Student diversity officer who tweeted 'kill all white men' to face charges

aokusman · 2015-10-06T15:23:03+00:00

Fact that she is still in that job is amazing, in a bad way.

Chernoblie · 2015-10-06T17:41:26+00:00

"because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist, since we do not stand to benefit from such a system."

How do these people even come up with this shit.

GimletOnTheRocks · 2015-10-06T15:11:00+00:00

But she added the uses of hashtags such as "#killallwhitemen" on her personal account were "in-jokes and ways that many people in the queer feminist community express ourselves".

Given that this is from a woman who'd "trigger warning!" any man immediately to HR or to the police for an "in-joke" fuck you you bitch.

Azothlike · 2015-10-06T16:12:07+00:00

Ms Mustafa explained that she could not be guilty of sexism or racism against white men "because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist, since we do not stand to benefit from such a system."

this white girl lol

women of colour

LOL

minority genders

LOLOLOLOL

manicmonkeys · 2015-10-06T16:32:33+00:00

Can you imagine if a white male tweeted #killallblackwomen?

Huitzil37 · 2015-10-06T15:39:21+00:00

Good I am glad that she is going to be charged. If a male diverstity officer had tweeted "kill all white women" they would also have been rightly charged.

This is good news that she is going to be charged. What about all the feminists over at "againstmensrights" did they not have a logo of "kill all men".

I suspect that some of the things that Jessica Valenti and other feminists have written could also get them charged in the UK. She is based in the USA but I suspect that if someone complained Jessica Valenti would be banned from the UK due to her misandric views.

This has made my day!

7478 · 2015-10-06T15:59:12+00:00

She will never do a day of time for this. Instead she will be given some sort of plum position at the EU or something.

bertreapot · 2015-10-06T18:58:39+00:00

Ms Mustafa explained that she could not be guilty of sexism or racism against white men "because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist, since we do not stand to benefit from such a system."

I wonder if she'll try to use this bullshit argument in court? Saying a woman can't be sexist is like arguing it's impossible for a women to stab a guy, because the man is privileged.

DrDoSoLittle · 2015-10-06T16:11:50+00:00

Good to see equal treatment, and I still disagree with the law and charges. Crap like this needs to stop or free speech will cease to exist.

eaton80 · 2015-10-06T18:35:16+00:00

Comments disabled? Hey Guardian what happened to "comment is free"?

They don't like it when it's one of their own.

2015-10-06T21:01:16+00:00

She shouldn't be legally charged, she should have just lost her position for being unqualified for it and being soooo unapologetic about her bigotry.

JohnKimble111 · 2015-10-06T15:21:12+00:00

Worth remembering that Lib Dem executive committee members also share these views: https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/kill-all-men-fk-men-die-cis-scum-says-lib-dem-executive-committe-member/

DavidByron2 · 2015-10-06T15:09:18+00:00

Well being a racist sexist asshole made her a bad fit as "diversity officer" but it shouldn't be a criminal matter. Although ironically she's the sort of authoritarian nut who would be in favour of criminalizing speech.

emperorhirohito · 2015-10-06T17:21:58+00:00

Honestly I don't want her to be charged. I just want the world to acknowledge what a shitty person she is.

MrDoradus · 2015-10-06T16:12:25+00:00

I'm glad that she's facing these charges, but before we get too happy about it all let's wait and see if any of them sticks.

Or better yet, let's wait and see for how much she'll sue the country, for causing her unjust emotional trauma, after she's acquitted. And given the track record, she has high chances of winning that lawsuit.

TheDude41 · 2015-10-06T19:43:23+00:00

Not that I agree with the basic premise of this law at all, but it's nice to see a prosecutor discharge her responsibilities impartially.

Amazing that this woman still appears to hold her position.

fuck_ya_bud · 2015-10-07T00:55:22+00:00

Omg my justice boner is so hard right now my vein might rupture

duglock · 2015-10-06T18:54:45+00:00

The police shouldn't be policing language. If we support her arrest then we are also supporting police arresting MRA''s for thought crimes.

ScooopyNATTY · 2015-10-06T16:26:59+00:00

Everything is wrong here. I disagree with what she said and I believe she should be fired but I also disagree with making twitter posts criminal...things are worse than i thought in the UK.

apullin · 2015-10-06T19:45:01+00:00

From what I have read, it really seems like that this person is beset with rage and rancor in a way that is negatively affecting her life. This should concern everyone around her.

Consider the sometimes used definition of an alcoholic: someone who understands the negative or destructive consequences of their habit, but continues with it anyway.

That same pattern could be applied to the subject of this article, really.

fappyday · 2015-10-06T20:01:19+00:00

The Tumblr is strong with this one.

choobster · 2015-10-06T20:08:37+00:00

Man I just don't like this Ms. Mufasa

Globalization101 · 2015-10-06T21:09:06+00:00

Bigot

scanspeak · 2015-10-06T21:38:19+00:00

"In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group."

