Male supremacy in disguise - why?

KirthWGersen · 2022-05-10T15:38:05+00:00

Male supremacy is a strange word to use for what is simply insecurity and hypocrisy.

While opposed to cheating (which I have never done), I am not monogamous and don't expect my partners to be. In fact, I prefer it if they are not.

Nevertheless, I have been in plenty of relationships in which the woman preferred to have sex only with me, but didn't care if I had sex with other women. In fact I am seeing two such women at the moment. They are happy with the situation and so am I. But it would be the height of hypocrisy for me to suggest that things SHOULD be that way.

The funny thing is, the guys you mention are unlikely ever to get what they want without deception or dominating submissive, low-self-esteem women. If they didn't have double standards, they might end up in healthy relationships in which they did.

2022-05-10T14:09:07+00:00

Because they don't respect you lol. They don't see a woman as not liking their views as a deal breaker, they see women who turn them down as stupid anyways. So if you agree, then great, they don't have to respect you. If you disagree, great, they don't respect you.

They're abusers. Men who think like that want a submission woman who will tolerate sexism. They'll even try to put some distance to spin it in their favor like "I've never cheated on any of my girlfriends, but I think it a man cheats its just sex and when a woman cheats its more because women are more emotional".

It's almost like reverse breadcrumbing. They put on a good front and start sprinkling sexism and toxicity in, then ramp up as you get more serious. That is what abusers do.

smallstarseeker · 2022-05-10T14:46:34+00:00

They are trying to hide their small dick energy.

“no, a man can cheat but a woman can’t” - So societal norms should prevent his GF/wife from cheating and at the same time he should get a permission to do so? Sounds like a lot of insecure small energy to me.

Also "I am superior thereby society should give me an advantage". If he is superior he doesn't need advantages in life... we provide advantages to people which are handicapped.

They didn't hide this until the end of conversation. Rather this revelation had exposed them so they end the conversation.

humdf · 2022-05-10T15:00:42+00:00

YoU dOnT uNdeRsTanD tHe aRguMentS a sUprEmE BeIng HaS ?

Totally logical.

YoU aRe a NoN sUpRemE beInG.....

so the male suprematism is proved TrUe

liVe WiTh iT yOu sTupId lOw brAinEd beIng....

sarkington · 2022-05-10T14:08:52+00:00

Then they don’t get laid or something

just_a_place · 2022-05-10T18:17:39+00:00

Women confuse actual male supremacy (The belief that men are actually superior to women in every way) with male exceptionalism (The belief that men are exceptional to gynocentric/female/feminine archetypes, modes, personalities, and realities).

Male Exceptionalism starts when boys figure out that they are NOT girls, that we are "different" from our mothers and that is to say pretty damned early in life and we learn it independently. That is more or less the age when we discover dad and follow him like a shadow trying to imitate whatever he does.

Instinctively and WITHOUT SOCIAL CONDITIONING we realize that "this giant male is what I will become one day" and we instinctively strive for that for the rest of our lives. It is the reason boys gravitate towards boyish things and we start trying to one up each other in the playground and especially the adults. We strive to be exceptional. To be different, to be our own person. It's how boys start to assert their agency in the world and start to form an individualistic mind by creating the attitude that "I'm not like the girls." It is also the reason boys go through that girl-hating phase when we are about 6-9yo. Some dudes who never grow up become genuine woman-haters latter in life.

Feminists have it completely backwards. They accuse men of "othering" women. When in fact it is our instinct to "other" ourselves from the girls. Even as adults the strive to be exceptional, different, unique, and "other," from women never goes away - unless one has sexual dysphoria. And also, this happens by varying degrees. Some men can be hyper macho while others are laid back and pretty nonchalant about it, even effeminate, though they may be hetero.

Whenever you press a man on his sense of agency he will always scramble for the high ground in order to better position himself against any challenge to his sense of self - not his sense of superiority. Men may become supremacists when they take this normal self defense mechanism to the extreme. Supremacy is in fact a mental state in which the ego tries to eradicate the "other" who poses a threat to his sense of self, instead of adapting to any challenges that threaten his self-idealization.

