Not lifting.

[deleted] · 2015-07-12T20:15:11+00:00

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Wanderlustian · 2015-07-12T15:44:25+00:00

Fitness in general and lifting in particular are certainly not discouraged by many of the bloopers I've met. Here's one topic a while back where you can see this. I've seen quite a few. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/361630?sort=confidence

OlBastard · 2015-07-12T15:30:23+00:00

Telling individuals not to lift is tantamount to what insecure women do within relationships, a la encouraging 'dad bod'.

Likewise, if anyone is for lowering SMV, it's bloopers.

winndixie · 2015-07-12T19:22:26+00:00

Why do you care what other people do unless you think it reflects on you feeling threatened yourself? Or a display of how you are unable to do something so you resent it?

[deleted] · 2015-07-12T19:28:05+00:00

I think lifting is great exercise for men and women. But I also think all exercise is great exercise. Swimming, running, ultimate frisbee, yoga, whatever gets you moving.

terminator3456 · 2015-07-12T15:34:17+00:00

Let's the conversation. A link please.

To answer - no, TBP is not against lifting.

Amethhyst · 2015-07-12T15:56:20+00:00

No? I'm not against lifting. I do think some RPers sound like they take it too far, and as a chick my honest personal opinion is that 'ripped' guys aren't particularly more attractive than more slender guys. But whatever, if you think it's improving your health, have at it.

I might add that I'm also strongly against the fat acceptance movement. Health first. Let's be reasonable.

[deleted] · 2015-07-12T16:00:14+00:00

i'm guessing this might be the exchange referred to? if so, the commenter's reasons were pretty clearly explained elsewhere in the thread, though.

nemma88 · 2015-07-12T17:30:46+00:00

Some people just don't like the look, and there is some stigma surrounding the lifting community as a whole. I think some people are quite obsessive, some methods can be unhealthy - but on the whole its OK. It is not, nor has ever been a natural look in humans.

People can do as they wish. Tanning booths aren't natural, are unhealthy but everyone loves those. I wouldn't deter anyone from doing so but I don't think it's necessary

[deleted] · 2015-07-13T00:33:08+00:00

I know a lot of people in my gym who lift seriously and have what you could call bluepill values.

itsalreadybeenthrown · 2015-07-13T03:31:36+00:00

No one is against lifting its just a facile answer TRP gives when men ask serious questions.

Beej67 · 2015-07-13T16:01:03+00:00

What's actually bad: ... Skipping leg day

cravenravens · 2015-07-12T16:41:05+00:00

I wouldn't call it unnatural, but it's not the most natural form of physical exercise, and - nor the one that creates the best bodies, in my opinion.

Iramadance · 2015-07-12T17:07:35+00:00

Whoa. TBP isn't against lifting. Some women are against lifting. They don't want low SMV improving themselves. They see them as inherently beneath them so when they improve it encroaches on their SMV. Men, if a women tells you "You're fine as you are" ignore her.

SaintOfPirates · 2015-07-12T17:28:24+00:00

How I see anyone who says weight training is "bad"

CursedLemon · 2015-07-12T17:39:05+00:00

Lifting is great.

Being a meat-headed testosterone junkie with shitty misogynistic principles is not.

It's just that one of these things tends to gravitate toward the other.

veyron3003 · 2015-07-12T18:02:35+00:00

Planet fitness is like a blooper haven. As it discourages improvement.

AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2015-07-12T16:11:03+00:00

lol LIFTING will NOT get you much with women.

I lift and I use a TRT-level dose, occasionally use GHRP-6 and have used dbol before, but whatever, it has only maybe gotten more sex with one or two more women than not lifting.

I go to the gym and I see lots of GYM-cels (gym + incel). In fact, the gym is like a homing beacon for insecure incels. I see all sorts of balding, short, ugly men there. But yeah, I am sure a girl is really impressed that a balding, 5'9" manlet can OHP 185 pounds.