Xemnas81 · 2015-10-07T13:05:43+00:00

I have a quite politically active feminist acquaintance who tried to argue that

a) This quote was OK because white men are privileged #checkyourprivilege

b) MRAs are to blame for this

c) The people who hurled her abuse should be prosecuted, not her

There was the legit complaint that people like Katie Hopkins and Nick Griffin who have said some awful things didn't lose their jobs over it.

2015-10-06T18:56:41+00:00

Stupid. Charging people over shit said on the internet is ridiculous. Unless there is an obvious, physically supported threat -- like saying they are going to bomb a bank or something, you should be able to say whatever you want.

We should NOT get on board with policing what people say like Feminists.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-10-06T21:02:22+00:00

Ah, how sweet it is. And no, it isn't censorship to charge her for saying "kill all white men." Incitement to mass murder is a long way from saying, "white men are jerks and, also, they have cooties!"

JamieD86 · 2015-10-06T21:25:08+00:00

Right. I remember when this happened and the outrage was simply because she was a student diversity officer at the time. That's why so many people reacted the way they did to it. She shouldn't be a student diversity officer if she clearly doesn't believe in diversity.

However, charged by police? WTF? CHARGED? Over a HASHTAG???

As much as I really don't like her attitude and what she represents, charging somebody over a stupid generalized hashtag is ridiculous. People in this comment section have said things like, "What if a white man tweeted #KillAllBlackWomen", well I think if he was a diversity officer or anything like it he should lose his job in disgrace, but he shouldn't be charged, it's a fucking hashtag.

If you really want her to be charged, be careful what you wish for guys!! This was NEVER a credible threat of killing all white men, or even one white guy, it was some idiot who used a hashtag.

Yes there is an amusing irony that feminists and progressives flirt with the idea of charges over "problematic" speech about women (like, ya know, "fair criticism.."), but still, just because she is on the end of the charges doesn't make it any more palatable, to me at least!

EDIT: After reading a bit more, it isn't necessarily over the #KillAllWhiteMen hashtag that was doing the rounds, but even as just comments and not a hashtag, I still can't get behind charges here!!

NUMBERS2357 · 2015-10-06T17:20:03+00:00

This violates freedom of speech. I know the UK doesn't have as strong free speech laws as the US, and I'm glad that if it exists it's to be enforced evenly - that said, I don't think anyone should face government sanction for tweeting something like "kill all white men".

cymrich · 2015-10-06T17:16:08+00:00

how is it that online petition only got 165 signatures??

2015-10-06T18:32:12+00:00

She sure makes it easy.

2015-10-06T20:05:38+00:00

That's my favorite NOFX song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrlbRdJsSE

Seriously, was she referencing NOFX? If not, then not cool.

wll89a · 2015-10-06T20:12:16+00:00

Not sure how I feel about this. Hate speech is bad, hate speech bans are bad.

I mostly wonder how this will be blamed on the patriarchy.

faithle55 · 2015-10-06T22:09:52+00:00

While I think this woman's behaviour is extremely reprehensible, the fact that it may be criminalised is a very sad thing.

2015-10-07T09:25:28+00:00

This person is hateable, but charges are bullshit. Everyone being treated shitty isn't the equality I'd like

2015-10-07T13:06:15+00:00

I see some people in this thread are questioning whether or not it should be ok to public broadcast #killallwhitemen . to me there are many lessons from history that say it's not ok Nazi Germany, Rwanda.. etc.. I know we obviously dont live in a climate where a mass culling or white men is likely to happen.. but I think it's she's been arrested.

I'm living in the UK.. so I believe in free speech but within reason.. Things you could never get away with saying publicly off the top of my head:

1.kill all Jews.

2 anything that compromises national security.

3.that it's ok to have sex with children.

I think these things illustrate clearly why there are boundaries to free speech and beyond those boundaries there will be arrest or a severe arse kicking..

Lethn · 2015-10-06T15:41:54+00:00

"A student diversity officer who was caught up in a racism row after allegedly posting 'kill all white men' on social media has been summonsed to court to face malicious communications charges."

...... They mispelled summoned.....

boringcarpets · 2015-10-06T15:48:34+00:00

Are you fucking kidding?

Ms Mustafa will face two charges, one of sending a threatening message and one of sending a menacing or offensive message via a public network

is that it? why cant she be done for discrimination or hate speech?

ifelsedowhile · 2015-10-06T15:53:53+00:00

turkish people are a mixed bag, some look european like her or dr. oz, some other look middle/near eastern like Cenk Dumbgur.

2015-10-07T02:03:20+00:00

As a libertarian I am against arresting anyone for their words.

Even though I do not agree with her ideas, I do not think anyone should support violation of Free Speech.

In USA there is the First Amendment.

Ricwulf · 2015-10-06T22:04:41+00:00

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Title	Student diversity officer who tweeted 'kill all white men' to face charges
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