When we are kids this is also when we start leaning how to lie by the way. When we lie, as kids, we learn this is a very good tool for hiding our true selves from the prying inquisitions of "others."

roguish_rogue · 2022-05-10T16:37:44+00:00

If I held such views why would I ever talk to a woman I was romantically interested in about these things? Thats just bad game. Maybe they lack other interesting or fun things to talk about? Some guys really need to touch some grass.

Traditional_Job2467 · 2022-05-10T16:59:33+00:00

Sounds no different than female supremacists types who act like that

Financial_Leave4411 · 2022-05-10T14:26:48+00:00

It’s because they know women will not give them a chance if they are honest from the start. They are either trying to get sex and as such lie long enough to get it or they’re trying to convenience a woman to change for them and accept their bs to have the woman as a more permanent plate.

dottywine · 2022-05-10T14:06:37+00:00

It's called catfishing. A good guideline is to immediately drop talking to anyone who says the word "natural" in relation to humans.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-05-10T15:30:24+00:00

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yeoldname · 2022-05-10T19:28:20+00:00

I’ve never met a man who says any of these things in real life. And very few on the Internet. What you’re describing sounds like super religious nut cases.

SmakeTalk · 2022-05-10T21:21:48+00:00

I'll never get sick of the irony of proud misogynists hiding their beliefs to trick someone into dating them.

ZealousidealAd7191 · 2022-05-11T03:10:17+00:00

Im doubtful that conversation progressed the way you claim it did. Most red pill men believe men and women are different and should NOT actually be held to the same standard of behavior.

MelodiousTones · 2022-05-10T13:58:38+00:00

Ask a couple of pointed questions before you go out with them first!!

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Guitar-Master9891 · 2022-05-12T05:51:23+00:00

Most men think women are somewhat inferior in some aspects (sometimes in most aspects) the same way a child is inferior to an adult, but it's very unkind and unmanly to admit it or say it out loud, there is no point in hurting others just "because". Tall men don't go around insulting short men for being short, nor handsome men insult ugly men just because they weren't lucky of being born handsome. Same with women.

Arguably, most men wouldn't interact with women at all if it wasn't because we like them and we are very attracted to them. Most men find the process of talking to women quite boring, though I must admit it can be endearing if you do it from a female perspective, as a mental excersise or a game. However, and this is something most men will acknowdelege in public with just a small glance but won't ever admit, I invariably feel I'm interacting with a child and patronizing them all the time, with the sole difference that I have to put more effort in faking the inquiring tone in my questions.

The thing is we like women. We like them so much that sometimes we will go as far as atributing them qualities they don't really have at all and belong to a "mythical" reality that doesn't really have an actual empirical proof such as being "nurturing", "empathetic", "emotionally driven", "emotionally intelligent", or whatever.

We even mistake women's failures and flaws for "female nature" and excuse bad behaviour on their behalf saying "women are just like that", "changing their minds all the time", "they can't be understood" and such. And we do all this as a coping mechanism to avoid the fatal reality that may be there isn't something that needs to be understood about the female nature, and that we are just dealing with not a different kind of humans that act and think on whole different set of reassonable variables and intrests, nor they act acording to a divine, transcendental or ethereal nature, but just act and react randomly and acording to ilogical principles just because... Well...

Because they are idiots.

When men behave like women other men slap the shit out of them, or they come off as stupid and socially retarded and get quicly ostracized. Men can't stand other men's same level of stupidity we tolerate in women. Even more so, women's stupidity can come off as funny and even cute to us, and we give them a pass for their lack of intelligence because, we say, they compensate with gracefullness, beauty and elegance (I agree with this but some men have higher standards).

Do the test, say something stupid or mean to a man and see how he reacts.

Women can get away with things men couldn't even dream of. I'm damn sure if every woman on the planet had a dick a man would have made them all swallow half her teeth by the age of 20.

And to be completely fair, by the age of 32 I still find myself trying to figure out if women are dumb just by nature or because they don't really need to be smart, not sure which one is it.

I don't consider myself a "male supremacist" actually, I'm just stating what seems obvious from a pure biological point of view. Hard to find out a thing a woman can do that another man couldn't do better unless it's being an actual woman and inspiring in men things other men couldn't, and that's basically the be all end all of being a woman: men like women more than men, even if men are better at anything else.

