A Facebook Gem about "Nice Guys"

justnguyening · 2014-09-21T21:08:01+00:00

-Your friend, Deepthroat

hopethisgivesmegold · 2014-09-21T21:53:40+00:00

Every time I'm on Facebook I see posts like this. I'll read about two and a half sentences, remember that I can't stand most of these people, and wonder why I still have a Facebook. Then I furiously scroll past and read a stupid article about 12 reasons on why my best friends girlfriend is probably cheating on him.

Anyway, this was hard to read because of that. But, that last word made it all worth it.

neckdeepinshit · 2014-09-22T01:15:48+00:00

return of le facebook gems

accutane2 · 2014-09-22T01:27:57+00:00

Its fucking crazy to me how these people don't realize that "nice guys" are not upset that girls don't sleep with them. There fucking upset because they've been told one thing by society, be nice to women and they have realized the harsh reality, thats not what women respond positively too. I feel so fucking sorry for these dudes.

They get told one thing by girls and society, be a super nice guy! Gentlemen! Caring! Responsive! Maybe even a feminist! Then they see first hand that there methods do not work, and that women are not romantically interested in this.

And you know what happens to a guy that DARES to question it? Omg fucking butthurt nice guy virgin shitlord. Many of these men get brainwashed right back into the cycle and apologize for thinking that women might want something else, ya know, something that he has seen work for other guys , maybe stop being so fucking nice

Actions speak louder then words, a women can say she wants a sweet emotion guy that isn't afraid to open up. She can say this, but look at her actions. If she goes and spreads her legs for the complete OPPOSITE, can you really blame these dudes for getting upset?

But hey, keep at it guys! Don't be a misogynist and dare think a women might like something else than some guy who treats her like a princess!

Enjoy your sloppy 62nds bud.

shitsfuckedupalot · 2014-09-21T23:14:00+00:00

Being a "nice guy" is the lowest common denominator of being a guy. A day you don't get rained on is nice. Driving without traffic is nice. Its a step above shitty, but is still neutral. To sleep with someone, you should think that person is fucking fantastic. fantastic>>>!> nice

circlhat · 2014-09-21T23:57:08+00:00

But also being genuine is important. If something offends you, don't act unoffended just to get along, stand up for your beliefs.

circlhat · 2014-09-22T00:36:57+00:00

This is one scenario usually an reframing of a man's frustration by making it seem he is owned something when in fact he is confused as to why he isn't succeeding.

You assume that a guy that is too nice doesn't get laid or girls, this is incorrect. If a nice guy is unlucky enough to get a girl to sleep with him you best believe he is getting used.

I seen guys that would drive 4 hours to pick up his girlfriend a glass of milk, than get yelled at and abused and made fun of, while cheating with a asshole that treats her like crap.

The nice guy ask , "Why is it that I do everything for my girlfriend and she sleeps with a asshole"

Than he gets the same old feminist mindset, "You aren't really nice if you expect something in return"

This is not the answer to the question , "Why am I not getting laid for being nice", you see he is asking why he is not succeeding , and why guys that are asshole are. He doesn't think he is owed nor expects anything and that his problem.

I not saying girls Owe us anything, but you would be a fool to not demand something in return and be willing to walk away if you aren't getting what you want.

So you see the problem is not that they think they are entitled , but they don't demand anything and think they have to keep trying to convince someone, when in fact if they would just walk away they would find a good.

BlackhawkRogueNinjaX · 2014-09-21T22:35:52+00:00

This is bullshit; my best friend is the smartest, funniest, most generous guy I know, and he's never had a serious relationship because he's short, average looking and respectful to women... He's 30. Looks count for alot & a shitty attitude towards women go along way - don't lie to yourselves

anonymous_troll · 2014-09-22T04:46:52+00:00

Yawn. It's a nice rant and all, but it could have been boiled down to, "Don't put the pussy on a pedestal."

RichieFinn · 2014-09-22T09:54:55+00:00

No....just no.

This shit is so weak.

Go swallow the fucking r/TheRedPill before its too late.

akmetal · 2014-09-22T06:47:56+00:00

There is only one comment on this entire post about boundaries. Nice guys get friendzoned because they don't establish firm boundaries.

Harucifer · 2014-09-22T07:44:42+00:00

Hi, I work for RSD and would like to give my personal input on this one.

The first thing I'd like to point out is: being nice to everyone, will, indeed, increase your chances at getting laid. What exactly happens when you're nice to everyone? Well, you're more social! You're also putting the social part of your brain to work, and this will re-wire the way you're thinking, your body language, and if the girl you're intrested in notices you're really social, that proves to her you're high-quality. You'd be surprised how many guys actually don't even look to other people if they don't find them attractive, even when they're in a conversation. Of course sometimes a girl you're not intrested in will get the wrong message and might start hitting on you (happened to me just last night, by the way). But that's ok! Because it certainly has happened to you. Who here has never been friendzoned some way or another?

