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[–]KongDonkey_92 84 points85 points86 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Approach instead. The hottest girls are in real life.
Overseas, Tinder is a goldmine!
[–]AHumbleGod 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah, you feel like a chick overseas. 99+ matches within hours. Australian tinder is broken as well
[–]J_Want98 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is news to me, is overseas really that much better than our tinder here?? I know our tinder here in Aus is terrible but surely overseas can be too much better??
[–]Upper_Source836 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you go to a new country, you will be exotic to their population. That's the reason for higher matches.
And at home tinder is shit. Better to meet someone in real life.
[–]J_Want98 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's super interesting, honestly never really thought about it before!! 🤔
[–]AHumbleGod 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep! Well this was in Malaysia, but yeah chicks messaging first. Whole different experience. Now wether that was the whole Australian in asia thing, which in inclined to believe. It truly is awesome.
That's interesting af!!! I might have to take a trip!!! 👀👀
[–]willgo-waggins 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Yeah overseas still seems live. The US it’s dead.
[–]MalibuProducer77 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
But why?
[–]willgo-waggins 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It’s all about profiteering in the US so they don’t remove any of that garbage and solicitation.
[–]MalibuProducer77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Could you explain what this means?
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Profiteering? That’s pretty self explanatory as a term.
In the US everything attached to a corporation comes down to profiteering.
That’s what I mean.
[–]MalibuProducer77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh so like Tinder is most likely rigged by the company. I always thought that too
[–]Doireallyneedaurl -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Every dating app is rigged in the US if you're not attractive. If you're not the top .1% of good looks, you have to pay the apps to "promote you" to bots and catfishes with the hope that you might match with one real person.
[–]MalibuProducer77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What I'm trying to figure out is, why when you're overseas, it works 100x better according to these stories I'm hearing?
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They mean it works overseas because as a foreigner in another country where the dominant race is different to yours (assuming you're white), you're perceived as exotic, interesting, and more desirable.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't. most of the dudes here are just parroting redpill hearsay and have never actually tried Tinder "overseas"
source: I'm from a place you americans would call "overseas" and Tinder sucks ass here as well.
[–]JaggermanJenson 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was in the carribean for a week and I got matches with so many 9+ girls. Back in my hometown and it's like a desert. May be the foreigners bonus tho
[–][deleted] 115 points116 points117 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
I've found there are three kinds of women on tinder:
-bots
-girls looking for social media followers
-girls who just want to get likes to feel good about themselves
[–]daddysgotanew 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve had women I met up with tell me rather directly that they are on there for attention and to feel better about themselves due to low self esteem, or a recent breakup etc but that if they see something they really like they’ll meet up. However it wasn’t their main goal when making the profile. Women are extremely insecure.
[–]willgo-waggins 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You’re missing the:
OF girls Snap girls IG girls
Who are “selling content” (porn)
And the rest of local are basically the new online hookers that will steer you to an outside social media messaging system to get you to come pay for sex.
I became single again a few months ago and turned Tinder and Bumble back on to see if it helped drum up any action.
So far I have basically zero to show for a pair of apps that basically force men to pay to have any actual access.
By comparison I have also reinstated my swinger apps and have picked right up in the Lifestyle with parties almost every weekend (available if I want), sex every time with those, and recon eating with single women and couples that I have play dates with.
At the same time I have also been going out to events, parties and bars/clubs in the regular. The results are two awesome regular FWB’s both approximately twenty years younger than me, three other one nighters and reconnecting with three former lovers who are also good for future rendezvous.
So I’m summary, online “dating” sites are bullshit. Nothing more than another conceived money trap like Only Fans and it’s clones that exist to sucker dumb horny guys into paying money for a damn tease.
I am actually seriously considering contacting one of the National law firms that handle class actions against major outlets like these to look into initiating a class action against at least Tinder to force them to actually police their fucking system and root out the “sex workers” of all types from the system. They are basically just letting it ride and doing nothing.
All thoughts appreciated folks.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Please elaborate on the swinger apps
[–]willgo-waggins 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Swing Lifestyle is the longest running and most established. It has been passed somewhat by Kasidie which is more popular with the younger crowd.
Understand something really important here about the swing lifestyles and those sites fellas. And I say this from over thirty years if it both as a single guy and in a couple or with a lady partner.
