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[–]Zebrahead033 99 points100 points101 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I tried a similar line on a date once. My date was like I like your confidence. But she was really saying that's good that you feel attractive even though you're not. Thanks Norma.
[–]The_King_Hudson 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That was a shit test you failed, but probably better it worked out that way.
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[–]fodstopher-greets-ye 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“I guess it’s a good thing you don’t do anything visually-dependent for a living”
[–]Charge36 104 points105 points106 points 4 years ago* (30 children) | Copy Link
Can you describe how they were "really into you"? Honestly that line sounds cringe as fuck and I wouldn't count on getting away with it with women who have a little self respect.
[–]obviouslybait 143 points144 points145 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
As a 30 year old guy, this is whole sub is comedy.
99% of this shit only works on 18-23 yo insecure college girls.
[–]Charge36 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm 33. There's some useful mindsets to be found here but there's a lot of garbage too.
[–]pacg 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
The surface structure caters to younger women; that’s true enough. But I think the underlying principle of holding frame is pretty stable. It’s not as if we stop having provocative opinions once we exit our twenties.
[–]obviouslybait 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's just that at 30 I don't want someone that requires provocative opinions to gain interest in me. I can be flirty and fun, but honestly just being positive is the best, I want to attract happy, fun, positive women, not insecure toxic women. Even just for sex it makes the whole ordeal not worth it. Don't let these people disturb your peace.
Frame I understand, confidence is real. Improving yourself is real, not financially (women could give two fucks how much money you have, unless you're ultra-rich or famous), but socially, fitness, health, hobbies and activities.
[–]pacg 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, I see where you're coming from. I've had an experience with a toxic woman. I learned a lot and grew a lot from the experience, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, lol!
I'm saying that in conversation, you'll inevitably run into a controversial topic where the impulse is to acquiesce to keep the peace. In those instances, I think it's better to hold frame and manage the topic forthrightly. It's not a shit test as such. It's an integrity test.
I like that you mentioned the money issue because I get floored at how many comments in this sub are guys complaining that you need to be a rich adonis to even meet women. I'm like, really? I see the exact opposite whenever I'm in public. In the extreme, even a hobo can find a receptive woman.
Putting game aside, the minimum requirements to be an acceptable dating prospect is a job, and a general sense of purpose. Hygiene doesn't necessarily disqualify a guy either. A friend of mine was great with women despite the constant razzing he got about his muskiness. He always managed to find foxy women who dug his manly scent.
[–]Candyman44 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If your over 30 you know enough not to shit where you eat and wouldn’t be saying that to Coworkers
[–]bokonator 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Tbh if she's shit testing you then she's not worth it.
[–]pacg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In principle I agree. But I do appreciate the challenge of a good shit test to maintain my mental acuity. A shit test can come from a client, a colleague, a boss, etc. Shucks, I had a recent client playing some funky passive aggressive game that tested my ability to maintain frame. That jerk, lol!
That said, I do like a woman with a little edge to her—but not too much! I've already been down that gravelly road, and at the end of it lies the cul-de-sac of madness.
[–]bokonator 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That jerk
[–]cutanddried 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Provacative opinions, lol
This sub really is garbage now
[–]pacg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
All right. Present your objection. Surely there’s more to it than “this sub is garbage.”
[–]cutanddried 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Mostly the fact that you think anything about this made up story is provacative.
But also the insinuation that older people haven't already figured an approach and engage style, it that we do not posses the confidence to be provacative. Reads like a 20 year old placating kid.
[–]pacg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What leads you to think the post is made up? I've been there when friends have played this game, usually when they're a little drunk and loosened up. Wait—lemme, guess. You went into the OP's history and discovered a pattern of exaggerations.
Older people do have more confidence. That's for sure. I'll say what's on my mind and leave it at that; take it or leave it. I dropped a couple turkeys in conversation last week; don't care. If anything it was amusing.
[–]cutanddried 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your assumption is off, I didn't look at anyone's Hx.
And I'm surprised you are calling yourself old.
Its your comment that sounded like a 20 y old kid talking about what it was like to be old - to me
[–]pacg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nevertheless, why do you think the OP’s experience isn’t genuine?
[–]cutanddried 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you can't pick up on sexually frustrated kids writing about how awesome they are then I don't know what to tell you man
...And it's already been deleted
A large majority of the posts and comments are just people trying to see if they can convince strangers they are having sex
[–]pacg1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I treat the posts as if they’re genuine. It’s easier that way. Plus it offers an opportunity to discuss fundamentals, like a writing prompt. If it’s way off I just nope out. Otherwise I have no interest in being a detective.
[–]KabalMain 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
With daddy issues, lol
[–]Faux_bog 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you mean there is a chance?
[–]Adadum 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're not wrong but when you're a guy at that similar age range and you want to have some dating/sex/relationship experience, you're gonna have to take the piss and deal with insecure girls until you meet a girl who has her shit together.
Of course, the problem is you can't tell what girl looks like she has her shit together or not so you're just gonna have to deal with it and we deal with it by knowing TWO rulebooks: 1st rulebook is the PUA/Fuckboy Bible, getting the girl's attention and peacocking. 2nd rulebook is the Gentleman's Bible, being a good boyfriend/husband.
As we should all know from experience, getting a girl/starting that relationship is a completely different skillset than maintaining a relationship.
Realistically, I will bet money that alot of dudes on this subreddit would legit make good boyfriends and husbands but are simply having trouble getting started on the skills to becoming that bf/husband and that's ok!
[–]rawr4me 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love your avatar 😂
[–]Sketches558 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I'm I don't mind 18-23 year olds.... I'm only 21 after all..
