties and hangouts outside school, which would lead to girls.
[–]meaningintragedy1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow you're one lucky motherfucker. Enjoy!
[–]kingofshapes1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That choice between hedonism or stoicism is hitting me pretty hard. It's a good feeling being able to switch between both though. I just don't think switching between the two is going to pan out in the long run. I have that same feeling mate.
[–]ECoast_Man2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's sort of a cliche, but this is the sort of thing that resolves itself with age and experience. Essentially, you are going to go through relatively quick cycles when you're in your 20s. One year you're into the pick up thing, the next into LTRs because no degeneracy.
When you're older, you will have self-actualized and figured out what's best for you. I was almost pure plating and ONS in my 20s with only a few spats of LTR. I'm a pair and a spare kind of guy in my 30s. I like having a good plated slut to fuck on the regular as a spare, and the pair is two girls that are in possible upgrade to LTR or (being entirely honest, I don't mind "cheating") LTR. I just don't have the time for the ONS very frequently anymore.
This might change in my 40s, but self-actualization takes a long time and I would argue it's fluid.
[–]JakarrSlamson1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it's tough. I don't want to grow old and think that I was a terrible person, but I also don't want to grow old and think that I never allowed myself to have fun.
[–]AwakenedSovereign12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was in a pretty 'ideal' relationship for 5+ years.. ideal on paper. We had plenty of sex. She loved me and was loyal but she was very unhappy as a person, I couldn't quite figure out why. She blamed her job and I blamed her for bringing it home.
Truth is she had crushingly low self-esteem and we were with eachother because it was safe. Codependant as fuck. Found out well after the breakup she would complain to her friends about what a loser I was, even though that made her feel like a bigger loser for not being able to do better.
Anyways, I got it in my head that I wanted better sex. We fucked alot and I would get mine but she never orgasmed (except towards the end after TRP and dread). Also had to use lube alot. This bothered me even though I was getting off and she was otherwise submissive and sexually available. A gilded cage. Something was wrong, like a splinter in my mind.
So I went on /r/deadbedrooms, and from there, found TRP and broke up with her. 2+ years now
I don't think I finished taking my medicine until this recent ex though. I LTR'd a slut and got cheated on. That hurt, but it needed to happen, because I was just trying to use TRP skills to seduce & maintain my fairytale unicorn.
Very interested to see what the next 2 years are like
[–]tacko2769 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Found the wife flirting with another guy via text. Went to marriage counseling. Which was a joke. Started reading PUA and NLP etc..... Less then 2 years later find her texting an ex. And here I am
[–]fakefalse0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's your next move?
[–]tacko2760 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put a few posts up few posts if you wanna read the saga called her out on some shit. Told her if she acts like she doesn't give a fuck why should I bla bla bla. blew her off when I went out of town for work Basically lifting Side bar not giving a fuck And shutting the fuck up
[–]1wakethfkupneo8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I have a headache", "I'm really tired", "Not tonight" over and over and over again ... from my wife obviously, after 10ish years of marriage. Back in my youth days I've always heard of this happening to many married guys - my rough guess back then would be probably 1/3 or something, little did I know it was close to 100%. Thought that would never happen to me, my wife was different, we're soulmates. In the end I only lasted a little longer than the average, but that was it: a bit more ride before the inevitable happened.
Naturally I did what men usually do when they have a problem and started looking for answers. Went a long way from depressive marriage forums, to Athol Kay's MMSL (I don't really think high of him now, but that book is solid introduction to Red Pill), to PUA sites/forums, to reddit's seduction forum, until one day some good guy pointed out to TRP.
Took me few visits to really swallow the bitter pill and outrageous truths they were preaching, but when so many different guys explain what's happening to you and what she's saying, what you're thinking ... as if they were living with you the whole time - then you can no longer ignore it. You can be angry and hurt and frightened, but you can no longer unsee what has been seen. Eventually you come back, bite and start chewing. In time the bitterness is gone, you get numb and than it's just tasteless. After some time you realize that the laws of RP are reliable, almost like laws of physics - meaning you can do something about it, counting on it (if X then Y every time) ... and then it starts getting sweet.