The swinger lifestyle is built around couples. As a guy you just respect and understand this and act appropriately as an unwelcome guest or you will either be shit out or not allowed in. Most swingers in most areas have a pretty good communication network and will share with each other about “problem” people.
It’s not a pass to “getting laid” automatically and you can NEVER go to any event where you are allowed in as a VETTED single guy with the expectation of having sex at all. And news flash here, you probably will not - even if you are an Adonis - for a few months and a lot of events.
One thing you have to always realize as well. It’s not some Las Vegas fantasy of beautiful bodies. There are a huge variety of ages, looks and body types. And if you make the dumb ass mistake of saying something stupid to the fat girlfriend who is friends with everyone, you will never get into any party, group or club in your area again.
If you want to go this route, you need to have an open mind and a lot of patience. You also need to be a decent person and be prepared that as a single guy in the Lifestyle you are the financing for the couples parties.
And forget about thinking you will be getting any of the single women. These are the “Unicorns”. There are 675 couples and 83,000 singles guys ahead of you in line to even try to talk to these girls. They are so in demand that if she is in her fifties, fat and nasty, she is still considered a “Unicorn”. You won’t see anything like this for a long time. I have literally dozens of reviews (certifications) in my profiles from established couples, single women and most importantly the owners of the various parties and clubs and groups throughout my state and several other Western states. You have to have friends and an established reputation to be introduced to the true Unicorns and it’s still somewhat rare.
You also fight all kinds of stereotypes all the time. If you’re a black guy, you better have a horse dock or you’re just a troublemaker/dog to be avoided if you’re under 35. If you’re a white guy, you’re not gonna be big enough/have enough stamina. Never mind Asian lol! If you’re Mexican you’re dirty and scummy and trouble. These prejudices do exist and you absolutely have to just learn to be quiet and ignore it and above all be cool. Don’t think you’re gonna run any kind of “game” on swingers. They have been there, done that and wrote the book.
The ladies rule always. Never forget that. But if you to fuck some guys hot wife, you had better make friends with her husband (ONLY if SHE approaches YOU btw) or it’s not happening. Never touch ANYONE without specific permission and don’t whack off unless you are invited.
That’s all I can think about for now but there’s always more all the time.
[–]International_Rub475 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, please do.
[–]smoltims 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re also missing the:
Not emotionally available
Hung up on their ex
Taken but looking for friends
I met my bf on Tinder, but good lord that shit was a hassle lmao
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah good ones and I did forget all that.
[–]FatMikey777 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the best accurate take for guys on any dating app.
[–]Daikon_Tasty 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
On girls night, we make weird profiles and see how ppl react. It's fun.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fun for you. Not for us.
[–]Daikon_Tasty 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What guy isn't going to have fun with a profile pic of a girl with hair and boobs drawn on with MS Paint.
[+]TheSunshineMan -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You forget all the girls who are DTF
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
As soon as I see one I will amend my previous statement.
[+]TheSunshineMan -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Most girls on Tinder.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Maybe in your city, not in mine.
[+]TheSunshineMan -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Excuses get you nowhere in life.
Only action.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok bud.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Other dude is just a troll, forget him.
That being said, there are girls on tinder looking to date and have sex. However, unless you follow rules 1 & 2, you won't have a chance with them because at the end of the day, tinder is 90% looks-based.
Maximize your attractiveness first, then worry about getting on the apps. And if you still don't get results (after creating a good profile of course), then don't let it get to you, just focus on your daygame/nightgame.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here is the right answer.
[–]GuaranteeOwn5108 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, there are definitely girls that just want some dick.
[–]HughBeaumont500 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But besides the fat & ugly?
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude get real.
I asked my twenties son about this when I was frustrated.
His response was dad that’s how it used to be but it’s not like that any more. It’s a waste.
He works IG and the other social sites and does well. But that’s for younger people than me.
[–]TheSunshineMan -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're not making any sense..
Tinder has tens of millions of people on it..
IG - it works if you're SMV is high enough, for most guys.. that means living a baller life, having professional pics, or are famous for something.
Unless you're 70, IG works.. if you have all of the above.
But feel free to make excuses like most guys, and then get the results as most guys.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
If tinder isn't working for you, then rather than go to the internet to vent your frustrations, focus that energy on other forms of pickup. Daygame and nightgame are better forms of pickup in general, even for those who do find success from dating apps.
