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[–][deleted] 94 points95 points96 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
How much work we gotta do even after getting matched. I think I should give up online dating and start interacting with women in real life.
[–]Nimexu 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
The real answer 👆🏿
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’d also grab a book called How to Be a 3% Man by Corey Wayne. It breaks down a lot of step by step tips of getting women from the first time you meet them, all the way through to maintaining a relationship if that’s what you’re looking for later on.
[–]derpmaciaa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why does that lunatic keep saying to read his book 20 times and follow him for 5 years ? Makes that coach Wayne seem sketch to me 🤨
[–]random_question4123 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Much harder, especially in a pandemic post-me too era. Girls don’t want to be harassed / flirted on by strangers while trying to get on their day. Dating apps are the only place where they give the strongest hints possible (a right swipe) that they’re interested.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Girls don’t want to be harassed / flirted on by strangers while trying to get on their day.
Maybe it's just you, but for real, so long as you ain't creepy, it's all good. At this point I'd rather walk on cactus than use any dating apps.
[–]random_question4123 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not me, I do fine. If anything, I tend to overcompensate due to the creepiness of other guys they could have possibly encountered.
I’m just trying to think of scenarios nowadays where you can first disarm the girl long enough to talk to you, open up to you and give you her number with the hopes that you call her for something romantic. Being good looking definitely helps, sure, but then good looking guys do even better on the apps.
[–]Supersquigi 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People have met face to face since the beginning of time and will continue to forever after. You must use all the tools available to increase your chances.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well that's understandable alot of women do get harassed, bcoz of some stupid chumps who don't no the definition of a NO.
[–]celio961 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How insightful and inaccurate
[–]random_question4123 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not everyone can compete with your post that is so insightful and full of knowledge. Thank you, you really made me change my mind with your information provided.
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[–]random_question4123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol. I’ll leave you to it then to continue with whatever you spend your day doing, contributing to society and whatnot.
[–]Aonghus_Radner 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Start the Convo with "so when are we having our first date :)" saw it on another post from this Reddit works every time for me.
[–]Condor-man3000 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I really think asking them early is key.
[–]James_Bob_007 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No
Level 1: not asking them out Level 2: asking them out right away Level 3: asking them out after a few messages consisted of a good opener, a witty conversation and some light flirting
[–]sippycupjoe 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I give that process two hours at most to mature, after that, games are being played.
[–]James_Bob_007 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women don't respond to linear predictable conversations.
A fun topic, a serious topic, a fun topic => let's go out, is a way better way to go.
Unless you look like Brad Pitt or if you are filthy rich, flat short convo won't get you too far. Especially among 30+ women who are looking for something serious.
Short convo might work among younger girls who are mostly up for fun and are looking for a random date/hookup tonight. (Paired with your good looks, of course)
[–]Aonghus_Radner 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely and it makes you stand out vs being the dude who's like oh your pretty or commenting the same thing every other dude comments when they read their bio/see their pictures.
[–]LocalPawnshop 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my opinion there’s nothing you can do that’ll turn matches into dates. Most of them want to meet up from around the start while others will just continue dry meaningless conversation because they want validation or they are into someone else more than you. Personally I ask them after a couple days and how they respond is very telling in my opinion. This is the main reason I’m quitting dating apps.
[–]Condor-man3000 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, I will ask if they want to go out on Tuesday for dinner and in most cases they accept. Don't be a dumbass and ask the fifty questions via text. Be funny, be cute...then ask them out for coffee or drinks or dinner. Do it quick. Most of the time you text way too long or are not personable in your texts.
Also, you can't limp in when you text. Think about what you are going to say. You will get way better results with a quality response to 5 girls than a generic no thought response to 20. Be unique and genuine.
I am 44, so age can be a factor. I have found 30-40's don't enjoy penpals.
[–]crowbarguy92 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do you do the texts personable? Any tips on making the texts fun and playful?
[–]Condor-man3000 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The key is to be unique and mention something that you think they want to talk about.
Find something you have in common: "live concerts" and start off by telling her something about you that indicates you have a fun life. "I just went to "blank" concert last week and saw that you love live music, what was your last concert, and who would you love to see?