[–]ECoast_Man6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Two things:
1) This event occurred a long time ago. I was sort of a natural at gaming and was varsity athlete. A massively beta-fied acquaintance once bore witness to me being with Girl A for a couple of months who then took off to travel. Then I hooked up the next day with Girl B who was friends with Girl A. I then overheard him comment, "Ecoast_man must have a huge dick" to someone after a bunch of drinks. This confused me at the time, first of all because I don't have a huge dick, average size. But more importantly this guy was not objectively worse looking than me, and he couldn't pull for shit. It was then I realized there were two sorts of men, and it wasn't entirely based on looks alone;
2) Hooked up with a chick (repeatedly) and she never led on she had a boyfriend, but this boyfriend would call constantly. I figured it was an ex, and didn't care. Fucked her once after one of these calls (she always took the calls, I just didn't care), and she commented, "I really needed that". We went to bed that night and I saw laptop was open to her FB messages and she had just typed. "I love you" to this guy. This was a major development for me, and it was the defining moment that sexual strategy is amoral.
[–]quicklogaccount5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I grew dependent on my ex's validation through sex and she dosed it carefully. She could easily manage my anger and frustration by acting passive aggressive and causing me to lose my temper and apologize, ultimately agreeing to anything she said so she'd fuck me.
Someday my frustration grew a tidbit too big and I sort of snapped. I found TRP by researching whether cheating on her would make me feel better or not.
[–]dontbedenied4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ex girlfriend being more interested in a married man than me
[–]Hmonte14 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My grandma , my MOTHER, my uncle (who was like my grand father on my dads side) all died one after another in the space of 4 months starting in late 2015.
Then a few months later in 2016 one of my businesses and main source(60%) of my income also went belly up.
Then a few months later my self centered bitch of an ex girlfriend sensed a declining alpha and left my ass.
Then in march my landlord give me the 60 day notice that i was being kicked me out of my place i was renting from him (at a great deal too ) because he wanted to live there again and move his girlfriend in.
Rock bottom.
So from august of 2015 till about april of this year was the worst time of my life.
I've seriously considered killing myself so many times in the past year that I cant even count. But, I decided to tough it out.. moved to a new city, almost completely started over. Back working out, got a new job and a bunch of new tail in my life already... and though im not 100% back to where I was, Im finding my way.
[–]rmcassio1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry to what happened to you bro, life isn't fair after all, shit just happens. Keep it up, no matter what. New days, new possibilities.
[–]Hmonte11 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thabks bro the worat i feel is behind me. Moving has been great for me this far. Im not down about what happened to me ... cant worry bout the past that just gets u depressed
[–]Docbear644 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was in a relationship with a highschool sweetheart for 6 years, that relationship lasted longer than some marriages of people I know . I did everything " right" and was unhappy . I slept with a prostitute before I ended our relationship and really embraced that a complete stranger who only interacted with me for money was far more enjoyable then this woman I'd essentially grown up with , had many significant firsts with , and who everyone told me they " just knew I'd marry " .
The question that stuck in my mind was " why" ? after that " why was I with her" , if I couldn't or didn't want to have sex with her anymore, if I couldn't stand being around her anymore, if seeing her became a chore .....then why ? why the fuck was I doing any of this relationship shit anymore?
I hadn't quite swallowed the redpill but that's the first time I started to get an inkling of it , the " splinter in the mind" so to speak .
[–]SisyphosOnTop2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First LTR cheated on me. Years later I thought I found the love of my life. She didn't. Brought me two years of depression. Basically monk mode without the self-improvement.. I will never get those years of my twenties back but now my eyes are open for the rest of my life.
[–]FromTheCaveIntoLight2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
crushed after my ex of 3 years left me. stumbled upon this community and it has made me a much better man in the last 10 months. ive learned a lot and will not make the same mistakes i have in the past.
[–]AvengerSentinel2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had super oneitis for this girl so I embarked on a path of radical self-improvement to try to win her over (didn't work). After things didn't pan out between us, I went into Monk Mode. I googled "Do girlfriends slow you down?" and came across an excellent post on the TRP. I've stuck around ever since.
