When females complain about double standards....

cheese-and-candy · 2012-09-02T01:19:56+00:00

Plenty of rhetoric mixed in with real problems discredits the whole thing. You shouldn't do that to serious issues.

ExiledSenpai · 2012-09-02T03:15:36+00:00

I feel the "you aren't attractive" one is entirely false.

Comowl · 2012-09-01T23:14:59+00:00

I really think this chart is going way too far. A number of the "You're Fucked" items are not accurate at all. I know many men who fit these categories who get laid or have a girlfriend:

-Boring

-Obscure interests (I know alot of mtg players)

-Quiet

Some of these were definitely accurate (one night stands) but this list is very over the top. I do not like what seeing this list all the time means for the MRA.

RoundSparrow · 2012-09-02T01:51:59+00:00

Wait, if you have a shitty dead-end job, the solution that will fix all your problems is to be an attractive female? Guess I didn't get the memo.

eulerup · 2012-09-02T03:44:28+00:00

Really, you don't give a flying fuck if you go on a date with a woman who has no money, college plans or friends? Is a dead fish in bead? Was emotionally abusive because it's "that time of the month"? If all of those things are OK with you or anyone else then you/ they seriously re-evaluate your dating standards.

yourfaceyourass · 2012-09-02T00:03:29+00:00

This is completely over simplified false dichotomy.

And why did someone with absolutely no post history and a new account make this?

douglasmacarthur · 2012-09-02T03:48:20+00:00

This is really exaggerated and one-sided. We face some double standards. So do they.

willmaster123 · 2012-09-02T03:28:04+00:00

God dammit.

Lets be honest here, a good 90% of these are wrong. I understand your seeking equality for me, but not to the point where your insulting women by saying that they get everything better.

2012-09-02T04:14:35+00:00

Who upvotes this stuff? A lot of those things are flat out FALSE. Like how being an unattractive, poor, boring, uneducated, lazy, overly emotional, abused person with no career aspects, friends or sexual prowess will magically be made easy if you just have a vagina. Bull. Shit.

kazagistar · 2012-09-02T06:18:53+00:00

This looks like it comes from the most bitter ends of foreveralone. Seriously guys. If you want to make an argument say "I agree with your double standards, here is some places where you could make it easier for guys as well." Not "You are an evil womanz and wrong about everything and guys have it soooooo hard" and a bunch of bullshit about oppression.

ExistentLOList · 2012-09-02T03:01:32+00:00

Yeah, everytime this image is brought up, the consensus is generally the same - this is stupid and hurts the legitimacy of an issue that is actually quite serious. So stop it.

PS - I'm gay and a female, so I have no idea how this relates to me, anyway.

Comowl · 2012-09-02T04:22:33+00:00

That chart was 4x longer than expected. I kept expecting the bottom to drop out and the arguments get really thin. They never did and made me realize that shit is more biased in this society than I thought it was.

Btw I am sitting alone at a bar waiting for my date to show up and buy her drinks. She is currently 20 minutes late. I am leaving now.

Froztwolf · 2012-09-02T14:21:43+00:00

Thank you. I now understand why people that are anti-MRA like to use the "You are just upset because you can't get laid" argument from time to time. It's because of bullshit like this.

2012-09-02T15:47:02+00:00

A lot of these seem to assume that the woman in question is attractive. Oh, you're boring or unlikeable or have no career prospects? All you have to do is be attractive, and you're set. But if you're not attractive, you're fucked. You make it seem like an advantage that women are judged so much on how they look, but that's only an advantage if you look good.

There are a lot of things on here that you count as positives for women that aren't. You create this narrative that guys don't care about a woman's education, job, ambitions, friends, or personality, so long as she's attractive, whereas poor men get judged on whether or not they have friends, ambition, and a good personality. Do you not see how that's not good for women? How, if that were how the world worked, most of us wouldn't think of it as an advantage?

I just don't understand what's with all of the "it's so hard for me to get a date/get laid" stuff. What does that have to do with men's rights? What are you actually mad about, or what do you want to change? Do you think that it should be harder for women to get sex (are you calling upon men to stop having sex so indiscriminately)? Or do you think it should be easier for men to get sex (are you calling on women to start having more casual sex, or lower their standards)?

Overall, your few real points just get lost in a sea of "it's so unfair that people judge me based on who I am and what I do, if I were a woman people would just treat me like a blow-up doll and it would be so awesome." First, that's not actually true--tons of guys are discerning enough to judge women based on personality, social life, intelligence, etc. And second, if it were true, it wouldn't exactly be a utopia for women.

jay76 · 2012-09-02T03:31:03+00:00

Accused of being gay?

That's like accusing me of being a bus driver - who cares? There's an opportunity for the accused to just be mature here.

EDIT: Shortened.

2012-09-02T04:08:20+00:00

Wow.. What the fuck made you so jaded that you would post that. Some of the things are fair and accurate but you go and ruin it by posting hyperbole and blatant lies. Im all for mr, but mysogony is as sickening as misandry. Its posts like this that stop people taking mr seriously. If you are a troll, then you suck because you were called on it. If you are genuinely serious then I hope you realise what a contemptuous arsehole you're being.

fightONstate · 2012-09-02T02:57:26+00:00

This is absolutely hilarious. Nothing more, nothing less. I read this just for the entertainment factor.

SirOinksalot · 2012-09-02T05:08:05+00:00

Can you guys cut the victimization crap for 10 minutes?

Imagine the perspective of this stereotypical woman you depict. You see her as getting a free pass. Truth is she's got her own social constructs to deal with because each of these things are more accurately described as "I can't do X because it's socially taboo and condemned as being unfeminine".

The shit posts like this that exist for no other reason than to attack women really make it tough for me, a man, to sympathise with the few legitimate issues MRAs advocate.

twitchygecko · 2012-09-02T01:46:29+00:00

Even though I agree with large portions of this, it won't convince anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's too hostile, and doesn't acknowledge any of their points.

2012-09-02T04:20:20+00:00

Some of it is completely true, some of it varies depending on how attractive the particular man or woman is, and some of it is true depending on the situation.

DerpMatt · 2012-09-02T19:06:22+00:00

"Well, if women were seen as equal then...."

mistyriver · 2012-09-03T03:00:19+00:00

I agree with you... everyone has their problems and certain difficulties can be specifically linked to gender relations... but I think men do generally get the short end of the stick in life in our society.

Men are the workhorses, and women are the delicate little flowers - the aesthetes.

Smallpaul · 2012-09-02T06:05:05+00:00

What is it about misogynists that leads them to prefer the word "female" to "women."

Kantor48 · 2012-09-02T00:36:25+00:00

A lot of this chart is pretty accurate.

However, the suggestion that male masturbation is at all socially stigmatised is the most ludicrous thing I've heard today.

It's interesting to note that most of that is down to men rather than women. You can't keep a group of people that size down without their consent. Indeed, the same happened to women before the 20th century.

EDIT: I know this comment is terrible but I'll leave it up anyway

TheeCandyMan · 2012-09-01T22:47:46+00:00

Say women, not females.

Language is very important and using females when talking about women is a very poor use of it.

EDIT TIME: Saying females is not a slur but it's no way to get people sympathetic to our cause.

Also, consider who posted this and their probable intentions.

Reaperdude97 · 2012-09-01T23:52:21+00:00

spot on.

2012-09-02T16:47:34+00:00

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Title	When females complain about double standards....
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Upvotes	211
Comments	74
Date	September 1, 2012 10:21 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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