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omicronRex · 2021-09-24T05:17:25+00:00

You have to find your value dude. I'm also 5'5, avarage looking, but I dress super sharp.

I started dancing (Salsa, bachata, etc) and now that I'm really good at it, I can get any girl on the floor. Full stop. I actually think I have an advantage over tall guys cuz it is hard to do turns while holding some one way smaller than you are.

I'm not saying you should start dancing, I'm saying you should find something where you can exel. Good luck!

xxxpandoraxxx · 2021-09-24T05:02:57+00:00

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outsidecan8 · 2021-09-24T10:28:08+00:00

I think it's natural. We are all attracted to the very pretty girls. Just like they are with the very handsome men.

IntroMystique · 2021-09-24T09:12:59+00:00

This is something I find myself continuously dealing with.

I’ve always been attracted to girls that I’d consider above my standard.

My thinking has somewhat shifted over the past few months, however.

I find that you really have to find ways to increase your own value - both internally and externally.

I decided that it was time to be overly-critical of myself. What is making me feel bad about myself that I CAN change?

These factors are more physical than mental, however, your mental health is just as - if not more - important.

I started a skincare routine to clear up hyperpigmentation and scarring. I look so much more healthier in the face.

I’m naturally very slim so I started a new gym routine and I’ve put on a moderate amount of muscle mass.

I’m correcting bad posture with the help of a chiropractor.

I grew out some facial hair and keep it well kept.

I’m not currently on any dating apps, nor am I currently dating - for personal reasons - however, I experience a fairly substantial increase in interest and attraction from women on a day-to-day basis. Women that have never taken interest in me prior.

Women will talk to me more and be more open towards me. One thing I noticed was the amount of women that suddenly hold my gaze and give me a smile when I catch them looking at me. These sort of things. The only problem, and a fairly funny problem, is that I’m not very used to a lot of these subtle signs and interactions, so I won’t always react the right way. For example: I parked my car up yesterday and noticed a girl opposite me also getting out of her car. We both looked at each other and went on with our business. About 30 minutes later, we walk past one-another and as I look at her, she holds her gaze and smiles at me. Me - not being acute to these minor interactions - give her my most intense “resting-bitch-face” imaginable, and she was very attractive. I have a history of doing this but one day I’ll learn.

Correcting these aspects about myself helped immensely with my confidence and the way I perceive and carry myself. People pick up on this more than you’ll ever know.

We are all unique. We have to find ways to improve ourselves to the best of our abilities. Try not to allow one thing to hold you back. You mentioned your height, okay. I have things about myself that I consider very unattractive, but I also have some positive attributes.

Lastly, I want you to remember that looks can be immensely over-rated. It’s startling to me the amount of - what I deem as - “attractive” women that I have very little in common with. I’ll find someone attractive and find them immature, for example. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, but these things have been enough to make me become very un-attracted to some people.

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2021-09-24T12:33:25+00:00

level up, homie.

She IS NEVER out of your league, UNTIL YOU LEVEL(AND MAX OUT) ALL POSSIBLE SMV STATS(WITHIN REASON)...YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR LEAGUE TRULY IS.

MetaphysicPhilosophy · 2021-09-24T16:56:46+00:00

Dude, you’re a man. You are attracted to hot women, it’s in your nature. It doesn’t matter what you look like. It’s the same reason why fat, ugly chicks go after 6’5 guys with the face of Brad Pitt.

Regardless, I think you are being too picky. Even good looking guys sometimes end up with an average chick if she has a really good personality and habits. You have to ask yourself the question of whether you want to be happy or keep attempting to go after girls who will reject you. I’m not saying that no hot girls will be attracted to you (because they can be if you have really good game). What I’m saying is that if they aren’t, you should be accepting of that, and go after a girl who actually likes and respects you.

One of my old high school friends is similar to you in that he was very picky and wouldn’t even call celebrities like Kylie Jenner a 9-10. Funny thing was that he never had a gf, never kissed a girl, and was super awkward. Yet, he would literally have girls tell him he is hot asf. Dude was a waste of good looks lmao, and he is still the same to this day (21 yrs old).