Being exclusivly nice to hot girls will also re-wire your thoughts and body language to a needy state. This is why RSD and other dating companies preach that you shouldn't go out to get girls: you should go out to have a good time (with your actual friends, make new friends, meet new people, enjoy and self-amuse yourself).

However there's a little flaw in this guy's logic. If you're ALWAYS a nice guy, eventually someone (maybe a lot of people actually) will just perceive you as a betamale, if you're being beta-nice. What I mean by this is, for example, paying drinks for the girl before she's proven to be good company to you (and this doesn't happen in the first 15 minutes of a conversation, where most guys will offer to pay for a drink). Heck, I haven't paid any girl a drink in a long ass time. Last time I had this sort of interaction it was the other way around. I made a bet of 2 dollars with a girl that a friend of mine wasn't gonna kiss some guy in 3 minutes. She lost and said "can I buy you a drink instead?" with a flirty look.

Also, most of the good stuff happens when you're just having a good time, and the bad stuff usually happens when you're crossing some sort of line here and start hurting someone's feelings.

Anyways, when having a good time, some girls will just show up and be interested in you. Then you used the preselection and social proof from those girls to get more girls. Then all of a sudden they're swarming over you. Preselection is the most powerfull tool you can ever have to seduce a girl, nowadays at least.

damnmaster · 2014-09-22T14:23:36+00:00

You can be a nice guy. But somewhere out there, there is a nice guy who can play the guitar.

backflipsben · 2014-09-24T00:24:16+00:00

Looks like someone on seddit reads JAC Secrets ;)

ShmorganShreeman · 2014-09-21T21:05:34+00:00

Wow, wasn't expecting that at the end. Great post though

timberwolvesguy · 2014-09-22T01:02:21+00:00

Being jealous doesn't mean you're a bad guy. Everyone gets jealous. You can't control it. Doesn't mean you're a bad person, it means you know what you want and are upset that someone else has what you want and you can't have it.

Locastor · 2014-09-22T04:35:50+00:00

Listen up you fucks, being a prick is of an identity with getting every girl you want. Being an asshole in general increases you [SIC] chances of getting the girl you want. If you are literally trying to be a jerk just to fucking get laid or get a benefriend, you are a fucking genius and need to YouTube vlog your life. Here are a few flawless conclusions I spotted.

First of all, if you're exclusively a dick to girls, you are 100% not a real asshole. Many of you don't even fucking notice you're only awful to girls you fucking want to put it inside of. BE A JACKOFF TO EVERYONE YOU MEET. This way everyone one [SIC SEMPER] will think of you as a horrible person and actually jealously covet your life more. The word will spread of your wicked deeds and people will have a badass image of you.

Second of all [SHOULD I EVEN BOTHER KEEPING COUNT? TAKE A WRITING CLASS, FACEBOOK POST DUDE], a lot [of?] you so called "dudebros" always fucking assume that the girl that accepted A2M from you or let you give it to her up the ass behind the Jamba Juice dumpster has some beta male friend, and the manlet they're complaining about you to doesn't receive even the slightest whiff of pussy soaked in your dominant Alpha semen from them. Yeah...TRUE! They are probably letting that person keep IMing them and accepting their gifts because you make them feel awful (aside from the brainblowing sex) and they need an emotional tampon to leak onto. And if you were truly extremely fucking douchey, you would tell her to shift all of her womanly nonsense over to Mr. Orbiter so you can just have 100% quality time when you're together.

And both [of?] these points bring me to my last fucking point, DON'T TRY TO BE AN ASSHOLE, TRY TO BE AN UP-MOUNTAIN-STREAM-JUMPING, ROCKET-PROPELLED, MILITARY-GRADE DOUCHECANOE! Being a real cuntnozzle is just one of the many qualities girls like in guys. However, girls also despise and hate guys that are nerdy, caring, introverted and trollish in appearance (I'll save the rant about how to get fucking jacked for another time). Try to be the fucking worst human being on the planet, and the girl of your dreams will leave your bedroom (having cooked you breakfast and ironed your shirts) leaking your mansyrup from between her legs at 7 AM on her own.

I really fucking hope a good amount of you guys see this and actually take it into consideration when the topic of "megabastards" shows up in any of your conversations. I would apologise for my grammatical errors here, but that would treble the wordcount of this post.