If they bite on that I will look at local shows, small venues...tell them I am going and see if they would like to come with. Any local artist will be a good date, you don't have to know them. Pro-tip: I don't buy the tickets until they say yes though.
If you can't get anything from the bio. comment on something obscure in their pictures. I love commenting on background objects: oh hey! We have the same coffee pot! See sooo much in common already!"
If you are going to comment on looks etc...don't be generic. My ex had neck tattoos and every guy commented on them. It's new for you...very old for her. Write a nice few sentences. If they put a little time in reading your opening they will be more apt to respond.
Quality over Quantity is the game.
[–]the_boss_jos007 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha same bro. I have had my tinder 2 weeks with 160 matches. Like 20 Snapchats and….0 dates lol 😂 😂😂😂
[–]Nimexu 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol 160 matches bud. Let me know if u get a date 😂
[–]the_boss_jos007 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not a single one to be honest. The funny thing is this was my first successful tinder ever. Good pics and all. Honestly I am a good looking dude. I am not a greek god by any means but yeah looks do help, still fucking hate tinder lol
[–]Nimexu 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha then if u can’t pass then we should lose hope
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are lucky, I got three mathes and the girls I matched up with were not at all enthusiastic, I bet one of them didn't even know how to talk but because she had stylish pics in profile was getting hit on by every other guy.
[–]the_boss_jos007 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
https://imgur.com/a/aahZjUc
[–]Aonghus_Radner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Damn I'm surprised I take back what I said do you pay for premium? From other people experiences average is about like 5 matches a week from other post.
[–]the_boss_jos007 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I had Tinder Gold. Biggest waste of money ever though. Once it expires I am deleting it and just approach in real life.
[–]the_boss_jos007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are correct. My game is terrible lol. I admit. Trying to get better but not exactly sure how if I am honest
[–]Aonghus_Radner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Understandable and that probably helps with getting matches/being seen more. I don't pay for premium personally I get about one match a day my main is hinge tho in the sense of what works. I am successful though with actually going on dates my starter message is "so when are we having our first date :)" that works for me maybe you should give that a try learned it from someone on this Reddit have never gotten a bad response.
[–]the_boss_jos007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I will definitely try that haha. See where it goes. Thank you!
[–]leelbeach 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
160!!!!
[–]Aonghus_Radner -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Post a pic or it's not true those numbers are unrealistic with how tinder algorithm works my guy.
[–]I_Donald_Trump 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s not unrealistic you’re just ugly
[–]Aonghus_Radner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually do modeling my guy but ok. On the free version of tinder they cap how many matches you get to see with in a day and your daily visibility. Look it up they also purposely show you more every 2 weeks to peak your interest again to make you trapped/want to pay for premiums.
I have the screenshot but how do I post a pic comment?
[–]Aonghus_Radner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]vorter 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have a few hundred matches across Tinder and Bumble but never got to the point of meeting up for a date even once. Managed 5 dates out of ~100 matches on Hinge. People are more serious on there and you can send messages with likes.
[–]NeatBeluga 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I got 4 matches from a month of gaming and got 2 dates
[–]daddysgotanew 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re a Chad. I’ve only gotten about 90 matches and 2 lays in a month since I redid my account and I’m a solid 7.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just ask them. I wouldn't call it a date as it puts pressure. Just say wanna go grab a drink or something, i'm free at this and this? Don't be too flexible, dont be a simp about it. Easy easy.
[–]Mistermistery101 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's good that you have matches. And I'm also assuming you're getting matches at a good rate continuously. That's also good. Tbh, the hard parts over. This is how you actually turn the matches into dates:
Always be intentional when you message a girl. What do you want from the dating app? You mentioned dating, so every message you send her should be with that in mind. Setting up a date asap. Which means you want to vet out any girl who will waste your time.
1st message: say hi and then give her a polarizing compliment in the same message. I won't give you guys exactly what I say because I 100% know that you guys will overuse it, ruining it's effectiveness for me. But here's a good example. " Hey what's up [girls name]. You know exactly what you're doing with those sexy pics in your bikini😈😈". The main idea here is to setup a intimate/sexual frame. This is like the first test to vet a girl out. If she has any type of legitimate interest or curiosity in you, she will respond. If not, she won't.