EDIT: oh and never take advice from /TheSunshineMan. Dude is either a fucked up troll or completely jaded.
[–]Neat-Art-8180 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I second this man not just that he's Canadian and I am as well.. but that man I've legit gone to places where there's bitches that I've swiped on tinder that didn't rate me n then when I seen them out they giving me hella signals it's fuckikg weird
[–]IllegalAlcoholic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What happened with SunShineMan? Most of his advices are good tbh
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought this was his 2nd account at first 😂
The downvotes on everything he says should say it all, but you do you man.
[+]TheSunshineMan -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Complaining and making excuses is easier then making improvements.
[–]willgo-waggins 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No you’re a basement troll.
Better call mom, nachos are almost out again.
[+]TheSunshineMan -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Says the guy with the seriously creepy post history.
[–]willgo-waggins 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And I challenge you to find a post where I encourage guys to troll their “night game” outside the clubs with people leaving or in other words drunk girls to rape.
Your the creep bud. I’m just enjoying free porn on Reddit.
[–]TheSunshineMan -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting.. as I never said anything about drunk girls, in fact I specifically said not those girls.
[–]Eklio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Chill out weirdo. Dating apps inherently favor women by a landslide, the statistics are literally publicly available. It's not worth the time or effort when you can pick up better girls in person anyways.
[+]TheSunshineMan -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not worth the time and effort for you.
Lots of us other guys are thriving with online dating.
[–]RichardSamsonJordan[🍰] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Tinder sucks. I've used it off an on. Made some matches but never anything else. All it is good for hurting your self confidence and self esteem.
[–]TheSunshineMan -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Like everything else in life, you can do it the way everyone else does it, and get the same results or do what it takes to win.
[–]RichardSamsonJordan[🍰] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wut?
[–]TheSunshineMan -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Put no effort into your profile like 99% of guys, get the same results as 99% of guys.
No effort, no results.
[–]willgo-waggins 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah and this is utter bullshit.
[–]RichardSamsonJordan[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In the end its just not worth the effort. Womens holes aren't that special anyways.
[–]TheSunshineMan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A few hours worth of work?
Good idea, just give up.
[–]RichardSamsonJordan[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Not worth it. Random skanks and their photoshopped pfp are a waste of time.
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And if alternative lifestyle game--like this--is our alternative:
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/pw41p9/is_tinder_a_scam/hefe74d/
Why try at all?
[–]Horny_Blue_Eyes_Guy 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Tinder is good for Henry Cavil, Ryan Reynolds, Scarlett Johanson looking people. Average women can get likes but in all honesty unless you're in the top 10% for men its a struggle. You also have to have that dedicated friend to take pictures for you and most men don't have that. No tinder isn't a scam but it requires skills, expenses, and an approach that most men don't have. Try Coffee meets Bagels or Hinge. I actually let my Ex-Fiancee on Tinder and my recent Ex on Bumble. Its definitely a challange I'm on a dry spell myself but that gives me opportunities to work on me. Keep trying and keep going. A fuck ton of advice is terrible and some people are super toxic, keep going man.
[–]wevie13 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I know I'm not in the 10% of men and I've had zero problems getting dates from Tinder or any other dating app for that matter.
It's largely to do with effort. Spend some time making a good profile along with some good pictures to stand out from the masses of awful profiles and then see what happens
[–]Horny_Blue_Eyes_Guy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true, online dating for me is a side hustle, I'm not in the shape I wanna be yet for an all in but when I am thats the pics time
[–]caIImebigpoppa 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Idk. My profile looks like a meme and half of my photos are selfie videos of me monologuing a really random thing like making a coffee. That and my bio says I’m toxic but I’ll buy you food. And it works, the amount of effort put in is nothing other than the convo you have when you match which is when I say some stupid compliments that no ones heard before
Also if you link your profile to you active Instagram and get people to follow you there instead of talking on tinder that shit works wonders. Especially if you post interactive stories. Yesterday was sunny so I put a photo of the beach and a caption saying “don’t make me say it” I can’t even count how many people messaged me asking say what or completing the line. It’s a free slide into your DMs
[–]Horny_Blue_Eyes_Guy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I suppose, I get nothing and put some effort into it, I can't connect my insta but I mostly post food stuff on there. I ask for people's opinions and I'm always told I'm cute and my dog is amazingly cute so I have no idea what I'm doing worng haha.