Some red-pill truths I've come to realize on my own, but being a part of this group definitely enlightened me and supplied me with information I would've never come across (except through difficult, bitter experience).
[–]SocietalEngineering2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Walking around the mall and other public gathering places every Saturday as a kid for 5 or 6 years and realizing that I had never ever witnessed a true cold approach. None of my friends could cold approach. Beautiful women that I knew claimed to never have been approached.
I approached girls just to strike up a conversation, and I looked like a god damn God to men and women alike.
And that's when I realized that society is sick. We have, as a culture, taken the black pill of feminism - destroying masculinity and femininity alike.
The only cure is the redpill.
[–]DaddyIssues62 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love talking about this because it's both a blessing and traumatic; was with a high school sweetheart well into my early college years (5 years). She had crushing anxiety and subtle BPD. She loved me to death but anytime I would lift off my attention from her, she'd be the clingiest person on the face of he planet.
I learned to deal with it. She never had her lifeplanned out to the slightest whereas I had school and work to think about; I had to bring money to the table. This made it harder for me to commit to her every whim and so, she became so self absorbed to her own loneliness she couldn't take it. I broke it off once, however, it was temporary- BOOM found out she slept with a guy after hooking back up. This happened another 2 times, I took her back each time because I thought she couldn't control her feelings. After so much time away from her for school, she becomes more independent and has better grasp at life - all of sudden. It was super attractive and I told her we can try it again and do it right. Nope.
She blew me off. She had it in her he whole time. I never suspected she could be such a fucking slut demon one moment and just revert to an ideal human being the next. It made me realize that women will fuck with your emotions and they'll suffer nothing - they'll hop back to whatever dick they want.
I never want that to happen again
[–]_the_shape_1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bit of a long story, but in a nutshell, I was completely AF with a girl for a solid year, split apart, then returned to her out of pure scarcity and under the extreme misconception that I could easily pick up where I left off and use her as a cum dumpster on speed-dial.
The only way to do it (i.e. get back in her pants) was to go full-on BB (her demands, meaning I was operating completely within her frame) until I finally got what I wanted after 5 months of frustrating orbiting - then the pain really began, the slow soul-crushing pain of being a supplicating, inauthentic little punk-ass, settling for a lifeless relationship, dealing with constant paranoia and loads of disrespect, an entirely different dynamic than what we had when I was in full control.
The pill arrived at my doorstep more or less around the time that I accepted the whole thing to be my doing, that I deserved every drop of agony that came from that experience, but that I was determined to learn from it and greatly minimize, if not entirely remove, the possibility of ever making the same mistake(s).
[–]RedPandaRoyale1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think what made it click for me was realizing that I was the constant throughout all of my failed attempts at relationships, dating and success. Therefore, the change had to come from within. I spent my early life extremely codependent and placed huge expectations upon every one I dated and involved myself with and because bitter and resentful when they didn't live up to the standards I set for them. The main thing that first drew me to TRP was the realization that I needed to search internally for validation, as opposed to external sources. That once I was confident in myself the women would come. From there, once I was actually attractive to women, I learned the hard way that AWALT and that "She's not yours, its just your turn" is a reality. It's been a slow process, but a worthy one.
[–]assdiamond1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
After i quit smoking weed because i realized i was a loser i slowly got into TRP reading...was one of those dudes who was like "it has SOME good points." After my best friend fucked my oneitis the same night she said it was "wrong" to kiss me, I fully accepted redpill.
[–]tbishop19662 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ultra beta/orbiter. A couple weeks ago thought I was hitting it off with a woman and finally asked her out (to something she said she wanted to do). Two hours to get a reply of "oh I'm leaving for vacation that day". Past stuff I had read always said no attempt to reschedule means no interest and I became royally pissed off. Especially since we were talking about a half hour date and she didn't leave until the following day (yes displaying my betaness and oneitis).
