If everything from PPD and TRP subreddit is true,then there is no hope for relationship in the future for average man.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-12-21T12:21:08+00:00

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06534956 · 2021-12-21T07:45:41+00:00

If you look at it solely from carefully chosen statistics, then sure, there is no hope.

You get to choose your struggle and also what you have to offer. You get to choose how big your pool of options are.

If you decide that you are ugly, uninteresting, broke, and mean… and you want a good virgin girl who is a 10, comes with money, and will give you abundant sex without any of the bad shit that comes with relationships… you will be alone, until she comes along.

Unrealistic expectations go both ways. The truth is, you will pick the best one out of who is available. It may be an escort, if that’s all that you decide is available.

poppy_blu · 2021-12-21T10:59:35+00:00

The mistake you’re making is thinking these guys in the aggregate are average. They are not, no matter how much they tell themselves they are.

There’s plenty of hope for men who get the fuck out there and live their lives and stop being afraid of everything.

vanillapopsicle · 2021-12-21T09:08:16+00:00

Look, man, yes it is harder, but don’t let it get you down. Play the hand you’re dealt and live life to the fullest, woman or no woman.

Creation_Soul · 2021-12-21T08:22:04+00:00

if you want to get consistent casual sex, then yes, the standards for men are very high. My problem with your post is I don't get what you have against LTRs. Maybe I am just in my own bubble, but everybody around me got paired up in college or shortly after college; this "most women wait until they are 30 to settle and they end up alone or unhappy" crap is pure revenge fantasy from what I've seen around me.

When I was in college, sure, the most handsome men got more casual sex, but average guys got into committed relationships all the time. Sure, some of those relationships fail (nothing is 100% sure to work), but they didn't actually have zero success.

Neptune-Jr · 2021-12-21T08:40:04+00:00

The Red Pill rheoric is like 80% nonsense and self projection. I wouldn't be too worried.

desperateseagull · 2021-12-21T09:59:34+00:00

I swear when lever I go outside and see couples around my age, usually the man is shorter than me and I'm about average height. Could be because I'm white in a very Latino city.. anyway,, The man could be considered attractive but not in the male model way incels think of, but I also see plenty of men with women where the men aren't attractive whatsoever but the girls are. I seriously question if incels even go outside

Atlas-B-Shruggin · 2021-12-21T11:53:36+00:00

trp is about making men more than average

who told all of you "average" got you anything in life?

TardisCat2020 · 2021-12-21T07:47:58+00:00

It's a good thing that it's not inherently true then.

By this i mean that there do exist assholes of either sex. Men can be total douchebags, women can be utter bitches. Having a certain set of genitals or chromosomes doesn't mean shit.

The best way to go through life is to vet your friends, family, and lovers. If they suck, are abusive, are toxic, use you while never reciprocating, etc then confront them about it respectfully but firmly. If they don't change, drop 'em. You don't need to put up with garbage humans when there's lots of good women and men who will add to your life and you to theirs.

chingness · 2021-12-21T10:05:41+00:00

“Most men are settling to used up women”

Stay sexless. Women don’t want to date men who don’t even like women 🤣🤣 how it that so hard to understand?

Notanothrshitthrow · 2021-12-21T08:44:10+00:00

Well, good thing that a lot of it is not true then 🤷‍♂️

Educational-Cut4177 · 2021-12-21T10:35:17+00:00

Good thing they are not true

razormachine · 2021-12-21T11:57:22+00:00

There is hope for our average Joe. All women do not think in AF/BB terms, so he just has to avoid those kid of women, and if he has to chose between being BB or single he get's himself a dog and get's to enjoy hobbies with his friends.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-12-21T07:36:58+00:00

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TryLambda · 2021-12-21T08:23:03+00:00

Its 100% true brother, feminism, hypergamy and dual mating strategy has completely devastated the relationship market... look at the positives though... invest in shares related to cat food and thank god that there is no chance of divorce rape in the future!!!!

SuperSupremeKai · 2021-12-21T07:46:22+00:00

Agreed. I lost all hope at this point. Just here to keep confirming it so that I don't become a "creep" and "sexually harass" someone when I decide that it might be a good idea to approach a woman for a date or something.

michael1962-01 · 2021-12-21T08:24:20+00:00

If you are just in it for honest sex?

Flai thai or go mexico. The exchange sex against provision (money is nothing else) is as old as men and as the cost is upfront honest as it can get. They will lo$ve you for sure and treat you well as they want more of your lo$ve and know your lo$ve ends when they cannot attract your lo$ve any longer. Your leverage.

TRP teaches men to first come to the point where you can select or women chose you.

This is wise. But most want the result not the way or suffering along it.

Your position is "this game is rigged against me - i can't win - i do not play".

Every entrepreneur is entering a game rigged against him. Very very few succeed.

Why are woman chasing those?

That is the female way of thinking. Having it now - don't care how you get there.

The thing is more complicated from both sides.

Your idea of a unicorn that is sexually into you and loves you for what you are through good and bad - most couples i know are not that. They "claim" to "love" each other - but especially the women say "sex is not so neccessary" "emotional support is so more.."

(They really think that or think that her men buy into it).

As i am on the other side those women approach me even with ring on their finger covert and open even or especially in social settings even their men being my buddies or business friends.

They are the same as they have been on the surfer beach or everywhere in life.