This is ALL you need, in terms of body

It isnt that hard. Lift 2 to 3 times a week and eat sensible. Or you could be a weirdo on the misc who obsesses over diet plans and BCAA and periodization...Oh yeah, brah, I just hit 500 pounds on the deadlift, sl00ts be mirin' -- delusional gymcel talk.

so, yeah, gym is perfectly fine, but to think it really matters to attracting women is delusional.

buartha · 2015-07-12T19:23:24+00:00

I don't think it's bad. I wouldn't do it myself, but the benefits of any weight-bearing exercise done in moderation on things like bone health are pretty uncontroversial.

Still though, I'd say there's a point where getting more and more built stops being much help aesthetically, at least to me, but I appreciate that that's largely subjective.

wazzup987 · 2015-07-12T15:52:43+00:00

Lifting is the best form of meditations

autoNFA · 2015-07-12T22:32:20+00:00

Inherently against weight lifting? No. But personally, I find the effects of it pretty unattractive, and the method of getting there absurd. The body is not supposed to look like that. I've seen it get so absurd that the lifters lose range of motion, because their ridiculous muscles impede the flexion and range of other ridiculous muscles.

dakru · 2015-07-12T16:20:21+00:00

Since you're just talking about my exchange you might as well copy and paste my reply:

It lasts longer. It's more sustainable. What do you think happens to your body when you stop lifting? I haven't personally known a single person that has stopped lifting and instantly cut their calorie intake.

If you learn to manage your eating (<2000 Cal/day) and do stuff sustainable you can easily stay into shape.

I work 'lifting' into my daily life by doing things the hard way.

I 'lift' at the grocery store. Get the hand basket and do non stop curls & reverse curls as you go around the store. It's stuff that I have to do anyway. When I have to move my car around the driveway/garage I do it without starting it. Put into neutral and just push it. My laptop is a 17" 10 lb behemoth and I'll walk around the house one handed with it all the time.

We like to have bon fires. Rather than buying or chainsawing firewood I bought a cheap double bit axe. I fell, cut and haul all of it by hand. Pick up a sport that you can play into your 40s and 50s like tennis or racquetball. They burn more calories than lifting and are easier to sustain into old age.

Every single 'body builder' I knew in my younger 20s stopped lifting when life got busy and their bodies reflect that. I'm probably the person most in shape out of my entire highschool class. Mainly because I built up sustainable health skills rather than just "Lift Brah".

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Especially when you consider how boring everyone sounded in this question thread.

I didn't need to lift because it was between split wood or the house freezes. I had 4th of July with some friends that could have been any average TRPer, some had never cut down a tree in their life.

I didn't need to lift before wrestling because that's the year my starter died and I couldn't afford to replace it. I spent ~4-5 months pop starting my car.

I didn't need to lift because we couldn't afford a garage or any tools. I an transmission on grass

I didn't need to lift because I couldn't afford a hoist. So when I finally did have a house I deadlifted my 2.0L engine block to my work bench. (And still have the scar on my arm from where a point dug in).

And now I don't need to lift because I still do things the hard way. I don't need to cut trees for heat. But I do it so we can have bon fires. I could buy a tractor to make my life easier but I like man handling my TroyBilt Tiller just like my dad. Want to do a lat pull down? Pull a tiller into the ground in 5 minute increments.

Want to build your quads while gaming? Get rid of your chair and do sit squats in increasing increments of time. Need milk? Get it first and hold it at an L for the entire rest of your shopping. Lifting is unsustainable because eventually you will run out of time or spend a disproportionate amount of time doing it.

Until you're the guy living in a van at Gold's Gym.

barbadosslim · 2015-07-12T22:29:03+00:00

I helped start SRS and I lift. I don't know where the idea that non-RP people are against lifting comes from.

Title	Not lifting.
Author	genki-sama
Upvotes	5
Comments	237
Date	July 12, 2015 3:24 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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