Came across TRP with some Googling and a couple glasses of some nice Japanese whiskey. Liked what I read, liked the suggested reading and plain tired of screwing myself over. Like many here say, they can't help being who they are, but I can definitely change myself.
[–]Ta96450 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not having sex or being respected. But i found the pill after i sorted that out.
So im happy i did it on my own only to see im not the only one living this way
[–]raisins3142 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being skinny as fuck and crushed by a BPD chick and noticing disrespect from men.
Hit the weights hard as fuck and changed my attitude and came here.
[–]the-bro0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was Ugly and Obese throughout 'highschool' facing constant rejections from anyone I liked and bullying from anyone else. Got my heart broken by two different girls, one I crushed on for 4 years and one I crushed on for a year. Finally got slimmer and found a HB4 to mess around with but I was too BP with her and it eventually failed, I hit rock bottom there. I found TRP and all of it's wisdom soon after.. And 8 months later I still have much to learn, but am doing much better than I was.
[–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My last relationship turned into a dead bed room and I didn’t know what to do.
[–]banllama0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing broke me. I just wasn't getting the results with women I wanted and game forums and later trp was just a natural consequence of my desire to learn about women.
[–]GreenPiller0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mexican media is full of blue pill shit. I tried the whole flowers and niceness thing and it didn't work. Women were miserable around me, constantly fighting. I wasn't a rock, and I got cheated on constantly. This, along with other shit kinda broke my sanity. Reprogramming isn't easy.
[–]No_senses0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Got into an LTR at the age of 17 that ended up lasting 5 years. Backslid like hell during the latter half of the relationship and it ended. Found solvemygirlproblems.com and it was a wrap for me. Swallowed the pill like there was a gun to my head.
[–]shits_ville0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I got very sick and tired of being pushed around, ignored, manipulated, and made to do what everyone wants.
Seeing hypergamy and the female hamster IRL was a sobering moment. My ability to see through bullshit has improved so much.
I have a very long way to go.
[–]FlyingSexistPig0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Divorce and confusion for 2 years as to why it happened. Then I came here and read a story of hypotheticals. The hypotheticals matched my exact tale, and I was hooked.
[–]serious_bs0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
figuring out the whole SMV thing, higher value attracts, .. thought I made a major breakthrough no one ever discovered before. googled it and ended up here, of course everything made sense
[–]Eating-mushrooms 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shitty marriage, then found a girl I fell completely in love with. Thought we were perfect together and suddenly she left, no warning, just found her Chad and that was that. Became an orbiter, she claimed she still loved me and wanted to get back but always had some excuse and stayed with her "chad" no matter how bad their relationship was. Finally they broke up, and yet she still dated other men instead of me. Kept stringing me along, I was the beta orbiting fool for way too long. Finally said fuck it and started dating. Found a few girls that I didn't give a shit about, never texted, no gifts, only saw them to fuck because I still had oneitis and yet these girls were going crazy over me. Everything I was taught how to get a girl didn't work and what I was told not to do worked...like WTF?!! I started searching to see what was going on and found TRP. I had discovered the truth by accident, (you could say I was chewing on the pill) but then reading I realized why it works and learned what I was still doing wrong. I read The Rational Male and swallowed the rest of it. Interestingly it actually fixed my marriage. I stopped trying to please my wife, told her no all the time, took charge and started living the life I wanted and my wife fell back in love with me.
[–]jay_jay_man0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The "inner game" theories being shared by the PUA communities weren't enough for me and in my continued search I came across the red pill.
[–]Pitchfork51 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much when I was in 7th grade and started lifting and girls were more attracted to me.
[–]SoloAlbum0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was trying to "win" my wife back after we separated. I started following coach Corey Wayne religiously after someone suggested I binge watch his YouTube videos on the divorce subreddit. I'd heard of TRP as some fucked up community, but someone in Corey's comments had me curious enough to check it out.
I started using it to get her back and it worked amazingly well. She hooked up with someone though and now I'm here often to work hard improving myself.
It's a long process that requires far more experience before I can claim to have "swallowed" TRP, but I don't plan on slowing down anytime soon.
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Hidradenitis suppurativa during last year of high school
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