I knew womens nature early on as i was chased since puberty. A national league athletic was my first ltr @18y - before it it was only hookups - i do not disclose a n-count (different times / culture back then). Absolute rich parents and 10 body. Libido both sides through the roof - insane times. Weirdest things. Monogamy was not her thing. I finally split after she fu$$ed my 10y older friend on my birthday party.

But this event was only the last it needed for me to see she's not wife material.

After some wild times on my side i decided for a shy production worker girl neither rich nor especially good looking or intelligent nor from a good family.

Why? I thought she'd be different from AWALT (didn't know about that term back then)

Her family was strict against commitment (he'll dump you soon - you are not his league) my family too (fool to marry poor) but i decided to go for it. Absolute good sex - but more the "not weird/conservative" type. That she already had been dropped as a sidechick from a alpha she told me before the marriage.

Some time and children later she was used to money and the time and boredom and the sex was less frequent (still good blowjobs regulary 1/2 times a week but i am use to more - a lot more passionate sex).

I was chased heavy again and i think femals have a radar for those things.

So i gave her the clear information to change, to hit the gym and such.

Did change for a short time.

Then i decided to split and go for another. It costs me a fortune - but worth every dime.

Ever experienced light switch effect? I never wanted her being poor so i gifted her (mortage free) house and cars and passive income - a own company and a multistory to live comfortably (it's only money at the end).

When i split she went with a knife at me and tried to run me over with the car.

The new one is again a young 10 natural beauty but rich too. Intelligent. Highest libido. Now ex virgin.

So - life is a journey.

Get your mission first - women are into men with successful missions. You do not have to be a rock star or public known or in the papers (but thst helps but is a curse too).

Be muscular and lift - body composition is the key - to be ripped is not so necessary. Just be fit and have a big frame and a flat tummy.

Then enjoy life.

So now to your question.

I had a business buddy who was stabbed down some years ago. 5'5" or 5'6" at max.

3 kids. E ex wife and a beauty at his side.

So - just relax and grind.

-Ivar-TheBoneless · 2021-12-21T07:37:15+00:00

No offense but sometimes I don't know why I browse the sub so much. You all just seem so young and inexperienced.

Yes it is harder for young men. Much harder then it was a 10 years ago before IG. It just seems that you all are missing the big picture. Many Women today are finding themselves single when they hit the wall. That's when the tables turn and now the men have the upper hand in dating. If you did what you were supposed to do and made something of yourself and kept yourself in shape, you are the one with the power when that day comes.

I now see plenty of single post wall women that are lonely and desperate. The men with their shit together don't want them anymore. They are going after younger women, which is why the younger guys are being pushed out because they can't compete.

Plenty of the older women still look good enough to smash too. The older guys now have plenty of opportunities for casual with them if they want it. As long as you don't have any issues with leading them on. Now everything flipped and them men act the way girls used to act where they don't really bother with the post wall chicks even though they easily can, and it's the women that are desperate the same way young men are.

Remember many of these girls are messing up bad by passing up good men and many of them will be single and lonely when things turn around.

Speaker7 · 2021-12-21T07:25:32+00:00

The world doesn't exist as a binary. It's far too simple and inelegant to just read the TRP sidebar, conclude men are fucked, and give up and die. The entire point of TRP is to understand reality as it is, accept it completely and then decide how you'd like to proceed. If it was hopeless, there wouldn't be thousand page screeds by terpers on techniques, tips, and endless theorizing about human nature. Nothing stopping you from seeing an escort, get to it.

TheRedPillRipper · 2021-12-21T09:31:46+00:00

If everything from PPD and TRP is true

The basic tenets of TRP are true. Lifting improves everything. Wealth increases options. Social skill is fundamental to success. Frame and solid boundaries crucial to healthy relationships. The only differentiation is how it’s applied.

For example one could use their wealth to build rockets. Whilst their employees die in a tornado. Or use Game; to partake in casual sex. Another could use their strength; to inflict harm. Is TRP responsible for individual choice?

average man need to put more into ~~casual sex~~

Life. To get any value out of it.

Godspeed and good luck!

old_wise_man_ · 2021-12-21T07:22:47+00:00

Dude….just dont be average. TRP tells you what you need to do to to not be average. Just use those tools. If you cant get out of average because we all have our cap, then try to go for LTR instead of hookups. If you can’t, well there are other things that you Can do and focus on.

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AbbreviationsHot1200 · 2021-12-21T09:16:27+00:00

The future for average men is sex bots and surrogates. It will take time, but both will become affordable.

The bigger question is what happens when average men choose sex bots over being the fall back plan for women.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2021-12-21T10:11:00+00:00

The key is self improvement and never settling. If you want casual sex, you can't be average. So that means you got to work on the things you can change like your physical fitness, social status, or finances. Without a vast improvement of these three things then YES, you will be limited to post wall women and single mothers.

funlightmandarin · 2021-12-21T11:14:50+00:00

You're arguing two different things here.

Average men can't participate in hook up culture or they can't have relationships, which is it?

If you're seeking to be viscerally lusted after, then 'average' won't do, sorry.

NarniaFox · 2021-12-21T12:18:50+00:00

And if it isn't and you base your long-term plans and decisions on a bunch of cherry-picked studies, will you regret that you didn't take the risks and pursued what you really wanted?

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