2nd: she'll say something back like "thank you" with some stupid heart emoji or something. From there ask her what her plans are for the week. Again, you want to do this as soon as possible. If she sets up her answer in a way where it seems like she has the schedule of a U.S president, she's done. In other words, if she's telling you that she has no free time, 2 things are happening. Either a, she really has no free time (and in that case there's no point waiting for her in the first place). Or B (which is what it will be for 90% of women) is that she's indirectly telling you that she's not trying to see you. Either case, she's done and you shouldn't pursue further.
3rd: if she responds with vague but open answers (meaning she has free time), tell her to text or snap you. Do not ask her for her number. Give her your number or snap and Tell her. This is important because now you gauging compliance which is correlated to how interested she is into you. Getting her off the site, quickly at that, will set you apart from most of the other guys she's talking to. But the 4th and final step will set you apart from damn near everyone. And I will explain why.
4th: This is the most important step. This step will be the difference between getting a flake and an actual date. You might still get flaked on, but the odds are lower without it. What you want to do once she texted you or snap you is this- ask her when she's free today to FaceTime (for iphone). If you're on snap ask her when she's free to video call. If she doesn't have 5 minutes to talk to you then drop her. She was never going to meet you in the first place. If she gives you a time, just set it up and call her at that time. From there, just flirt and vibe with her. This is important because you're giving her a taste of what she'll experience when she meets up with you. She's having an actual experience with you when she's talking to you via video call or FaceTime. When it's just texting, it's so easy for women to flake because women can't get attached or invested in guys they just met through text. It's through vibes. During that video call, ask her when she's free that week and set up a date. Now me personally, I always setup a date at my place because I'm in a phase of my life where I keep things casual. But since you yourself told me what you want is a date, setup a date at Starbucks or a bar. Somewhere cheap. The reasoning isn't to be a cheapskate. It's to be smart while dating. If she tells you that she's not free, and doesn't offer a specific day next week, just tell her to text or call you when she has time. From there don't hit her up again until she messages.you first. If she declined this week but gives you a counter date next week that works for you, set it up but understand it could end up being a flake. A good rule of thumb is that for girls you haven't met before yet, the farther away the date is .the more likely she is to flake.
That's pretty much it. Like I said, the fourth step is the most important, and also the step that people will be most afraid to do. But if you guys can swallow your ego and actually get her on a video call, and then setup a date during that video call, you'll be getting more success. Now of course if you're not used to talking on a video call or FaceTime, just practice. I mean you have the matches to practice with. Eventually you'll get better at being smooth while on the phone and will be getting dates left and right. Good luck
[–]truecrisis 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Would you expect a girl (you just met 5 minutes ago) to let you stick your dick in her?
There is an order of operations.
1) match
2) chat
3) text
4) phone
5) coffee 1st date (can be same time as 6)
6) dinner/darts/beach/pool/drinking
7) touching/pushing
8) dinner at home
9) cuddling/movie
10)???
Some steps can be skipped, like the phone call. Personally I like the call because it removes any nerves on the date of meeting, and I personally have a nice voice to hook them on (I'm told).
To get the date "hey let's get coffee" To get the phone call "hey let's do a call sometime"
[–]Emilio222 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sums it up pretty nicely. If you don't wanna connect with the person, of course you can skip steps, but your rate of success will plummet.
I can only talk for myself, but I'm more interested in forming good relations with someone either scoping in on a relationship or something casual.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So much of work to put in oof, would she bring anything valuable to the table even after all this. Don't mind but the steps you mentioned look to me like the steps to get an academic degree.
[–]truecrisis 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's not too much work.
It's the same as making a friend..
If we just met and you asked me to come to your place within 1 hour of meeting, I'd be weirded out.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nope but If I try too hard from arranging everything. Won't I come across as needy to you?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah take the charge of a bull like a cowboy !
[–]surfershane25 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? I would not do that and I’m a guy, imagine a woman’s apprehensions to doing that.
[–]surfershane25 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just wait til you get in a relationship, have a job, or kids… these 10 steps is nothing by comparison.
😶
[–]sam_phil 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's the difference between chat & text?
[–]jaywynn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chat via bumble and text via iMessage or WhatsApp?