I’m only telling you this because you get to make a few decisions in life before it’s over. You can probably end up getting much more pussy than my virgin, model friend if you actually put in the work. But you don’t want to make any decisions that limit your potential success like being super picky.

My advice would be to work on improving game and looks as much as possible and just attract the best you can. I think it’s obvious that you would much rather have somebody than nobody.

dontbanmeagaindudes · 2021-09-24T05:13:47+00:00

Leagues doesn't exist so go for it.

garrettcw18 · 2021-09-24T12:36:01+00:00

You’re self deprecating from the get-go with the title. Change the mindset and over time reality will follow.

TheSunshineMan · 2021-09-24T14:01:28+00:00

There's plenty of guys you're height who have slept with hundreds of women.

Fix everything you can.

Or not.

And stay exactly where you're at for the rest of your life.

the_bbutterfly · 2021-09-24T14:41:45+00:00

there is no girl way beyound your league

at least for me

2021-09-24T16:52:01+00:00

No one is out of your league. You just have to believe it.

I never thought fashion models would find me attractive untill I started approaching. Now I believe I can get any girl I want.

Stone-Cold-Advice · 2021-09-24T18:05:05+00:00

Nonsense. I am baffled that some men think that a woman is out of their league because...she's pretty??

That's not out of your league dude. It's just looks. It doesn't have much value unless you let it.

Work on your self confidence brotha.

Cmonsterfishing · 2021-09-24T18:09:34+00:00

You’ll never date or have sex with any of these hot girls, because you’ve already talked yourself out of it. Everything, beyond success, is an excuse.

ChromeBlossom · 2021-09-24T19:56:10+00:00

Hard truth? You are lazy and a coward. You have told yourself that you only want hot women, and that they do not want you. Conveniently this means that you will not have to make any work on yourself, you don’t have to make an effort to get to know people or to be a person who others enjoy being around.

You objectify women, and you project the problem on them (it’s their fault for not wanting me).

If you just want a trophy to show off to other men you don’t deserve a relationship. If you actually want a relationship with another human being you must stop being so superficial. Relationships are made between people, not between looks alone.

Your looks is not important. Your personality and how others perceive you is everything. And that is something that can be changed.

The question is not if you can convince women to be with you. The question is whether you are going to put in the effort to become a likeable person or not.

CapAnsonTemp · 2021-09-25T00:19:32+00:00

You have two basic problems:

You think that women care about looks as much as men. They do to some extent, but not anywhere near as much as guys.
1. You think your height and looks are a specific impediment, which again.. maybe height matters a little bit. But if you have game and confidence and go up to women without expecting an outcome, you're going to get women that think to themselves." Yeah I like tall guys.. but there's something about his confidence.. and I've never been with a short dude. That might be fun just for variety. Hmmm". They'll start thinking about it.

Women dont think logically.

Zealousideal_Ask_714 · 2021-09-24T11:46:42+00:00

Your mentality is SO unattractive. It probably affects your actions too. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get to work man.

blunt_eastwood · 2021-09-24T13:50:58+00:00

You know you can improve your attractiveness right? Start with the two F's: Fitness and fashion. If you really take those two on you'll find that your confidence will increase and attractive women will start to take notice.

Haunting-Discount156 · 2021-09-24T15:46:47+00:00

Yea I refuse to lower any standards, idk I'd say I'm a 7 myself lol

jupybacardi · 2021-09-24T16:34:31+00:00

That’s the first mistake. Thinking that they’re out of your league, just approach and talk to them.

Still_Statistician79 · 2021-09-24T17:56:22+00:00

Stop watching porn

Shadow__Account · 2021-09-24T18:09:06+00:00

Isn’t it nice to have something that pushes you to better yourself in order to get what you want ?

xdtla · 2021-09-25T01:47:06+00:00

"Why do I sweat when it's hot?"