[–]caIImebigpoppa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All the input I can give is that the key to sales is indifference. I don’t know what your profile looks like or what you look like. 95% of tinder is looks. Try posting videos
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Read this:
Is that guy making things up about the elitism of Swinger Clubs, or what? It's really bleak and depressing, to read that. He makes it sound dystopian; as if a man himself is entirely disposable until he carves a social footprint so deep, the local mayor knows him by name. What this man says about joining an alternative community with their reputation for open-mindedness--it's so dark, I shudder to think what he would say about dating/romance outside of that.
His post is the most troubling thing I've seen for months in this place, if it is true. It's equally one of the strangest things I've seen.
I had a guy in the autistic community tell me that "poly groups" are anything but elitist, and yet this guy makes it sound like it's a hunting ground for weakness, the way he writes about it. Very odd indeed.
[–]wevie13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What does the swinging lifestyle have to do with this conversation?
I've been a part of that world as a couple by the way and he isn't wrong. There's always single guys (when they're allowed) hanging around those parties and to be honest it's rather annoying in most cases. Some of them look downright creepy. Another thing to remember is it's a fantasy to be fulfilled for the women of a couple so if we do invite a single guy into the mix, he isn't going to be a chubby out of shape guy. He's going to be good looking.
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
It has a lot to do with it, kinda. Tinder as well as real life "scenes" are rife with all kinds of needless hoops to jump through, if you're a man.
That kind of exclusionism is a very difficult thing to accept. A man should be seen as an individual to be respected in all contexts. Once you change the context to romantic/sensual sphere, this is the problem... this is where men don't just find themselves thoroughly unwanted, but even treated with derision... certainly not limited to just the alternative scene, but the entire attitude that far too many women hold online, with their checklist in hand.
That's just a particularly good example of the problem I've been railing about for so long. Both as a broader societal problem for too many men, as well as my own individual plight. Seen as "disposable" and have no takers. And if I complain about it, the only thing they suggest is to gain good status or money, as if such things are the only way to "stop being disposable." As if that answer is one-size-fits-all. It really isn't, you see.
[–]wevie13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It isn't the same thing at all. It's a terrible comparison.
It sounds like you have some kind of resentment of bitterness issues because you've not had much luck in the realm of dating but tell me this. What makes you datable? What do you bring to the table in a relationship? What are your hobbies and interests? What are you ambitions and goals in life?
It isn't just women you know. Us men also aren't interested in settling for someone with no ambitions in life. Why should anyone settle for less than he or she wants?
If the only answer is "good status" or "good money" then I just cannot come to terms with that. I don't subscribe to the "hyperrealist's view" of this, perhaps out of necessity, let's concede that anyway. A lot of hyperrealists are cynical and rigid anyway. But anyway if that's how you think a man must be, to have a chance for literally anything--even a simple hangout/date, whatever--then there's nothing to discuss, since I cannot be that guy.
It is also not my way to think of socioeconomic status, higher education, "social aptitude" before anything else happens. That's a remarkably cold thing, when you approach things this way at the front-end. The other thing that happens when you have this approach is you are "shopping for a serious provider" essentially, and effectively discarding any intangible quality. This is why online is so terrible for men--because this outlook I just wrote about, it's far more common with the other gender. They might be outnumbered and given too much attention, but the point stands, there is typically no individual that exists unless they have status/money up front. That's what happens, man.
Quite frankly I want spontaneity and I'm just not serious--perhaps the market demand is for the opposite type of guy, but again I can't be that. Real-life scenarios might be better--where there's less of that "checklist pressure" and possibilities are more open--but I'm not able to socialize well due to being on the spectrum. So I don't know where to turn. If your only suggestion is "pay for it" I'd ask why you think I'd need to hear that again, not to be a jerk, but that is always disappointing man
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and no. I'm not in the top 10% of men, but I do fine. I'd say you need to be in maybe the top 25% of men (looks-wise). Certain things can be improved to get you up there too. Get ripped and you can qualify for that upper echelon fairly easily.
Also, you don't need a dedicated friend to take pictures of you. You can ask anyone passing by in a cool location to take your picture or just use a tripod with a remote shutter. Start taking a bunch of photos of yourself doing interesting things and some will come out really well. Or pay a photographer to get some good candid photos of you.
