Should you keep approaching if you have a 100% failure rate?

wikid91 · 2018-11-08T18:48:18+00:00

Yes. You miss 100% of the chances you don't take. And right now, you'r 100%, so I'll say 20/20 fails just for a number. At 20, you're 100%. Do 60, 80, 100 don't stop, you learn something each times. Find confidence wherever you can, and never seem needy or vulnerable, you'll get it =)

boodie_1961 · 2018-11-08T19:05:16+00:00

You are very likely doing something wrong at some point. The first mistake I made and kept making for a long time, was to ignore the body language and dive head first into approaching girls that were not into me. My experience. If a girl doesn't give you signs of interest, there is no point in even trying. If she is, god forbid, giving signs of disinterest / discomfort stop any approach / pua routine and politely disengage. There are millions and millions of other women, the necessary requisite is to have the opportunity to meet as many of them as as possible and interact ...

Br00dlord · 2018-11-08T19:23:05+00:00

I'm doing pick-up for a year and a half. It was a month ago that I actually started getting dates/sex.

It ain't easy my friend. Perseverance is key.

k4riomio · 2018-11-09T09:39:58+00:00

When I first started with cold approaching I had 40+ rejections in 2 days. At the end of day two I went into a club and the first girl I approached there had sex with me in the same night.

On top of that the girl looked hotter than all the 40+ girls I talked to earlier

Never stop.

ModernWolfStrategies · 2018-11-08T21:46:22+00:00

Make sure that you are thinking about your approaches constructively. If you do the safe thing over and over again and fail 100 times without reflection then it’s definitely going to be a soul crushing experience.

Best way to look at it is to always give yourself credit for something you did well (ex: you went out, you approached someone, maybe you weren’t as anxious or afraid as the time before) and then look at one thing you could improve (ex: maybe your tonality was wrong, maybe your opener keeps starting you off on the wrong foot, maybe you’re talking too much). If you’re truely putting your all into this, then you’ve probably already experienced some growth whether you are conscious of it or not.

If you do something 40 times and it doesn’t work just alter some part of your approach. Don’t write the whole process off. If you need to take a break to get your mind frame right, take a break.

2018-11-08T21:56:27+00:00

Well if you've approached 5 girls and got rejected every time, yes, keep approaching.

If you've approached 100 girls and still haven't gotten at least some number closes you're going to have to take a step back and reevaluate yourself. Take a look at your physique, clothing, grooming, confidence. Ask yourself where you can improve.

K3wp · 2018-11-08T22:19:19+00:00

It's 80% fundamentals and if your fundamentals are shit you ain't getting nothing.

Indyrect4Lyfe · 2018-11-08T23:08:28+00:00

You're stopping a stranger who has no interest in you and asking for sex, which is an intimate sacrifice on the woman's part. If you actually think how crazy day-time cold approaching is, it makes one amazed how anyone could get laid from it. At clubs there is some social consensus about it.

Anyway, some guys soldier on for years without success and eventually have to give up due to old age. You have to decide how much time you are willing to invest in "self-improvement" and this type of "social experiment".

bluescreen420 · 2018-11-09T00:09:52+00:00

Ive done pick up for years, only once in 30 do I get successful approach and it lead anywhere.

ThrowawayPUA · 2018-11-08T23:11:14+00:00

You will have a 100% failure rate until the 1 time you succeed.

Wikkyd · 2018-11-09T01:47:25+00:00

Don't take it personally, you just may not be their type, they're not interested, or just not in a good mood.

Would you accept every offer of a girl asking you out? Probably not, and that's not anyone's fault, we all have our own reasons to be interested or not interested in someone.

wiseman_4u · 2018-11-09T03:05:21+00:00

Just keep surfing until you learn how to catch the wave, otherwise you'll never succeed.

Joan_Zeroz · 2018-11-09T04:30:22+00:00

I just did a video on this and it depends, we all have bad days even the most advanced guy in the world also has bad days, if this has happened to you a couple days, it Is ok, do not do harsh on yourself, BUT if this has happened to you for a week or more, more that 20 or 30 approaches, then you should stop and analyze whatever you are doing and calibrate better, you can ask to a wingman, etc.

Zeroz

Venusian_Artist · 2018-11-09T06:53:46+00:00

The definition of insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different outcome.

clavabot · 2018-11-09T12:24:26+00:00

The approch is victory ur 20/20 everytime u wanted to but didn't is a failure

SelfLoveArmy · 2018-11-09T14:51:40+00:00

Yes you should, but you really need to make the approaches meaningful. Intelligent action is 100x better than spam action without calibration. You need to be spending a LOT of time on self awareness, emotional growth, and understanding what is attractive from a woman's perspective. Also, I'd really recommend doing approaches that are designed to make the woman's day better, rather than get a number, until you get a sense of where the woman is at emotionally and start to develop a better understanding of empathetic awareness.

EDIT: that being said, fucking props on continuing to grind man. This journey gets really really good and pays off!

dailymanup · 2018-11-09T18:54:55+00:00

You definitely should. What else are you going to do to get the relationship you want. However try to make some improvements to yourself and your game first. Are you hitting the gym? How's your conversation. Check out this article on assumptions for interesting ways to open a girl. Also this one on the sexual frame for how to change the way you present yourself.

kurakaa · 2018-11-08T19:53:55+00:00

how do u actually approach? whats the frame? tell us some details

poopfeast180 · 2018-11-08T20:17:05+00:00

yes because nobody has 100% failure rate.

A_solo_tripper · 2018-11-09T00:01:13+00:00

Do field reports to find out exactly what your sticking points are so you can work on those points. From beginning to end. You determine what the beginning and end are. Usually, the beginning is the first interaction with the girl. The end is usually sex. Are you having trouble in the beginning? The middle? The end?

uniquan · 2018-11-09T02:16:58+00:00

I feel like am in the same boat. Let's see who gets a result first.

ericmint · 2018-11-08T18:57:57+00:00

Yes. Would Kobe bryant end a game shooting 0-10? No because he would shoot till he’s 1-178. That’s how winning is done

CollaterLDamage · 2018-11-08T19:47:59+00:00

Might as well try " Rules of the Game, by Neil Strauss. It's a 30 day challenge. I usually only reccomend it for basic confidence building but it's designed to help you get a date in 30 days.

Going out there and grinding every day means nothing if you don't learn from it. Try and figure out when do you lose them. Maybe you're closing too quick, maybe you aren't making her comfortable. Maybe you look like shit or your breath stinks. Beating a steel wall with a rubber mallet will get you nowhere. No matter how many times you do it. Focus on learning and tweaking. Don't just do the same thing over and over again.

Xis4sarcasm · 2018-11-08T23:48:37+00:00

Approaching is fun, I have like a 2-3% success rate even if it dropped to -4% I’d still do it because most interactions are amusing, and I’ve never regretted an approach

ihavesomefreetime · 2018-11-08T23:56:36+00:00

I mean this isn't ideal but maybe you could lower your standards. And if that doesn't work try and make friends with a random guy. If you can't make friends with another guy it's definitely your lack in communication skills, specifically making a conversation fun or interesting, and you should work on that. If you can make friends, then it's probably your intent. Also do field reports they help a lot.

Title	Should you keep approaching if you have a 100% failure rate?
Author	pentakiller19
Upvotes	15
Comments	60
Date	November 8, 2018 6:45 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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