ProfessorZoom80 · 2021-09-24T08:24:24+00:00

Maybe becouse they are Petty ? Ahahah You are far far more valuable than any girls on earth. You can improve ur body

Odd-Opening-3158 · 2021-09-24T10:07:10+00:00

Uh aren't you just an average normal guy? I mean, I thought all men liked attractive women. And all men like pretty or beautiful women. I don't think your chances are bad; women generally date beneath them whilst men date above them. It's the rule of the game. There are exceptions where wealth and fame are concerned. Look at all the hot male celebs; they only date models and other actors. The females are more likely to settle with average guys or non-actors because women in general value other characteristics. If they settle with someone rich, it's probably because they're also rich and you generally want to protect your assets not have them squandered.

When I was a little girl, old wives tales and old aunties would say, marry the guy who'll look after you not the good looking one who'll abandon you for someone hotter. I remember my aunt joking at a cousin's wedding: she married the short skinny guy not the other good looking fella. At least he won't stray. He is and has been a great husband and father, a good provider and a good partner in life.

I wouldn't put yourself down. I date a lot of short, round men. I personally like dark haired guys and I have a particular look I like but I have never dated men I am physically attracted to because I know that I'm way beneath their level so I stick with guys who will look at me and they tend to be friendlier, approachable etc and in the end it translates to affection because good looks don't last!

The only issue with targeting women for their looks... well if you pick any partner based solely on their looks, they may not necessarily have the best character. They may be more superficial or only want the same. I would say learn value personality and other characteristics too. Maybe you need more life experience and to grow up; I hear older guys say that when they're older they realise that a pretty face isn't enough. They want someone solid who is going to stay with them, be a life partner, and it's more interesting to be able to talk to a person who isn't guided just by appearances etc.

Perhaps you're not there yet if looks are really important to you? If so I guess you're either setting up yourself for failure or you will just have to be confident and try your luck.

Specializd1 · 2021-09-24T16:53:03+00:00

Everyone is attracted to beautiful women. Doesn’t mean you can pull them in.

ItsAmon · 2021-09-24T17:03:14+00:00

Let women decide if you're out of their league, don't do that yourself

CheekyBurgerr · 2021-09-24T18:31:00+00:00

They're not out of your league.

ParamedicEastern582 · 2021-09-24T17:28:34+00:00

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CoinTimeU · 2021-09-24T05:13:24+00:00

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl7jz0qNbH0

Papa_Musk · 2021-09-24T13:22:20+00:00

it's a market, improve your market value to get better women

ANOWI4 · 2021-09-24T17:01:10+00:00

Human beings tend to like what they can't have

gow_tinyd · 2021-09-24T17:33:16+00:00

Give it time.it passes .trust me

Leviathansplunge · 2021-09-24T18:29:05+00:00

Simple: humans want what they can't have, that includes men.

Imreallytired2301 · 2021-09-24T19:21:04+00:00

There's no such thing as "way beyond my league" I've had some tall pretty girlfriends in the past and I'm the same size as you, it comes down to confidence and personality and also adding muscle because short and lanky isn't going to help much that only works for taller guys but the bright side is shorter guys tend to build muscle faster, so either work on confidence and personality or get muscular

richietherich92 · 2021-09-24T19:30:18+00:00

It's all about your mindset bro. If you believe you're good enough, they will too. It's all about confidence.

To help build confidence, push yourself out of your comfort zone, work on your body by going to the gym, and refine your fashion (i.e. better looking shoes, fitted shirts, hair done well, etc.).

If height is a concern of yours, it really doesn't matter honestly to quality girls. I know it may not seem like it, especially with the narrative being pushed out on social media that a man must be 6'+, but that's just a bunch of crap. The ones who do care about height are not worth your time.

Good luck bro! You got this!

Shintaigou · 2021-09-24T19:53:19+00:00

I’m also 5’5 but my mentality is that if she isn’t a model she ain’t worth my time

kaazifreak · 2021-09-24T19:53:40+00:00

Consider what makes you valuable. Being physically attractive isn't the only thing that women look for, it can help, for sure, but if you don't have confidence in yourself, your already starting off handicapped to your own detriment

I'd also consider, why do you only see super attractive women as being the only ones you like? Are there habits you have that only puts these women in your radar?