[–]Woujo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The key with any kind of texting, including with Tinder, is to try to take the conversation somewhere deep and interesting so its stands out from her other conversations. Try to find something in her profile that is unique or interesting, and then somehow connect that with your own life. For example, if there is a picture of her surfing say something like "oh I love to surf, I have been doing it since I was 12." The more unique and interesting, the better.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
match
text
bar
bang
block
My order.
[–]Snakehead004 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy...... Pays therapy bills
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What an empty life to have lmao
[–]GotThaAcid5tab 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Matchtodateconverter.com
[–]FaithInStrangers94 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Since 2018
Around 3000 matches
500 conversations
100 numbers/ Instagrams
30 first dates
10 second dates
3 3rd dates
1 4th date
0 5th dates 💀
[–]South_ParkRepublican 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this sounds about right... forming a relationship with a random stranger online is difficult af... I have a similar breakdown as you except divide everything by like 2
[–]mandoa_sky 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
find a public activity you both like doing. arrange to do it.
[–]cravingsal 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just ask bro. i mean i get many people wont want to but some will. tbh i hate texting, so as soon someone asks me out it’s like thank god! sure
[–]erazedcitizen 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, just ask them how their day was or something related to their bio, and if you see an opening, ask them to meet in person over coffee or something.
I don’t get a ton of matches, and rarely get responses back, but once they actually talk, I can usually get dates out of it
[–]aStonedPanda94 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Start a normal conversation about their profile, if they don’t start it first. After a few fun messages back and forth, ask her if she’d like to meet up somewhere for a drink to get to know each other. That simple. If she says no or doesn’t respond she wasn’t worth your time.
No, it's not hard. You present yourself chivalry and as a man with honour and integrity. If you find her interesting you say so. And you do it with all the charm you can muster up, show her you have humour. If she is up for meeting, then that's a date.
It's not a game that you play to win at all cost. You simply do it to meet people. Good luck!
[–]fillfee 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
assuming you are male, you already put yourself above the other 90% of guys if you approach a girl in public and talk to her in public.
[–]Nimexu 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like the 5 women to talk to a day is a good idea I’m considering doing it
[–]MellowGuru 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I like someone i try to set up a phone call / video call. From there the step to meeting irl is much smaller. It helps a lot if they have already seen your energy and feel safe with you.
[–]Superb-Bank9899 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meet in public. Good for you and them.
[–]henlofr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t, just go out and meet people, it’s more fulfilling and way more fruitful.
[–]Casanova-Quinn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Open with light and fun banter. Keep the conversation brief, avoid dozens of back and forth messages. If she's receptive and giving good responses, suggest grabbing a drink and ask for her number. Then get off the app and setup the date via text.
[–]MarcellusxWallace 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just ask, if the conversation flows through text well enough.
“Fancy going out for food and/or drinks?”
Usually works. I’ve had 500+ matches in total and been on at least 15 dates. Definitely a numbers game
Say something witty when matched > banter > add on snap/text > “you seem fun to talk to, we should go out for __ > date
[–]jjboy91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your goal should be getting your match's number ASAP otherwise someone else will get in.
I have had tinder for about 4 years, have had a couple dozen matches over that time, and I have never went on a date or had sex with a girl who I didn’t know in real life. There were a couple of girls I knew in real life who matched with me on tinder and we got together. With girls I matched with and didn’t previously know, most of them never responded.
[–]ChurchofCaboose1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just ask. I asked the woman I've been seeing the last month within a few hours of us talking.
[–]brandosrealm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd say it's definitely subjective cause some girls will match you with lower interest so a lot of guys usually have to get their level of interest up through texting or calling
[–]mustafarian 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its kind of a delicate balance tbh. Some ppl on here say to ask out right away, while this is a good way to ensure that they want to go out with you. I don't think its giving you much of an advantage if they say yes for when the actual interaction occurs. And alot of girsl will just ignore u or be turned off by u asking immediately.
you sort of needs to build some basic convo with them, but also with doses of flirty. If they are responding well to all of these and by that I mean, yall have talked for one day with good interaction and frequency. Ask her out next day and should be good. This way atleast you know the date will be good convo and its not like you go to the date from ground zero. You've gotta get them excited to meet u or else, one, they will jsut go and use you for a drink and not hit u up again, or two it won't be productive for what you want out of it.
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