[–]thinkdustin 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most men have a mom who would love to take pictures of their handsome son.
[–]HughBeaumont500 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
StepMom can you help me take a photo? I'm stuck
[–]Horny_Blue_Eyes_Guy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sadly I don't live at home and my parents are 70 plus so they aren't tech literate, just my stuggle haha
[–]TheSunshineMan 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm nowhere near top 10% - yet I've had sex with many hundreds of women off of Tinder..
You don't need a dedicated friend to take pics, stop making excuses.
Hire someone.. find another guy who wants the same thing and do a picture exchange.
Skill and expenses?
$10-100+ and an afternoon is nothing if it'll get you lots of girls.
Sounds like a whole lot of excuses that have simple solutions.
This is why 99% of guys fail with women.
A lifetime of excuses is easier than a few hours of doing what it takes to improve.
You’re either a lying fuck or paying for hookers.
Or just the same old trollolloll!
[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The silver lining is, a guy doesn't need status and money to find good woman, and that's the truth.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends on who you are and your goals
Answer:
It’s a SCAM if you’re a woman looking for a relationship or if you’re an AVERAGE looking guy looking for hookups/ relationships.
So, It’s BEST for HOT (8’s, 9’s, 10’s) men who want hookups and WOMEN who only want rebounds, validation, ig followers, and hookups
*these are just generalizations that are true for about 80% of people that use tinder and aren’t true for everyone.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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Wow wish you were in California!
Out here there are tons of listings like that but it’s impossible to get through the idiot pack unless you pay hundreds of dollars in extras to the site to “super boost” or “move ahead”.
I mean come on! How the hell does EVERYONE get to just “move ahead” by simply paying extra? That cannot be true.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i suggest you try and get a girl naturally. other than using a dating app
[–]4bhii 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean naturally? You mean day game?
[–]CompetitionFair7686 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reality is guys who can’t get girls on tinder just have shorty profiles because they don’t really know what makes a picture good and attractive for the opposite gender. I’m pretty sure your pictures are mostly bad or average at best, and you need great photos, not average.
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100% of the women are going for the top 20% of men and that's independent of Tinder. 100% of the men are going for the top 80% of women.
So the top 20% of men get all the action, while the bottom 80% barely get any action and if they do they have to settle for a girl, that's not really their type but it's the only thing they got.
So start chasing excellence. Start making bank. Build muscle. Increase your socio economic status. Do fun things. And then you might find yourself having to turn down women.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve seen a few posts on tinder where they’ve described how the algorithm works.
It’s basically this:
It’s designed to keep women happy. Like a bar that has ladies night. No one turns up if they women aren’t there.
When you as a man sign up, the app will feed you the top female profiles to get you swiping. Then when no one swipes on you, you fall to the bottom of the barrel and barely feature.... unless you pay.
Even when you do pay, you’re going to end up along with thousands of others.
If you’re profile game is not 9/10, you’re wasting your time.
Apparently mass swiping also has negative effects.
Lol you mean the “swipe surge”.
What a damn joke.
Yeah I agree in this being the algorithm pattern as it’s pretty much what I have seen.
I have definitely noticed that slow times (weekday mornings/early afternoon, Sunday morning) I will see hits and responses. But busy times forget it.
All these bullshit stories “it was a slow Friday night so I jumped in tinder and hooked up with xxxx person” are a lot of complete and utter crap.
[–]Effective_Youth777 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I prefer meeting women at the bar or in public, you know.. Like a creep
/s
Lol. That’s a riot. I tell my son to get numbers and he’s like “that’s old fashioned creepy stuff. You gotta get their snap or IG”.
And I’m sitting here like “Um, talk about giving away your identity and allowing a real creep to get j to your shit” since I have an ex wife who is a high level program manager and ex Gf’s who are an attorney (now a judge) for the state and a top supervisor state cop and they could have that info in about twenty seconds from a social media ID with pictures.
So I’m sure hackers can get it which means creeps who will pay for it.
[–]wevie13 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Works well for me without ever paying for the premium stuff
[–]WheelIntelligent1354 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember a researcher on Jordan Peterson's podcast saying that some dating apps use female bots to lure you in. In that dense tinder is sort of a scam, it also just follows insane rules though because women are also choosers rather than outside where women are less actively involved.