Also, there are very attractive women that do get with dudes that are not attractive. It's possible, king

BubbaFnJay · 2021-09-24T20:03:20+00:00

There not out of your league they are out of your comfort zone. A woman likes confident man, she wants to be taken out. You plan everything. Show her confidence and tell her where your gonna take her.

whiplash81 · 2021-09-24T20:32:14+00:00

Your define what your "league" is in your own world.

I used to believe that there was this invisible class of attractive people who only interact with other attractive people, and my "league" was people below that line.

The truth is that attraction is subjective, and not a choice. This means women you find "attractive" may actually feel the same about you despite the "league" rules.

Learn how to be the best version of yourself, and it'll feel like magic when these "out of your league" women start finding you attractive.

ArmitageShanks69 · 2021-09-24T21:01:13+00:00

Any woman that won't date you is out of your league. End of debate.

bucketshire · 2021-09-24T21:11:23+00:00

'Successfull people ask better questions' Why you are attracted? Answer: Because its biologie. You want the best Girls for producing the best children. So instead asking silly questions, you should ask something like: how do I become a personality good enough to pull the hot girls? !!!

icakad · 2021-09-24T21:17:03+00:00

You don’t work on yourself and your growth. Try doing that and you might have more success. Look into personal development and if you need, take a course.

Interesting_You_6832 · 2021-09-24T22:14:31+00:00

Don’t worry bout looks if you got a good personality you can pull any girl I know from the amount of ugly mofos with sexy ass girls

2021-09-24T23:01:50+00:00

You’re attracted because that’s what you’re wired to be attracted to and there’s nothing wrong with that.

You think Mr Bean is good looking? Look at his wife.

In before “oh he’s rich and famous” - you need to broaden your understanding of female psychology. He has charisma and is funny. That pulls more women and holds them.

DiabolousAvocado · 2021-09-25T04:19:06+00:00

Leagues aren’t real, or at least, not in the way that we like to think they are.

Height only really impacts your odds if you’re into the female equivalents of dudebros. Outside of that, a lot of other factors come into play.

Get a good fashion sense, do a lot of physical work to lower the cortisol, develop hobbies related to studying the real world like science, languages, & history. & above all else, find women everywhere, but never on Facebook, as you’ll be outcompeted by angry hateful guys who complain about not getting sex all the time. Funny how on Facebook, it’s the biggest complainers & the biggest incels who get laid the most. It’s probably because those guys are toxic AF, & Facebook-addicted women are equally toxic, & this proves that there is someone for everyone, & who you attract is based often on how much toxicity you bring about. Be a toxic person & you’ll attract toxic people. Be a non toxic person & you’ll atttract non toxic people. You’ll eventually find that there’s someone for everyone & the real trick is being the right someone for a mature woman.

Unbiased1 · 2021-09-25T10:25:27+00:00

Bro I'm 5 7", also attracted to pretty women, and a lot of pretty women have been attracted to me. I feel that you're putting way too much emphasis on height, it isn't the be all and end all, I know you're not going to become confident overnight but try and realise your height isn't going to stop you from attracting pretty girls and you'll be one step closer👍

recyclablebanthas · 2021-09-25T10:46:50+00:00

Every girl I find attractive, is way beyond my league. How can I change that?

Unless you're willing to take a hard look at what's going on in your head and you're also willing to get in some arguments with yourself, you can't change this.

But if you're willing to consider the fact that we all have issues with negative self-talk, then you can start to get somewhere if you start questioning some of your assumptions here.

Attraction is subjective: if you get 10 people in a room and ask them who their 10s are, they won't be able to arrive at a concession. One person's 10 will be another person's 7 or 6.
As such, this idea of leagues is kind of in your head. We're talking about your own personal rating system there. Not some objective thing.
On a related note, your own ideas about how attractive you are, constitute your own personal rating of your looks. Not everyone will rate you as low as you appear to.
- Some people will even find you attractive but you won't notice because you'll be too busy preemptively rejecting yourself, assuming no one will be interested. (Which is unattractive, ironically.)

recyclablebanthas · 2021-09-25T10:48:27+00:00

This post had to be taken down because it goes against Rule 6: No Beginner Topics. I would recommend trying to read through some of the older posts on Seddit regarding inner game.

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