But one thing is for sure: you are hella beautiful and lovely.

Suck-Less · 2022-05-12T18:30:21+00:00

A woman must be married for protection and survival?

No woman deserves protection from random men. Thinking different is literally FEMALE supremacy. It it valuing female life over male life.

dietwindows · 2022-05-10T15:00:45+00:00

As an autistic dude, I can tell you with confidence that most people are too scared to tell you what they actually believe.

The ones who want to persuade you are even worse, since they won't hesitate to lie in order to do it. It's an ends justify the means kind of thing.

badgersonice · 2022-05-10T14:10:43+00:00

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Zerofication · 2022-05-10T18:29:21+00:00

Why do they feign rationality only for their male supremacy to show later? Why don’t they be honest about their actual beliefs?

Why do you think it's not rational to think that males are superior to females? Also, there's nothing to prevent believing in something that's actually true, unless you believe that all beliefs are false, which is self-contradictory.

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2022-05-10T14:00:11+00:00

Male supremacy is as prevalent as female supremacy is in todays society’s.

I say that because it’s just a form of confidence and empowerment. Women have been doing this for the last 50 years. The difference is men get “power” when they come under come together. (Militia, radical groups, mra, military, etc).

DeliciousPussyNectar · 2022-05-10T15:26:33+00:00

Things that didn’t happen

AbbreviationsHot1200 · 2022-05-10T18:29:00+00:00

Why shouldn't men feel superior?

This planet was explored, conquered and shaped by human males.

basedmama21 · 2022-05-10T21:52:42+00:00

I’ll get dved for this but I do agree with women getting the best protection from marriage when they choose exceptional men as husbands those men are rare. I also think younger women are perfect for older (not 10 plus years older) men.

I was raised by a very traditional Caribbean dad and southern mom so there in lies why I have such an unpopular/non modern opinion.

social_mule · 2022-05-11T02:59:11+00:00

For the same reason women hide their crazy. If she pulls out the tarot cards and crystals right from the start she's gonna raise too many red flags so she eases into it with batshit-lite topics like astrology and claiming to be an empath then BOOM one day she's having a seance in the living room with candles and a ouija board.

Same with men. If male supremacists say women should be barefoot and pregnant right out of the gate it raises too many red flags. Toxic people tend to hide their toxic traits if they have an ulterior motive and revealing their true self hinders that motive. In other news, water is wet.

PopAccomplished3995 · 2022-05-11T17:24:40+00:00

Please for the love of god show me one actual conversation where a guy said men are higher than women so they can cheat. Even if they did believe that they would never say it until after they had sex with you. Callin bullshit

ruboyuri · 2022-05-10T16:30:56+00:00

Competitive, social animals will lie. Get over it

itm4l2000 · 2022-05-11T00:36:27+00:00

It's like this.

Any person that walks into a dark alley, alone who is uncertain of themselves, fears the unknown and is anxious while doing so, doesn't instill confidence in themselves or others.

Apply the above idea to life in general.

So if another person has composure to do so and the other doesn't, should we frame this as a competency or supremacy issue.

The language used in this post can cause confusion between the meanings of competency and supremacy. But I do have hope women at a primal level deeply understand this.

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2022-05-11T00:15:11+00:00

They are referring to top 1-5%men. Or even 20% of men.

peanutbutterjams · 2022-05-11T06:11:08+00:00

That must be very frustrating.

I guess the upside of feminism is that it signals possible female chauvinism from the get-go.

chingness · 2022-05-11T09:20:29+00:00

There’s some creep all over tiktok who is definitely just rage baiting at this point with his ridiculous views but it’s scary how many men are suckered in by what these men say! His latest that I saw was that he would only perform CPR on a hot woman! Not even on his mate because that shits gay 😂😂

I don’t even think they believe what they say but some people eat it up so they make money out if I guess.

blaizken_420 · 2022-05-12T20:01:14+00:00

Because female supremacists are allowed to be open about it.

Title	Male supremacy in disguise - why?
Author	dottywine
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Date	May 10, 2022 1:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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