[–]Lord_Augastus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, tinder has a premium. It will actively encourage you to get it, to the point of cycling bot, dead and fake accounts so you keep using the app. It will put your account on the back of the line so that the premium and new users get a shot at the front of the scroll, and ebove all just because you have bio and pictures doesnt mean you will instantly get matches. Tinder is now known for its sex only vibe, so in reality what will end up happening is good women/girls wont be on it for anything serious, so the time you spend swiping is nullified even further. Delete the dating apps they dont work.
[–]Skelvir 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your post history clearly states that you may have some personal issues. I assume your neediness and self doubts are deterring girls. For your own sanity, please reach out for professional help, work on yourself first. Start focussing on things you really like in your freetime and once you life a healthy and happy life with some hobbies that fulfil you, girls will come automatically.
[–]5_7pickup 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats why I stopped with OLD. It sucks. Do in person approaches instead. Refer to my field reports for my experience with cold approach.
[–]EspressoByte 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need to follow rule 1 & 2 my friend
[–]NCreature 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're not a classically handsome guy Tinder may not work for you and you have no way to overcome (i.e. good game). Also on those aps you really need to be paying not using the free service. Obviously Tinder and Bumble will show higher quality matches (or show you to more people) if you're a paying customer.
[–]HughBeaumont500 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At one point in time it had hook up potential.
But then something happened. The Girls Union had a meeting or something and agreed it shouldn't be that simple or easy.
Back to mind games and shit
Now Tinder is a joke
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tinder rocks for me. I’m average looking. I just follow the internet recommendations and set the right things on the profile
[–]lana_del_reymysterio 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Tinder isn't a scam IMO, you just have to figure out how to hack it.
I've done quite well on it the last few years, happy to help if you'd like.
I'm M24 btw
[–]Namakemon0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
M24 the rapper ?
Dm for advice?
[–]lana_del_reymysterio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure
[–]bxdger14 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I met the love of my life on tinder. That being said, tinder sucks 99% of the time
[–]Shaqueltons_Ghost 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey man, sorry you haven’t had the best of luck. I can speak from personal experience that tinder (along with hinge and bumble) aren’t scams. There are many reasons why you may not be getting likes. You may be in a smaller city - it’s tougher to get matches when there’s less people. You may not be spending enough time on the app - sometimes you have to flip through hundreds of people to find that perfect match. You may even be going about this whole thing wrong, but I don’t know your profile so I have no idea to know for sure.
Point being is that you’re jaded, but if you’re not getting any likes or matches, it may be time to get off or move to another app. I typically jump between three, routinely deleting them. I’ve met girls on all three, and I’ve also been burnt out by all three. There is a logic to the whole thing. Point being is that they aren’t a scam - you can find people and have successful relationships on them. You’re not gonna hear about it here though, because people being successful on them aren’t posting on r/seduction.
Not sure how helpful this can be, but if you want any advice or want to talk about stuff feel free to DM me. I’d be happy to help - I’m an average-looking guy with what I’d consider a successful profile, so I’d be happy to pass along tips I’ve picked up over time.
I used tinder a lot after my divorce. So many guys had bad profiles. Pictures with other women on it, with a car, no shirt or with kids. And also some with passive aggressive comments. No woman is going to hit that. I went on all the dating apps with succes. But for women it is so much easier to get likes it’s ridiculous. I had 10,000 + likes in two weeks. Women are a lot more selective when they like someone so men have to make more of an effort. It’s totally not fair but there it is.
[–]muff_marauder 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put up photos of male models and watch how many women respond to those.
Online dating gives all the power to women: unplug from the matrix and return to real life.
[–]vermaelen 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's just be honest, you are probably a 5 or 6/10 man. Girls have plenty of choice on dating apps and will only respond to a small percentage of men unless of course that girl is average looking herself.
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas[M] [score hidden] 4 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
This post had to be taken down because it concerns an app. This subreddit is focused on social skills that you can use in real life. Not how to utilize marketing skills to create a social media campaign on an app.
No matter how many times I edit my bio, add photos or change things around, I still can't get any likes or matches.
You'll note that being able to create a cool bio does not involve the skills you need to actually navigate social interactions to get to sex or a relationship.
[–]bandsupjay 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe its you and not tinder dawg
Whatever you say...
[–]TheSunshineMan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Tinder is amazing.
You're failing because you're not setting up your profile correctly.
Don't want to meet Tinder?