-The guy who peed in your gastank at that houseparty, Loca

BigSerg · 2014-09-21T22:36:52+00:00

Tl:dr

curtains20 · 2014-09-22T08:32:11+00:00

This post and about 75% of the comments in this thread make me wanna throw up. Go run around being alpha males.

Girls do like nice guys, if you don't think so it's because you have a twisted definition of what "nice" means.

Willem20 · 2014-09-22T09:48:12+00:00

It's great and he does have a point, but what is the benefit of this to /r/seduction? It is basically just a thread with guys agreeing with each other

nuuance · 2014-09-21T23:16:23+00:00

I can't see the image for some reason and get a blank. Alternate link?

marduv · 2014-09-22T03:46:35+00:00

just call me ... deepthroat http://youtu.be/1VUU0i3Nlig?t=30s

Ferinex · 2014-09-22T05:27:16+00:00

Sometimes I find myself doing the opposite. I'm an asshole to attractive women, especially if I think they are trying to take advantage of me. They are so used to being treated like flowers, it catches them off guard. I'm in a committed relationship though too, so I'm in a good place to behave that way.

ObyrenOfDorne · 2014-09-22T05:55:44+00:00

Tl;dr: Nice guy =/= good guy.

solarbang · 2014-09-22T08:49:26+00:00

The red pill would love this. Is this the set up for 40 year old virgin?

tksmase · 2014-09-22T09:55:03+00:00

That's somewhere between /r/cringe and /r/TumblrInAction. More to the right I suppose.

DaygameCoach · 2014-09-22T14:56:47+00:00

A woman wrote that?

piperson · 2014-09-22T18:43:16+00:00

People so misunderstand this subject. Nice guys are not "nice" as a strategy to getting what they want. They are nice...to everyone. The idea of having an strategy does not enter a nice guys mind. He is noce to girls he is not interested in as well as those that he is. Tough with the pretty girls, he does get hopes as anyone would. It's not the nice guy who is manipulative, it's the people and the girls that are often manipulative. They act like they are sincerely interested and only when they get what they want they show their true colors.

It's like telling a cook not to cook for his friends. A girl will act interested to get the food and then when she has eaten her fill does she show that she is really not interested in him for more than his food. A nice guy has to actually STOP being nice to everyone and judge people who are worthy of his kindness or not. He has to create strategies to NOT get used.

Terakahn · 2014-09-22T21:39:42+00:00

My personal takeaway from the whole nice guy thing. Being nice is fine assuming you don't have some ulterior motive. Which is rare. Its like buying someone a coffee with the expectation they'll invite you to a party. Be nice because you want to, not to get something from them. There are far far more effective ways to do that than being nice. I consider myself a pretty nice guy, but I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to help someone else at a personal loss. And I see a LOT of guys do that. My opinion is that you can trace it back to guys caring way too much about what other peoples opinions of them are. They do it to raise their image in their social circle. People also know when you're not genuine.

also, an unpopular opinion of mine is that being nice is overrated. We are a self interested species and people do what serves them. I'm occasionally nice to raise someone up because it makes me personally feel good. It's selfish help.

Ok I'm ranting. But I see nice guy articles daily. Nice guys complaining has gotten really old. =p

AllMenDrip · 2014-09-22T04:10:12+00:00

Genuinely nice guys get pussy because they are genuinely nice to anyone, interesting, intelligent and prefer to be honest than do the passive-aggressive behaviour. |They won't mind being friendzoned and will just look for another girl. The others who pretend to be nice do it especially to women in return for reward: they don't have anything to show except for their hypocritical behaviour.

profbetis · 2014-09-22T01:34:34+00:00

If you have to be told these things, then you most likely are going to change your ways non-genuinely, which is kind of pointless.

"Oh I need to start being nice to EVERYONE... okay cool NOW I'll get laid."

dREAMmuah · 2014-09-22T09:27:43+00:00

This whole thread is a big cringe.

niczar · 2014-09-22T05:15:09+00:00

That's not a gem. I tend to be nice to everyone. I have to force myself NOT to be to pick up girls. In fact my best pick-ups were with girls I was mean to by accident due to my ADHD.

some_guy0 · 2014-09-22T05:32:15+00:00

That's good one !! Will try to be great guy :)

woodenrazor · 2014-09-22T06:49:27+00:00

I really needed to see this, not gonna lie. thanks

solarbang · 2014-09-22T08:47:13+00:00

glug glug glug

dr_poop · 2014-09-22T02:40:41+00:00

Is this a thing we're doing now? Are we just proactively apologizing for grammar and spelling mistakes instead of proofreading our work.

Title	A Facebook Gem about "Nice Guys"
Author	Marki3zy
Upvotes	506
Comments	99
Date	September 21, 2014 8:58 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2h2d1i/a_facebook_gem_about_nice_guys/
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