In my humble opinion, text game is the great divider in online dating. Those who master it, see consistent and repeatable results for years to come. Those who neglect to, stay frustrated and keep complaining about how shallow and boring girls are on Tinder.
Now I’m not saying girls aren’t shallow, sometimes (or often) dry and boring on the apps. What I am saying is, it doesn’t matter. You can either complain, or adapt and start seeing results.
A lot of times in online dating and seduction communities you hear about “lines”. Specific words and sentences that reportedly have some magic effect on girls, but what I prefer are frameworks.
Instead of a specific line, you have a structure to build the entire interaction and conversation around, which makes it a lot easier to adapt to whatever the girl is saying. In this post, I’m going to give you my best framework for texting that I use in most of my interactions, that usually leads straight to a hookup! I’m not going to talk about the basic rules of texting, this guide assumes you have that down already (if you don’t, read my other posts or check out my website)
(All the following examples are from Tinder conversations that have led to hookups, the reason I haven't posted the screenshots is I live in Finland and the texts are in Finnish, which means 99% of you won't understand them. I have translated screenshots in my online dating guide for anyone interested)
THE FRAMEWORK: Investment -> Idea of Date -> Pullaway/Tease -> Escalation
1 - Investment
The conversation should always start off with building investment. Talk about things relevant to her and mix in some light flirting. This is best achieved by having hooks in your profile that make the girl ask questions about you as well, so it doesn’t feel one-sided or awkward. Pro tip: My current bio is literally: “If you know how to resurrect houseplants, hmu 🌱”. Nothing else. Sounds dumb, but it’s kinda funny, very relatable and a ton of girls open me talking about how they also have dead houseplants or how they could help me out etc. It’s also very easy to transition that into the “Idea of Date” which you’ll learn about next.
2 - Idea of Date
This is probably the single most effective piece of text game I’ve ever learned. Pretty early in the conversation, you want to make a reference/references to “our date”. Sidenote: This is mainly done to see her reaction to it. If she's very excited and receptive to you mentioning a date, you can close faster. However, if she doesn't react too much, keep building investment, don't close prematurely. The below examples are from real Tinder conversations I’ve had over the last 2 weeks:
EXAMPLE 1: She tells you how much she likes books and reading. “I’ll remember to take you to a bookstore on our date then..”
EXAMPLE 2: She tells you she loves harry potter movies. “Nice, now we know what movie we’re watching on our date..” (This line alone has gotten me laid at least 5 times in the past 2 months btw.)
EXAMPLE 3: She asks how your day has been? “Been great, just got back from the gym, looking nice and fit for our date” (credits to Alex from PWF for this line)
You want to introduce the idea of a date into her head by relating it to something you’re talking about.
3 - Pullaway/Tease
If she responds very neutrally/negatively to the previous section statement, keep building investment. However, if she responds positively, you keep building on the fantasy of the “date”. I like to do this with a pullaway relating to something about her (usually something physical works, it makes her feel sexy and desired while allowing you to escalate the conversation). Here are some examples that CONTINUE the conversation from previous examples:
EXAMPLE 1.1: She responds positively to the bookstore date idea: “You definitely can’t wear those cute glasses though, I’d be way too distracted from the books 😪”
EXAMPLE 2.1: She responds positively to the movie date idea: “Little risky though, I might be more focused on playing with your hair than the movie..” (Notice how it’s a slight escalation in terms of imagining cuddling etc. but not full blown sexual yet. This is exactly how you want to escalate conversations, gradually.”
EXAMPLE 3.1: She responds positively to the idea of a date: “*I’ll make sure to wear something modest though, so you don’t get distracted 😇” *(You’re teasing her by making it an apparent fact that she would get super distracted by your muscles etc. on the date. Playful and fun, while showing confidence.)
4 - Escalation
By now, assuming the girl isn’t completely oblivious (and you aren't either), you should be engaged in a fun, flirty back and forth. From here you need to follow the basic principles of escalating the conversation further and closing well. Once again we’ll follow the conversations from previous examples:
EXAMPLE 1.2: She responded: “but I need them 😭 and wouldn’t I be a good distraction?” *Notice how she’s now qualifying herself to me, not the other way around. From here it’s up to you where to take this, my response was: “A little too good I fear..” *Followed by her asking for my snap and closing her there with believe it or not, a bookstore date (And fucking her 3 times the following night. Not kidding. Nerdy girls are always the best.) The close is also much easier since in her mind she’s already kind of agreed to it once, by responding positively before.
EXAMPLE 2.2: She responds: “Very unfortunate if you miss such a good movie but I’d be more than happy to have you play with my hair..” From here I said: “We can definitely try, I’m pretty good at multitasking :)” Which lead to her actually asking me for the date. From there you have to be a buffoon to not close. This type of framework makes everything a lot easier, since you’re getting her to imagine and fantasize about the date, instead of trying to convince her how fun it’ll be etc.
EXAMPLE 3.2: She responds: “Good idea, definitely wouldn’t wanna be distracted..”, I respond: “I know right, but you also have to promise you won’t wear that sexy dress (She had a picture in a, you guessed it, sexy dress on her profile). It's a little more aggressive and straightforward, but I got the vibe from her profile that she was DTF. This lead to a playful banter of imagining what would happen if she did wear that dress, and eventually me “giving in” and allowing her to wear it. And yes, it was a very sexy dress, even on my bedroom floor.
Conclusion
If you’re still struggling with the very basics of text game, you probably shouldn’t try this type of framework out. It requires some critical thinking and being able to read the girl well to calibrate it. I have some other posts on the more basic side of texting along with my online dating guide, which will set you up to perform these types of more advanced frameworks, that for me at least, have about a 30% success rate for getting hookups. For dates, it’d probably be even higher.
A bit of a shorter, more advanced post this time around. I have a growing list full of ideas for posts, but if you have anything specific you’d like to learn, shoot me a message or comment! As always, let me know what you thought. Does this only work if you have photos on a yacht? Do you have to be 6’3 and own a porsche 911 turbo for the girl to actually want to see you? Am I secretly a male model which is why this only works for me…? Comment below, I’ll try my best to respond!
ps. I’ve been stealthily demoing 45-minute coaching calls going over text game and profiles with some guys from reddit, completely for free in exchange for an honest review, since I want to make sure the service is actually valuable and helpful before I charge a penny for it. If you’re interested (and motivated), shoot me a dm..
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