Go walk out your front door, look left, look right..
See a girl you like.. walk up and say "Hi"..
You know, have a human to human conversation that humans have been having for millions of years.
4,000,000,000 girls in the world.. (billion)
No excuses
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Tinder is amazing
No... It's literally designed to exploit single men into paying money for matches.
See a girl you like.. walk up and say "Hi"
Not creepy at all...
[–]Electric_kundalini 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tinder clearly isn't working for you so why not approach? It's only creepy if you don't understand social cues and can't read body language. The more Women you talk too face-to-face the better your confidence will get. Don't aim for her number, take baby steps and you will soon get there.
[–]TheSunshineMan 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you've already given up on Tinder and girls.
foreveralone may be a better sub for you.
Where all the guys who've give-up can sit around and complain .. oh poor me, oh poor me.
Yep, having a conversation with another human being is creepy.
How did humans survive the past million years..
[–]Electric_kundalini 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just checked out foreveralone and God that subs depressing.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude I checked everything on your profile.
You’re a fucking predator creep. Besides being a damn troll.
You really need to be identified here so I will.
Don’t pay any attention to this guy unless you want to end up doing jail time for rape.
He likely uses roofies to “get laid”.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need a therapist dude
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[–]bandsupjay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gotta change that mindset of yours
Ok.
[–]bandsupjay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–]The_James_Bond 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is tinder a scam? Tinder is literally a scam.
Is tinder a scam?
Tinder is literally a scam.
You answered that yourself bucko
[–]CmdrTombes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reddit convinced me that the secret to Tinder was to subscribe and it really opened up your options. DO NOT DO THIS! I definitely got more selection but the quality of women as abysmal. I regret paying for it but it is what it is. If I can get a couple dates outta it that's fine.
"Is Tinder a scam?" Of course it is so is Reddit...everyone here is anonymous so everyone faking who they really are and most are just writing mostly fabrications they pull out their asses. Don't believe ANYTHING on the internet unless its sources are verifiable and are held to the highest standards of accuracy and academia.
[–]malaymalay0082 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not as easy for women either . Lots of scammer . No matter how careful you are there’s always one that will slipped thru the crack . The first thing the will say is - wow ! I’ve been waiting for you ! I want to make you my wife right away . If you are a lonely woman , that sentences alone will make your heart flutter but this is not my first rodeo. They will ask what you do for work . Their profile pictures looks so convincing ( pictures of them holding a dog , pictures of them with their kids and so on. He will then tell you what he do for a living - it’s almost like there’s a script for this - I’m pretty sure . This particular man said he is a doctor and working in Syria but a dual citizenship - US and Canadian . His wife died in a car accident in the town of California . I was too lazy to said that California is a state not a city . So he is a widow with 2 daughters. At this time I’m too lazy to engage in a further conversations. I just blocked his profile . If a lonely / desperate women continue to have more conversations this is where you can get scammed . In a nut shell , men and women can easily get scammed .
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes you have to take a step back to observe the other perspective.
[–]EladioV 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All comments here just answered everything I was thinking about Tinder. Thank you, guys ❤️
[–]vxpx73 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
don’t give up :) it was hard for me at first too but i found my soulmate and the love of my life on tinder and i thank my lucky stars everyday that our paths crossed! you just never know.. :)
[–]Edibl3Dreams 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have had one in-person date from Tinder, literally worst date ever, but it was real. May have another next weekend even from a current convo. Woooo
[–]ANewOriginalUsername 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's a glitch tinder has, I created a profile and would do relatively well (never got past 50 likes) but then I ended up changing my number and started a new profile and got 0 likes even though my profile was identical (and yes I have restarted my profile a number of times on my original number without any problems like this)
Yes
Bro , use the plus to go to another country. Like asian country just to test it out .. tell me what happen , cuz in usa i dont get a lot of matches , in SEA, i get a lot .
[–]Shadow__Account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you are telling us it’s a scam and in the next sentence asking how to get better results. Make up your mind
[–]LastForkOnTheLeft 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gonna passport myself to Malaysia brb
It's a huge scam bro, especially for dudes
[–]Big_Tony2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tinder used to make me sad because I couldn't get matches so I just don't use it anymore. Feel good now
[–]StreetBand 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How about us guys just stop chasing women overall and see then what happens? Why is it that guys need females but females r happy without?
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