[–]Corsavis 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Promise? Lol
No I agree with you though, I don't know what kinda girl would go for a line like that, sounds creepy
[–]hazrat_unmad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah the whole confidence is everything. Try that with emotionally healthy late twenties or older women see what happens if you don't have anything to back that confidence up. Granted if you are attractive you might be able to bag few cougars.
[–]MegaManXanax 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sadly a significant number of those girls don’t outgrow that in their 20s
[–]FaithInStrangers94 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not just that but none of the lines I’ve ever seen here or in pickup in field videos have been anything more than cringeworthy and sound as though they were concocted by a horny 16 year old
I’m sure they work on certain types of girls, but I could never bring myself to use them.
To be honest I’m not sure why I still bother coming here
[–]schebobo180 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao I have to agree with you fam.
This sub does have some interesting posts sometimes, but alot of the stuff here is a little to close to pick up guy lines.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, someone with a self respect won't take shit.
[–]badabing654 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really into him= didn’t run away
[–]norwegiandoggo 122 points123 points124 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
You display many positive attributes by saying basically awful things as the first thing you say when you meet someone.
Etc. That's why it works.
[–]Mister-Noy 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. But also as OP indicated he is (1) attractive, (2) held his frame, while (3) being playful. OP doesn’t need our help, he got dis. Keep it up 👍🏾
[–]StereoFood 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kinda fucked up how the context of the statement is irrelevant and the human brain just goes “derp derp he’s confident so therefore attractive”
It’s so fucking stupid.
I’m certain that most of my female friends would be disgusted if someone made a statement like that, alright pal have fun saying that as you masturbate yourself to sleep
Confidence gets people too far in life but I think this community exaggerates it- or they’re just going for insecure women
[–]Delicious_Ad_1853 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, bad behavior can certainly work. We're taught that crime doesn't pay, but that's wishful thinking. Obviously it often does pay.
But you can also achieve your goals without shitting all over societal standards. I'll stick to the honorable road myself.
[–]24HoursADais 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I think both work as well. "Bad" lines have risks as well but could be rewarding I suppose
[–]Turbopre2 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you're attractive/confident enough you can say anything to a woman and she will like it.
[–]ArezDracul 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You don’t have to be attractive ether, confidence and a great sense of humor is enough. I had this friend in the Corp, not attractive at all, in fact dude was short and pudgy looking, but man, the dude would hook up with attractive females. All because he had game, and could make them laugh even when talking dirty to them or saying something offensive that would get the rest of us a slap in the face.
[–]Turbopre2 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Game is everything.
[–]hazrat_unmad 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the comedy rule "the joke has to be more funny than it is as offensive" applies. You have to be more attractive than you are being offensive.
[–]elusiveclownface 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much 😊
[–]PuroPincheGains 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So how many of these girls did you bang?
[–]SpookyKG 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure - maybe you will do well with women who are into that kind of guy and language.
I am not interested in women who are into that kind of guy and language, tbh.
To each their own.
[–]Chicagoj1563 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Looks most likely had little or nothing to do with it. Women get attracted to guys who stand out from the rest and convey alpha like behaviors. So, saying that line could have conveyed those things.
In general, you can practice saying things like this and see if you can recover form it. Tone it down if you can't. Turn it up if you can. If it backfires, just say "I was just kidding" and change the subject. In other words, just calibrate.
Thing to remember is that every girl or group of girls may react differently. So, don't expect this to always work. Learn to calibrate to the person or group you are talking to.
[–]skatinislife446 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s called polarization and it works a lot better if you’re goodlooking. Prime example of “it’s not what you say, but how you say it.”
[–]Distraughtsugardaddy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Out of curiosity how did you become more of a “bad boy” , what are u doing differently now? Any example ?
[–]EllyCK 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would've slapped your ass out, and i'm 20F, sooo..... I mean, maybe It work if you're kinda immature? IDK. 100% It doesn't work with a grown woman.
[–]poly_nerdy_panda 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't use cheesy verbals unless it's congruent to who you are as a person. For example, I'm an artist, photography, etc, and will tell girls to let me draw them like a french girl. this hints at being sexual without being overly gamey. if she responds baddly to that comment I don't want her anyways because i'm always playful with sex jokes even with friends i would never fuck
[+]CocoBabeNYC -21 points-20 points-19 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
That might be a bit much. But you can say "I want you to be my new girlfriend".
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[–]NotThatSlick 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t overthink it bud. You’re attractive and confident enough to get away with it.
Doubting yourself will kill your confidence
[–]Exmerus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would add: never ask a girl for something to happen between you (relationships,sexually). The great majority want it to happen, but don't want to hear it beforehand. They love the fantasy of thinking that things just happened by themselves.
[–]geardluffy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn bro, dishing out practical advice like you’re serving soup at a soup kitchen. If you don’t mind, can I ask you for your opinion on a date?
[–]geardluffy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There’s this girl I’m interested in and I’m thinking of asking her out on a date. We really haven’t gotten to a point where we’re on an intimate level or anything but I do want to test the waters to see if we vibe. I think she’s kinda interested as well.
I’m not sure if I should take her out to a restaurant (we were talking about good tacos so I was thinking of taking her to a restaurant that has good ones) or if I should choose an activity. Some people have suggested going to a bar but that sounds so cliche and low effort, not too sure if I’m just overthinking things.
[–]yehhey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s so obviously sarcasm and if you deliver it right then they’ll know that. “New” implies its not serious, I’ve seen people use this line to success.
[–]rvyas619 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What’s the context of “women belong to me”?
[–]InfinityRelia 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m Black this will get me convicted 😂
[–]GeniusArtist 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What was it?
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